Oh, Doublethink! I wish my hands were like yours! My hands are cracked and bleeding from all the washing and sanitizing. I've been using lotion and other healing stuff, and even resorted to using my triple antibiotic ointment since it seems to have a petroleum jelly type of base.
A hotel we were staying at provided hand sanitiser everywhere - but it was alcohol based, so after a while I had to mime using it my hands were getting so sore.
I also get prescribed jars of goop which is I think pretty well neat petroleum jelly. I slather that on prophylacticly.
Oh, Doublethink! I wish my hands were like yours! My hands are cracked and bleeding from all the washing and sanitizing. I've been using lotion and other healing stuff, and even resorted to using my triple antibiotic ointment since it seems to have a petroleum jelly type of base.
That happened to me initially. I worked out it was because I washed my hands, and then ended up putting on alcohol gel not long afterwards when they were stripped of oils and slightly damp. I treated the cracked skin with coconut oil which was pretty effective.
For this reason I have been going with washing my hands with with my normal frequency - I.e. after using the toilet and when they are physically dirty - thoroughly drying them, and then using alcohol gel at all other times (what feels like about every five seconds).
Given the very great importance of having the vaccination, surely a brief commitment is manageable.
People who are keen and motivated, and understand the importance will get the shot however it is presented. This is insufficient for a public vaccination campaign - you also have to reach the other people. Drop-in clinics strike me as a good tool to reach a section of the population that you might otherwise not reach.
I have no problems at all with drop-in clinics. This discussion arose in the context of people finding the time and my position is that people have to find it, whether it be drop-in or appointment is irrelevant.
There is an on-line map here showing which suburbs have the highest rate of vaccination. Throughout the country its noticeable that in high socioeconomic areas double vaccination is 85% to 95%, whereas in lower socioeconomic areas it may be 35 or 4o%.Maori people and Pasifika are less likely to be vaccinated, though this is changing for Pasifika as there was a cluster of cases around a Samoan Church, which raised awareness leading to more vaccinations.
For Maori there are a variety of reasons - the average age of the Maori population is far younger than Pakeha (European ancestry) and the initial rollout prioritized older people. Also Maori are over more likely to be in the lower socioeconomic group. Apart from the average younger age of the population I think that hesitancy amongst Maori is related to the effects of colonisation. Various Maori Trusts and Health groups are responding to this by holding vaccination Clinics on in places where Maori people congregate., and there are a couple of vaccination buses (Shot Bro and Shot Cus going to homeless shelters and place like the City Mission vaccinating people. There will also be many local responses that I haven't heard about because they are smaller scale and outside my area.
Thanks, Firenze and Doublethink! My scattered brain forgot those handy things! I'll add the vinyl gloves to my shopping list; at least doing dishes won't add to the problem that way. I think the problem is the number of times I wash my hands. The normal washings (after powdering my nose, before handling food) that I've always done has doubled or tripled. Now when I come home, or touch the mail, or shake hands (!) with someone, washing happens as soon as possible. Living in air conditioning probably adds to the dryness of the skin, too.
Now when I come home, or touch the mail, or shake hands (!) with someone, washing happens as soon as possible.
Yeah that’s where I have subbed hand gel for hand wash. But I think it is the rapid switching between the two that is the biggest skin issue. (Also, I don’t shake hands and use a germ hook/key where possible.)
I see, it goes on a key chain. We were given loose ones, and really, who's going to go to the trouble to tote one of those in a pocket, or for way too many of us pocketless women, in one's hand?
I went to the main indoor church service today. First visit inside a church since way back when. Masks all around, and fans blowing through open doors. I felt quite comfortable. It was so nice to hear the choir sing after these many months. The only draw back was although those using a mike at the lectern were easy for me to hear, the priest had a head mike and I found I missed much of her sermon. The rest of the service was printed out, and I also knew most of it by heart, so it was not a problem. I am down to one hearing aid having lost one somewhere taking my mask off and on. I need to scrape up some money before having it replaced. I have been looking into less expensive ones.
I am terrified of that happening, which is why I am in a minority here and wear my mask from just before I get on the bus going to town until I get off it on my way home. (masks are compulsory on buses, and inside, but not outside.)
A retired minister who occasionally leads worship for us has had to get masks that have elastic around the back of the head rather than the loops over ears variety - as he put it, with glasses to see and hearing aids to hear, his ears were already over loaded without putting a mask on them as well.
A retired minister who occasionally leads worship for us has had to get masks that have elastic around the back of the head rather than the loops over ears variety - as he put it, with glasses to see and hearing aids to hear, his ears were already over loaded without putting a mask on them as well.
I threaded mine that way early on when I heard how much trouble folk were having with the over-ear ones.
I've tried ones that go around the back of my head, but I find them even more difficult. At least with the over ear ones I can pop into some toilets and use the mirrors to check what is going on,
I'm happy to report that all my clients have had their Day 13 tests and remain negative for Covid. It looks like all the protections we have in place worked, including prayers. The two staff who worked with the infected person have also had their Day 13 tests come back negative, and were both at work with me on my sleepover shift. I took my test this morning, so that I wouldn't have to isolate and miss work yesterday.
We have pulse oximeters. She woke up after a bit of a nap and had a pulse rate of 142. A lot higher than her normal rate of mid 80s. It then went up to 156.
When the excellent ambulance crew ( They are all excellent) turned up fairly quickly it did not settle down so they took her in. They initally thought of drastic treatment like stopping her heart for a few seconds but it settled down before they needed to. She is refered to the
arrhythmia clinic.
She's back to normal but neither of use enjoy good health.
Good to hear that your wife is back to normal Telford. I hope the arrhythmia clinic can prevent it happening again.
Tomorrow is Vaccithon Day in NZ (a marathon of vaccinations). The government has a target of 90% of people over 12. The idea is one big happy party interspersed with jabs. I hope it is effective, but I'm glad I've already had both of mine because it sounds like an introverts nightmare 🙄. Young people who have been vaccine hesitant are expected to come forward because with summer and music festival time approaching many organisers have announced that only vaccinated people will be able to attend. Also teachers must be vaccinated by December 1st or they won't have a job next year. Workers in care homes have a similar rule. One chain of homes has stated visitors will not be allowed unless they are double vaccinated.
I just hope the High School where I n going to see a Quilt Exhibition is not a vaccination centre.
In marked contrast to all previous appointments- which were in-and-out in minutes - the vaccination hub was very busy. Also Friday pm traffic on the bypass, so with that and 1 hour wait, it was 3 hours door to door.
Eating out this evening- I can see some serious pint-murdering beforehand.
A close friend, who grew up in communist eastern Europe and who is very right wing and suspicious of 'the state', has refused vaccination and is now in hospital on oxygen. What a mess. He is a Christian and would appreciate your prayers.
Elderly couple at church. Both have tested positive, both are very not well, both are double vaccinated, both have been remarkably careful over eighteen months or so, at considerable cost to mental health in one of the two.
I was talking about this to my students/co-workers. The anti-vax for no good medical reason two decided this was excellent proof why they shouldn't get vaccinated.
I feel increasingly frustrated by the rubbish approach to ventilation/filtration in the UK. I would happily, for example, wear a mask and go into businesses that had CO2 monitors which showed their ventilation is safe. But the governments aren't doing much, if anything, to make that kind of safety precaution happen.
The result is I get attacked as going too far by older family members when I bring up the importance of ventilation indoors because they're not properly getting that message from the government/health service
As Japes' post shows, Covid is still dangerous to older double vaccinated people but I can't get my folks to take basic precautions against an airborne virus because they're only hearing it from me and not from official sources.
The problem, from the Government's point of view, is that if they start making noises about ventilation, they might get asked to provide funding to enable this.
I know that tickets are not selling that well to events as there's a lot of wariness from the vulnerable to returning to halls with variable ventilation and safety. And then around me, although, according to the Zoe study, rates are shooting up again and Guide sessions attendance is low as several girls are always missing as testing positive, most people seem to think it's all over and I'm stupid to still be wearing a mask in shops and on public transport (where masks are required).
Ventilation is very important, more so than the earlier nonsense of some people washing their groceries or quarantining them for days before use.
I belong to three choirs, each one taking a different approach. All practise an element of social distancing, some greater than others. All sing without masks( worn on arrival until seated). Other choirs I know sing masked.
Church choir is in a lofty building, doors open for services, and singers a long way from congregation.
Auditioned choir - large hall, 2m apart, very well ventilated ( coats needed).
Community choir, small school hall, some windows open but not doors. Sitting 1m apart. I am less happy with this.
We have a Big Service at Our Place tomorrow - Baptism, Confirmation, Patronal Festival Mass, and the blessing of areas of the grounds to be used for the interment of ashes. Our Flying Bishop is to preside and preach.
We only have a few windows that can be opened, and both doors (one in the north wall of the nave, the other in the south wall) are protected by porches, so there's not much chance of a free flow of air unless it's blowing a hoolie outside!
It may not be possible to maintain social distancing tomorrow, and, as I don't personally feel able to cope with a large number of people around, especially as masks are now optional, I've decided not to attend.
What upsets me is that we know how to make places safe and we're not doing it. Other half had to pop along to the chemists to get a prescription, and for curiosity took the CO2 monitor with him. It was way over safe levels and a pharmacy is somewhere people who are sick are likely to go - not just Covid but flu gets spread this way by inhalation. Spain and Belgium have made CO2 monitors compulsory in a lot of places but over here we expect people to guess about ventilation and take risks.
According to a slip of paper I got in my letterbox yesterday I am going to die in 3 years time. It was put there by someone belonging to The White Rose, an anti-vaccination group who are probably upset about the increased number of Covid vaccines in NZ - we are aiming for at over 90%.
I'm a bit upset because I heard somewhere else it was 4 years. I'm being robbed!
At least this gives me gives me almost enough time to clean the house. 💀
My mate who refused vaccination was looking like he had a lot less than three years. Now...it may be that things are looking up, thank God, but still on oxygen and for some of the time, sedated.
My mate who refused vaccination was looking like he had a lot less than three years. Now...it may be that things are looking up, thank God, but still on oxygen and for some of the time, sedated.
Well tomorrow after 18 months I am braving a haircut. 82 is I admit a bit old for a pony tail, but what was a women to do? New hairdresser in a new town so I do not know what to expect. Mask? No Mask? Vaccination or one who does not believe in them. Doors open or closed? A lot of people waiting or only a few. Yes I am nervous.
I go to a little local place where it's -
Don't come in until staff invite you
Keep mask on even during haircut
Staff wear face shields
They also used to use a temperature detector, but have dropped that now. Their clientele tends to the mature end, so there's probably quite a high vaccination take up.
If you roll up and don't feel comfortable with the level of precautions you can cancel (after all, time was hair in a bun would have been Expected).
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A hotel we were staying at provided hand sanitiser everywhere - but it was alcohol based, so after a while I had to mime using it my hands were getting so sore.
I also get prescribed jars of goop which is I think pretty well neat petroleum jelly. I slather that on prophylacticly.
For me it’s for when I can’t wash my hands.
That happened to me initially. I worked out it was because I washed my hands, and then ended up putting on alcohol gel not long afterwards when they were stripped of oils and slightly damp. I treated the cracked skin with coconut oil which was pretty effective.
For this reason I have been going with washing my hands with with my normal frequency - I.e. after using the toilet and when they are physically dirty - thoroughly drying them, and then using alcohol gel at all other times (what feels like about every five seconds).
(Also disposable gloves when necessary.)
People who are keen and motivated, and understand the importance will get the shot however it is presented. This is insufficient for a public vaccination campaign - you also have to reach the other people. Drop-in clinics strike me as a good tool to reach a section of the population that you might otherwise not reach.
For Maori there are a variety of reasons - the average age of the Maori population is far younger than Pakeha (European ancestry) and the initial rollout prioritized older people. Also Maori are over more likely to be in the lower socioeconomic group. Apart from the average younger age of the population I think that hesitancy amongst Maori is related to the effects of colonisation. Various Maori Trusts and Health groups are responding to this by holding vaccination Clinics on in places where Maori people congregate., and there are a couple of vaccination buses (Shot Bro and Shot Cus going to homeless shelters and place like the City Mission vaccinating people. There will also be many local responses that I haven't heard about because they are smaller scale and outside my area.
Yeah that’s where I have subbed hand gel for hand wash. But I think it is the rapid switching between the two that is the biggest skin issue. (Also, I don’t shake hands and use a germ hook/key where possible.)
I just use a corner of my blouse or sweater.
I am terrified of that happening, which is why I am in a minority here and wear my mask from just before I get on the bus going to town until I get off it on my way home. (masks are compulsory on buses, and inside, but not outside.)
I threaded mine that way early on when I heard how much trouble folk were having with the over-ear ones.
Some hours later I collected her from a crowded A&E waiting area, probably the most dangerous place in the city,
Last week we had flu jabs. Yesterday we had booster jabs
I hope she's ok.
Thanks for you kind comments
We have pulse oximeters. She woke up after a bit of a nap and had a pulse rate of 142. A lot higher than her normal rate of mid 80s. It then went up to 156.
When the excellent ambulance crew ( They are all excellent) turned up fairly quickly it did not settle down so they took her in. They initally thought of drastic treatment like stopping her heart for a few seconds but it settled down before they needed to. She is refered to the
arrhythmia clinic.
She's back to normal but neither of use enjoy good health.
Tomorrow is Vaccithon Day in NZ (a marathon of vaccinations). The government has a target of 90% of people over 12. The idea is one big happy party interspersed with jabs. I hope it is effective, but I'm glad I've already had both of mine because it sounds like an introverts nightmare 🙄. Young people who have been vaccine hesitant are expected to come forward because with summer and music festival time approaching many organisers have announced that only vaccinated people will be able to attend. Also teachers must be vaccinated by December 1st or they won't have a job next year. Workers in care homes have a similar rule. One chain of homes has stated visitors will not be allowed unless they are double vaccinated.
I just hope the High School where I n going to see a Quilt Exhibition is not a vaccination centre.
Eating out this evening- I can see some serious pint-murdering beforehand.
I was talking about this to my students/co-workers. The anti-vax for no good medical reason two decided this was excellent proof why they shouldn't get vaccinated.
Me, I was uncharacteristically speechless.
I have been praying a lot this week...
The result is I get attacked as going too far by older family members when I bring up the importance of ventilation indoors because they're not properly getting that message from the government/health service
As Japes' post shows, Covid is still dangerous to older double vaccinated people but I can't get my folks to take basic precautions against an airborne virus because they're only hearing it from me and not from official sources.
I know that tickets are not selling that well to events as there's a lot of wariness from the vulnerable to returning to halls with variable ventilation and safety. And then around me, although, according to the Zoe study, rates are shooting up again and Guide sessions attendance is low as several girls are always missing as testing positive, most people seem to think it's all over and I'm stupid to still be wearing a mask in shops and on public transport (where masks are required).
I belong to three choirs, each one taking a different approach. All practise an element of social distancing, some greater than others. All sing without masks( worn on arrival until seated). Other choirs I know sing masked.
Church choir is in a lofty building, doors open for services, and singers a long way from congregation.
Auditioned choir - large hall, 2m apart, very well ventilated ( coats needed).
Community choir, small school hall, some windows open but not doors. Sitting 1m apart. I am less happy with this.
We only have a few windows that can be opened, and both doors (one in the north wall of the nave, the other in the south wall) are protected by porches, so there's not much chance of a free flow of air unless it's blowing a hoolie outside!
It may not be possible to maintain social distancing tomorrow, and, as I don't personally feel able to cope with a large number of people around, especially as masks are now optional, I've decided not to attend.
Interestingly the consulting rooms for dr s and nurses Do have their windows open.
Mercifully I won’t need to go back for Ages.
But mixed messages?
For sure.
Does he have wings that could be flapped to improve the flow of air, or does he merely levitate after the manner of St Joseph of Cupertino.
I'm a bit upset because I heard somewhere else it was 4 years. I'm being robbed!
At least this gives me gives me almost enough time to clean the house. 💀
It would fit the kind of imagery they use to describe vaccine mandates, wouldn't it?
Good!
Don't come in until staff invite you
Keep mask on even during haircut
Staff wear face shields
They also used to use a temperature detector, but have dropped that now. Their clientele tends to the mature end, so there's probably quite a high vaccination take up.
If you roll up and don't feel comfortable with the level of precautions you can cancel (after all, time was hair in a bun would have been Expected).