I could be in trouble in that case - I had one jag in each arm, and my natural instinct is to sleep either on my back or my right side. For some reason I can't lie on my left side - I get a stitch in my side if I do - so I'll have to try and remember to stay on my back.
I hope my neighbours are heavy sleepers, as I understand I snore something awful ...
It appears that a lot of vaccination or test centres seem to be located at places that are a right pain to get to. They need to be close enough for people to walk or cycle to, or a short bus trip, certainly not where the only realistic option is a half hour drive. Most High Streets have plenty of empty space, and should still be reasonably accessible by public transport. Why aren't these spaces used?
Though, in my case a council sports hall was used, just a few minutes walk from my home - but, for most of the town it wouldn't have been that convenient as it's only on one bus route (with one service per hour) - with "on" being the bus passes down the main road, with entrance to the venue a walk up a side street. They've now moved to a town centre location across the road from the bus station - much better (even if it's now a few minutes more walk for me when I get my call for jag number 3 in the New Year).
It struck me at the time that it said a lot for people's determination to get vaccinated that so many made it to Ingliston - given the cohort being called at that point was the over 70s. There was even a wheelchair user in our queue.
It struck me at the time that it said a lot for people's determination to get vaccinated that so many made it to Ingliston - given the cohort being called at that point was the over 70s. There was even a wheelchair user in our queue.
Depending on the wheelchair user they may actually have the advantage when queuing.
Indeed @Arethosemyfeet , I was just waiting to be landed into a wheelchair myself!
( that moment when, with one practised movement, I would have been simultaneously slightly encouraged backwards whilst the wheelchair gently touched behind my knees)
It struck me at the time that it said a lot for people's determination to get vaccinated that so many made it to Ingliston - given the cohort being called at that point was the over 70s. There was even a wheelchair user in our queue.
Depending on the wheelchair user they may actually have the advantage when queuing.
Not particularly. We were all seated. One of the marshals moved him forward in sync with the advance down the rows of chairs.
I went online to book my booster today, only to find that all the venues with disabled parking are either miles away (in Essex!) or else in shops in our local shopping malls which I know are a long way from any parking space.
I haven't yet had the official invitation (the 6 months + 1 week is up on 19th November), but I'm hoping I'll be able to have both the booster and the flu jab at my local GP.
I fully intend to have the flu jab, as I do every year when it becomes available, but would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
BTW, could someone please tell me the length of a piece of string?
Hope you are feeling OK today @piglet.
I hope your GP can do the booster at the same time as the flu jab @Bishops Finger . You'd think it would be possible.
Hope you are feeling OK today @piglet.
I hope your GP can do the booster at the same time as the flu jab @Bishops Finger . You'd think it would be possible.
Yes - if I don't hear from them soon, I'll give them a call. Luckily, they're only just up the hill from Arkland, and it's very easy to park close by..
I don't usually suffer any ill-effects from the flu jab (said he, hopefully), but even two sore arms won't be all that inhibiting, given my rather sedentary lifestyle these days...
At the risk of inviting criticism, I am not inclined to have the flu jab. I have never had one. I think I picked up so much immunity as a teacher, exposed to all sorts of germs.
I presume that is why I did not get an invitation from my GP this year, having not taken up the opportunity in previous years. They had two dates for flu vaccinations, I gather, which have now passed. The local Boots have run out of vaccine.
My thinking is that given the precautions I and others are taking for Covid, I am at low risk of encountering flu bugs. I understand that the flu vaccines are much less well tuned than Covid vaccines, so the rate of success is lower.
I am open to persuasion, however. I did not hesitate to get the Covid jabs.
I didn't get flu jabs either (same sort of rationale) until the year I got flu. Because Mr F was on heavy chemo at the time, he was whipped into hospital even though he had mild symptoms. Whereas I was home alone and sick as a cat.
At the risk of inviting criticism, I am not inclined to have the flu jab. I have never had one. I think I picked up so much immunity as a teacher, exposed to all sorts of germs.
I presume that is why I did not get an invitation from my GP this year, having not taken up the opportunity in previous years. They had two dates for flu vaccinations, I gather, which have now passed. The local Boots have run out of vaccine.
My thinking is that given the precautions I and others are taking for Covid, I am at low risk of encountering flu bugs. I understand that the flu vaccines are much less well tuned than Covid vaccines, so the rate of success is lower.
I am open to persuasion, however. I did not hesitate to get the Covid jabs.
I'll be getting one for the first time this year, as they're being offered to all teachers. My understanding with 'flu is that immunity from past encounters may help but not much as influenza mutates to quickly, so I wouldn't place much faith in that as protection. I say get the jab, it can't cause significant harm and means you're less likely to be hit by a double-whammy of 'flu and covid together, which is really dangerous.
The thing I've always been told about the flu vaccine is that if you consistently get it, you're more likely to be protected. The vaccine is a mix of the most expected strands of flu for the coming year, but previous years' mixes will also help in protecting you.
I qualify for the flu vaccine as an asthmatic and have done since I was diagnosed with asthma as an adult. I haven't been getting the flu jab as when I did I started reacting when I got a shot, and each time there was a bit more of a reaction. As that's my usual pattern for becoming really allergic to something (wasp stings, insect bites, various creams and lotions) I stopped because I didn't fancy a really special reaction that resulted in a hospital visit (wasps, I'm looking at you). Before anyone tells me, I am well aware the allergic reaction has absolutely nothing to do with feeling slightly coldy or having a fever. I really was having an allergic reaction to the flu jab - a lump at the site of the reaction that last time persisted for months and was bigger than the previous lump.
I'm in two minds as to whether I try to get a jab or not, as I don't fancy a flu jab at a pharmacy, and that looks to be my option this year, because if I react really badly it will be a very public excitement.
BF, I know it isn't really close to you but Swanley St Mary's Church Hall was reserving its car park for disabled. Nothing was shown about that on the web site. It might be worth phoning?
BF, I know it isn't really close to you but Swanley St Mary's Church Hall was reserving its car park for disabled. Nothing was shown about that on the web site. It might be worth phoning?
Thanks @Penny S - certainly an option if there's nothing more local.
This is the first time I've had the flu jag - friends in Canada always encouraged us to have it, but we never did. I've only had what I think was proper flu twice, but I'm happy to take precautions against having it again.
I seem to have even less reaction (so far) than I had after the first two Covid jags; apart from a very slight stiffness in my arms, I feel fine. I think I'll have another early-ish night tonight, as despite falling asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow last night, I woke at around three in the morning and did rather more tossing and turning than I'd have liked before dozing off again.
(The last time I had flu we had to get friends in to help me. Being helped to the loo at the grand age of forty something ensured that I was Always going to get a flu jab if /when it was offered me. Horrible)
I went online to book my booster today, only to find that all the venues with disabled parking are either miles away (in Essex!) ...would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
Hey, I grew up in Essex (well, L.B.H.). It's not _that_ bad
I'd get the booster - but then I have a close friend 2 weeks into sedation on a ventilator, prev. healthy, mid 40s, un-vacc.
I fully intend to have the flu jab, as I do every year when it becomes available, but would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
BTW, could someone please tell me the length of a piece of string?
We had our first covid jabs, and in the period between then and the second, we had our usual flu ones. That gave no problems but can I suggest that it really is a question for your GP. We're booked in to have the booster in a few weeks.
I had a sore spot on my arm yesterday from the Pfizer booster so had to sleep differently. but woke with it just a dull ache.
Despite the friend, the rabbit hole one, expressing her concern about 99% graphene oxide - which I would imagine making it almost all solid black - because of something she has been told under an NDA. As far as I can see, one experiment which has not been reproduced identified this, and then people cherry picked* information derived from very large doses being given to beings as large as mice and chicken embryos, which showed toxicity.
*The cherries concerned being like the ones in our local cherry farm which has been infected with bugs so that myriads of maggots emerge through the skin as one considers eating them.
I had a sore spot on my arm yesterday from the Pfizer booster so had to sleep differently. but woke with it just a dull ache.
Despite the friend, the rabbit hole one, expressing her concern about 99% graphene oxide - which I would imagine making it almost all solid black
Not to mention in the form in thin sheets. Where do they get this crap from?
"WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TRAVIS SCOTT CONCERT?" one Facebook post begins. "They’re practicing!! Once they put graphene oxide in you, all they have to do is TUNE THE FREQUENCY!!
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"They will turn people into zombies, literally … As others have said, this is a test run on the vaxxed,"
Additional tidbit - none of the vaccines actually contain graphene oxide. They hardly could, really.
SMH
The question I would like to get to the bottom of is who makes this bullshit up? and why do they do it?
I went online to book my booster today, only to find that all the venues with disabled parking are either miles away (in Essex!) ...would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
Hey, I grew up in Essex (well, L.B.H.). It's not _that_ bad
I'd get the booster - but then I have a close friend 2 weeks into sedation on a ventilator, prev. healthy, mid 40s, un-vacc.
O, I have no objection whatever to Essex per se - it's the Dartford Tunnel/Bridge that put me off...
I spent a lot of time reading up on GO yesterday. The purveyors of unscience get it all over the place - have a look. And the sheets, once oxidised, are not nice and smooth and flat, but distorted, and then broken up into flakes.
Once started off, this sort of idea becomes self-spreading as the readers "do their own research" and pick up anything that reinforces the initial seed. I would like very much to know who does start it. My friend thinks psychological warfare departments might be interested.
It is true that they have been considered as ways of delivering drugs in certain circumstances, particularly to tumours, because of the way thay can be ingested by macrophages. But 99%?
There's an exhaustive list of the contents, and a major discrepancy wuld have the FDA etc screaming blue murder, Pfizer stocks dropping in value to 0, and legal cases filling the courts for decades.*
The cherry picking is interesting. But the body seems to be quite good at getting rid of it. even if you are a mouse or a chicken embryo in shell.
Can I poison myself by ingesting the powder in my graphite spray for lubricating locks?
*I'm not sure about 1,2 Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
Distearoylphosphatidylcholine (DSPC) is a zwitterionic phospholipid that is used in the preparation of liposomes for transfection and drug delivery applications. DSPC functions to enhance encapsulation efficiency and liposome stability which enables greater effectiveness in bioprocessing.
and found naturally in the lungs. (Our cell membranes are phospholipids, it's how they work.)
I spent a lot of time reading up on GO yesterday. The purveyors of unscience get it all over the place - have a look. And the sheets, once oxidised, are not nice and smooth and flat, but distorted, and then broken up into flakes.
Once started off, this sort of idea becomes self-spreading as the readers "do their own research" and pick up anything that reinforces the initial seed. I would like very much to know who does start it. My friend thinks psychological warfare departments might be interested.
It is true that they have been considered as ways of delivering drugs in certain circumstances, particularly to tumours, because of the way thay can be ingested by macrophages. But 99%?
There's an exhaustive list of the contents, and a major discrepancy wuld have the FDA etc screaming blue murder, Pfizer stocks dropping in value to 0, and legal cases filling the courts for decades.*
The cherry picking is interesting. But the body seems to be quite good at getting rid of it. even if you are a mouse or a chicken embryo in shell.
Can I poison myself by ingesting the powder in my graphite spray for lubricating locks?
*I'm not sure about 1,2 Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
Graphite isn't graphene. I can't imagine how you can oxidise Graphene oxide when it's already - well, an oxide.
Distearoylphosphatidylcholine (DSPC) is a zwitterionic phospholipid that is used in the preparation of liposomes for transfection and drug delivery applications. DSPC functions to enhance encapsulation efficiency and liposome stability which enables greater effectiveness in bioprocessing.
and found naturally in the lungs. (Our cell membranes are phospholipids, it's how they work.)
That reminds me of the letters sent to my GP by King's College Hospital, and copied to me. If it weren't for Professor Google, I'd have no idea at all what's wrong (or right, if anything) with my brain...
There is a suggestion that there can be small traces of graphene in, for example, pencils. Graphene oxide is also known, quite respectably, as graphite oxide. No idea why. I've seen a diagram. In a proper paper.
It was the choline I was concerned about. I've searched too, and the whole chemical sounds just fine. I've obviously got loads of it. I was sure I had come across choline as active on nerves.
I went online to book my booster today, only to find that all the venues with disabled parking are either miles away (in Essex!) ...would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
Hey, I grew up in Essex (well, L.B.H.). It's not _that_ bad
I'd get the booster - but then I have a close friend 2 weeks into sedation on a ventilator, prev. healthy, mid 40s, un-vacc.
O, I have no objection whatever to Essex per se - it's the Dartford Tunnel/Bridge that put me off...
Ah. My Mum and Dad went on an accidental trip to Kent lately, after an exciting time at Lakeside. Don't forget (as they did) to do all the faffing online with the Dart-Charge, if you go.
@Lamb Chopped - I'm so sorry to hear about your colleague. If you're able to tell me more (perhaps by PM) I would appreciate it. I am trying to get prepared for what might happen to my friend, and his family - there are a lot of variables in this position.
The Dartford Crossing, by whichever method, is certainly a trial more often than not. Unfortunately we live one one side of the Thames Estuary and our youngest son lives almost directly opposite. I've often thought that a boat/canoe/sailboard would make for a quicker journey to visit each other - if only it wasn't for those massive container ships that go up and down the channel! When I was a child there were regular paddle steamer trips across from Southend pier to Herne Bay - no longer alas.
The Dartford Crossing, by whichever method, is certainly a trial more often than not. Unfortunately we live one one side of the Thames Estuary and our youngest son lives almost directly opposite. I've often thought that a boat/canoe/sailboard would make for a quicker journey to visit each other - if only it wasn't for those massive container ships that go up and down the channel! When I was a child there were regular paddle steamer trips across from Southend pier to Herne Bay - no longer alas.
Flag signals (with a telescope or binoculars perhaps) sound the ideal method of keeping in touch. Perfectly covid safe
Good idea Gee D - I'd have to brush up on my semaphore though. I learnt it in the Girl Guides but was only confident with the letters A to G (using two hands seemed so complicated)! I could message CABBAGE across the river I suppose . . . .
You need to remember that in post-Brexit Britain we need to rejoice that we can have cabbage, because there'll be little else on the supermarket shelves (at least that those who don't have the salary of an MP plus one or more of their consultancies could afford).
You need to remember that in post-Brexit Britain we need to rejoice that we can have cabbage, because there'll be little else on the supermarket shelves (at least that those who don't have the salary of an MP plus one or more of their consultancies could afford).
If we could harness the resultant, er, flatulence perhaps we could employ it for energy.
Mr Nen and I booked our Covid boosters at the nearest centre (a drive away) as soon as we could, only to be contacted the following day by our local health centre (a short walk away) inviting us to make appointments there. We've had our flu jabs with no side effects (how did you get on, @Boogie ?) but I'm slightly apprehensive about the Covid booster as I've heard a few people who've felt rough the following day and our current appointments are on a week when we have several other things going on. So do I see what appointments the health centre has to offer? Such decisions... and grateful to have the opportunity to have it at all, let alone make choices.
If you drive east of BF, you eventually arrive at Thanet, and when you do you will know, because of the brassica smell.
The protoplant would be seakale. This requires very long boiling, and then throwing away.
Seakale sounds even worse than ordinary kale, which I have only encountered in the last 5 years and could have happily lived my life in blissful ignorance if I hadn't.
Had my booster today. Unlike the previous two, it hurt! My choir has a short (4 song) concert tomorrow before the local Christmas lights switch on so I’m hoping for no side effects.
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I hope my neighbours are heavy sleepers, as I understand I snore something awful ...
Though, in my case a council sports hall was used, just a few minutes walk from my home - but, for most of the town it wouldn't have been that convenient as it's only on one bus route (with one service per hour) - with "on" being the bus passes down the main road, with entrance to the venue a walk up a side street. They've now moved to a town centre location across the road from the bus station - much better (even if it's now a few minutes more walk for me when I get my call for jag number 3 in the New Year).
Depending on the wheelchair user they may actually have the advantage when queuing.
( that moment when, with one practised movement, I would have been simultaneously slightly encouraged backwards whilst the wheelchair gently touched behind my knees)
Not particularly. We were all seated. One of the marshals moved him forward in sync with the advance down the rows of chairs.
I haven't yet had the official invitation (the 6 months + 1 week is up on 19th November), but I'm hoping I'll be able to have both the booster and the flu jab at my local GP.
I fully intend to have the flu jab, as I do every year when it becomes available, but would it be terribly foolish and short-sighted of me to forgo the Covid booster, if it really is too difficult to arrange?
BTW, could someone please tell me the length of a piece of string?
I hope your GP can do the booster at the same time as the flu jab @Bishops Finger . You'd think it would be possible.
Yes - if I don't hear from them soon, I'll give them a call. Luckily, they're only just up the hill from Arkland, and it's very easy to park close by..
I don't usually suffer any ill-effects from the flu jab (said he, hopefully), but even two sore arms won't be all that inhibiting, given my rather sedentary lifestyle these days...
I presume that is why I did not get an invitation from my GP this year, having not taken up the opportunity in previous years. They had two dates for flu vaccinations, I gather, which have now passed. The local Boots have run out of vaccine.
My thinking is that given the precautions I and others are taking for Covid, I am at low risk of encountering flu bugs. I understand that the flu vaccines are much less well tuned than Covid vaccines, so the rate of success is lower.
I am open to persuasion, however. I did not hesitate to get the Covid jabs.
Also my SiL died of flu, aged 55.
I'll be getting one for the first time this year, as they're being offered to all teachers. My understanding with 'flu is that immunity from past encounters may help but not much as influenza mutates to quickly, so I wouldn't place much faith in that as protection. I say get the jab, it can't cause significant harm and means you're less likely to be hit by a double-whammy of 'flu and covid together, which is really dangerous.
I qualify for the flu vaccine as an asthmatic and have done since I was diagnosed with asthma as an adult. I haven't been getting the flu jab as when I did I started reacting when I got a shot, and each time there was a bit more of a reaction. As that's my usual pattern for becoming really allergic to something (wasp stings, insect bites, various creams and lotions) I stopped because I didn't fancy a really special reaction that resulted in a hospital visit (wasps, I'm looking at you). Before anyone tells me, I am well aware the allergic reaction has absolutely nothing to do with feeling slightly coldy or having a fever. I really was having an allergic reaction to the flu jab - a lump at the site of the reaction that last time persisted for months and was bigger than the previous lump.
I'm in two minds as to whether I try to get a jab or not, as I don't fancy a flu jab at a pharmacy, and that looks to be my option this year, because if I react really badly it will be a very public excitement.
Thanks @Penny S - certainly an option if there's nothing more local.
I seem to have even less reaction (so far) than I had after the first two Covid jags; apart from a very slight stiffness in my arms, I feel fine. I think I'll have another early-ish night tonight, as despite falling asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow last night, I woke at around three in the morning and did rather more tossing and turning than I'd have liked before dozing off again.
Hey, I grew up in Essex (well, L.B.H.). It's not _that_ bad
I'd get the booster - but then I have a close friend 2 weeks into sedation on a ventilator, prev. healthy, mid 40s, un-vacc.
We had our first covid jabs, and in the period between then and the second, we had our usual flu ones. That gave no problems but can I suggest that it really is a question for your GP. We're booked in to have the booster in a few weeks.
Despite the friend, the rabbit hole one, expressing her concern about 99% graphene oxide - which I would imagine making it almost all solid black - because of something she has been told under an NDA. As far as I can see, one experiment which has not been reproduced identified this, and then people cherry picked* information derived from very large doses being given to beings as large as mice and chicken embryos, which showed toxicity.
*The cherries concerned being like the ones in our local cherry farm which has been infected with bugs so that myriads of maggots emerge through the skin as one considers eating them.
Not to mention in the form in thin sheets. Where do they get this crap from?
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/politifact/article/fact-check-astroworld-covid-vaccine-graphene-oxide-16605090.php
Additional tidbit - none of the vaccines actually contain graphene oxide. They hardly could, really.
SMH
The question I would like to get to the bottom of is who makes this bullshit up? and why do they do it?
My booster is on the 16th. My friend, who works at a centre giving Covid jabs, had a really bad reaction to the booster. She’s fine now.
So I’ve planned nothing for each day or the day after. Not that I’m doing much anyway. 🙄
O, I have no objection whatever to Essex per se - it's the Dartford Tunnel/Bridge that put me off...
Once started off, this sort of idea becomes self-spreading as the readers "do their own research" and pick up anything that reinforces the initial seed. I would like very much to know who does start it. My friend thinks psychological warfare departments might be interested.
It is true that they have been considered as ways of delivering drugs in certain circumstances, particularly to tumours, because of the way thay can be ingested by macrophages. But 99%?
There's an exhaustive list of the contents, and a major discrepancy wuld have the FDA etc screaming blue murder, Pfizer stocks dropping in value to 0, and legal cases filling the courts for decades.*
The cherry picking is interesting. But the body seems to be quite good at getting rid of it. even if you are a mouse or a chicken embryo in shell.
Can I poison myself by ingesting the powder in my graphite spray for lubricating locks?
*I'm not sure about 1,2 Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
Graphite isn't graphene. I can't imagine how you can oxidise Graphene oxide when it's already - well, an oxide.
That reminds me of the letters sent to my GP by King's College Hospital, and copied to me. If it weren't for Professor Google, I'd have no idea at all what's wrong (or right, if anything) with my brain...
It was the choline I was concerned about. I've searched too, and the whole chemical sounds just fine. I've obviously got loads of it. I was sure I had come across choline as active on nerves.
Ah. My Mum and Dad went on an accidental trip to Kent lately, after an exciting time at Lakeside. Don't forget (as they did) to do all the faffing online with the Dart-Charge, if you go.
@Lamb Chopped - I'm so sorry to hear about your colleague. If you're able to tell me more (perhaps by PM) I would appreciate it. I am trying to get prepared for what might happen to my friend, and his family - there are a lot of variables in this position.
Flag signals (with a telescope or binoculars perhaps) sound the ideal method of keeping in touch. Perfectly covid safe
Nowt wrong wi' cabbage. And it's damned hard to make coleslaw without it.
I thought cabbage (and sprouts and cauliflower) were all selectively bred from the same, presumably nausea-inducing, proto-plant?
You say that like that's a problem.
If I lived in a world without coleslaw, my life would be improved. You can keep the kimchi while you're at it.
Southend must have been bad if it made you want to go to Hernia Bay!
Mr Nen and I booked our Covid boosters at the nearest centre (a drive away) as soon as we could, only to be contacted the following day by our local health centre (a short walk away) inviting us to make appointments there. We've had our flu jabs with no side effects (how did you get on, @Boogie ?) but I'm slightly apprehensive about the Covid booster as I've heard a few people who've felt rough the following day and our current appointments are on a week when we have several other things going on. So do I see what appointments the health centre has to offer? Such decisions... and grateful to have the opportunity to have it at all, let alone make choices.
The protoplant would be seakale. This requires very long boiling, and then throwing away.