Today I Consign To Hell -the All Saints version

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  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I should add - the internet is full of advice to "find the sport that's right for you". There is no reason why there should be a "right" sport for everyone, and indeed I do not believe there is. Certainly I've stopped looking.

    When asked what team I support and reply that I don’t like football, the response is usually “so what sport do you like?”
  • Spike wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I should add - the internet is full of advice to "find the sport that's right for you". There is no reason why there should be a "right" sport for everyone, and indeed I do not believe there is. Certainly I've stopped looking.

    When asked what team I support and reply that I don’t like football, the response is usually “so what sport do you like?”

    Heh. That's the thing though isn't it - they're only talking about watching a sport. There's people out there thinking that there is/should be a sport for everyone to participate in. For many people, there isn't even they want to even watch.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Spike wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I should add - the internet is full of advice to "find the sport that's right for you". There is no reason why there should be a "right" sport for everyone, and indeed I do not believe there is. Certainly I've stopped looking.

    When asked what team I support and reply that I don’t like football, the response is usually “so what sport do you like?”

    Though music fans can be just as incredulous with people who don't share their hobby.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited November 2022
    Spike wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I should add - the internet is full of advice to "find the sport that's right for you". There is no reason why there should be a "right" sport for everyone, and indeed I do not believe there is. Certainly I've stopped looking.

    When asked what team I support and reply that I don’t like football, the response is usually “so what sport do you like?”

    Though music fans can be just as incredulous with people who don't share their hobby.

    It's funny you should say that as I've seen a few memes lately along the general lines of music being absolutely essential to a fulfilled life. Supported by lots of comments about how the poster can't imagine life without music.

    I'm a musician and yet I don't feel the need to fill every spare moment with music. I tend to listen to R4 rather than a music channel. When I put music on it's to listen to it, not to do something else with it in the background.

    Eldest child listens to some music but his preferences tell me he's more interested in the lyrics than the music (he has a strong interest in history, especially warfare, and primarily listens to Sabaton).

    Middle child doesn’t listen to any and tells me he doesn’t really like any music. He dislikes some genres more than others but doesn’t like anything.

    So I know it's simply untrue.
  • There is “music”, then there is Music proper.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    There is “music”, then there is Music proper.

    Explain?
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'm not sure there's anything that could be defined as "proper"music. It's such a subjective thing; one man's meat, another man's poison.

    My own taste ranges from (but isn't limited to) the sublime harmonies of Byrd, Tallis and Gibbons, through the dance music of Susato and Praetorius, the symphonies of Haydn, the operettas of Gilbert and Sullivan, Anglican chants for the Psalms, settings of the Canticles by Howells or Sumsion to the Beatles, Status Quo, the New Romantics and Queen.

    The only genres I really can't get on with are country and western, rap and bagpipes (with the honourable exception of Highland Cathedral).

    I do think there are certain genres that are appropriate for certain occasions, and my preference would be not to mix rock music and worship, but each to his own.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I'm not sure there's anything that could be defined as "proper"music. It's such a subjective thing; one man's meat, another man's poison.

    I do think there are certain genres that are appropriate for certain occasions, and my preference would be not to mix rock music and worship, but each to his own.

    One man's meat is another man's poison
    My favourite car is an Avions Voisin


    Totally agree about rock music and church, but many do not go along with that. If it appeals to a younger generation and gets them into church, it can't be all bad. As long as there's no mixing of music in the one service.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Piglet wrote: »
    bagpipes (with the honourable exception of Highland Cathedral).

    It is my considered opinion that the pipes are best enjoyed from a decent distance (that's not a dig, just experience of sitting 2 seats from where the piper was standing in a fairly small hall).
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I agree - playing Scotland the Brave from Quite Far Away is fine! :mrgreen:
  • The conductor Sir Thomas Beecham said (allegedly!): "A true gentleman is a man who can play the bagpipes, but does not play".

    NB You do realise that "Highland Cathedral" was written by two Germans?
  • Piglet wrote: »
    I'm not sure there's anything that could be defined as "proper"music. It's such a subjective thing; one man's meat, another man's poison.

    My own taste ranges from (but isn't limited to) the sublime harmonies of Byrd, Tallis and Gibbons, through the dance music of Susato and Praetorius, the symphonies of Haydn, the operettas of Gilbert and Sullivan, Anglican chants for the Psalms, settings of the Canticles by Howells or Sumsion to the Beatles, Status Quo, the New Romantics and Queen.

    The only genres I really can't get on with are country and western, rap and bagpipes (with the honourable exception of Highland Cathedral).

    I do think there are certain genres that are appropriate for certain occasions, and my preference would be not to mix rock music and worship, but each to his own.

    There aren't that many people to be honest who can effectively do rock music in church - especially actual rock music, not the sub-radio 2 pseudo-folk of Mission Praise etc.. I have an aversion to it solely because of baggage, to be honest.

    I like choral music in small doses but most orchestral instrumental music leaves me cold. I enjoy the raw power of rock (as in the above example) and the lyrics of folk (traditional and folk-rock like Fairport). I generally say that my musical taste takes in everything from Metallica to Fotheringay via the Jethro Tull route. It excludes soul, rap, hip-hop and what passes for R&B these days.
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Puzzler wrote: »
    There is “music”, then there is Music proper.

    Explain?
    Somewhat tongue in cheek, sorry- but Piglet has given a better answer.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Puzzler wrote: »
    There is “music”, then there is Music proper.

    Explain?
    Somewhat tongue in cheek, sorry- but Piglet has given a better answer.

    Returning to @Arethosemyfeet 's original tangent - regardof the music in question I have definitely discovered that some people have no need for any of it.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    bagpipes (with the honourable exception of Highland Cathedral).

    It is my considered opinion that the pipes are best enjoyed from a decent distance (that's not a dig, just experience of sitting 2 seats from where the piper was standing in a fairly small hall).

    As far as we are concerned, the Scottish Highlands are quite close enough. And my father, son and I all went to a school variously Presbyterian and Uniting, and which boasted a strong pipe band.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Oh FFS.

    About three weeks ago, we contacted the management of the building to say we had a water leak in our bathroom. The new concierge of the building came round to have a look, opened the trapdoor and concluded that the leak was coming from a higher floor.

    Some time after that, a plumber arrived. He too opened the trapdoor and concluded that the leak was coming from a higher floor.

    A week passes. The concierge knocks on the door and says he needs to look at our plumbing, because the people downstairs have a leak. It does not occur to him that the water leaking downstairs is probably coming from the same source as the water leaking in our apartment. I tell him he already looked at our plumbing and concluded it came from higher up. He goes to knock on the door upstairs (I assume, although maybe I shouldn’t).

    Fast forward another two weeks. We are 700 km away, when the concierge calls us on the phone to tell us we need to turn our water off at the mains because it’s leaking through the ceiling downstairs. IT’S NOT OUR BLOODY LEAK WE’VE TOLD YOU THREE TIMES NOW THE LEAK’S UPSTAIRS.

    When we got back this weekend the various neighbours basically gave up on the building management and took matters into our own hands by opening all the trapdoors to locate said leak. There is a big one the floor above ours, which they claim they also told the management about a fortnight ago and no one’s got round to fixing. The concierge came around *again* this afternoon to ask if we had a leak, apparently not making any link with anything that’s gone before. The scale of the incompetence is so mindboggling I feel like I’m something scripted by Kafka, except with plumbing instead of the legal system.

    Time to set the insurers on them. I only hope the other residents are going to do the same.

    Update time: Plumber the THIRD has just rung the doorbell to look for The Leak™ and would you figure, he's concluded that it's coming from upstairs. This has now being going on for well over a month. Our bathroom plumbing has now been examined by the concierge three or four times, the building manager, and three different plumbers.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Perhaps it’s really you they want to see @la vie en rouge and the leak is just an excuse :wink:
  • You should sell tickets.
  • I wonder if they're hoping that X number of visits will result in some sort of Special Plumbery Magic occurring, and the leak repairing itself...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Like the alien squeak in the car that mysteriously becomes silent as soon as a mechanic hoves into view? 🤔
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    The dreaded "intermittent fault" which is the bane of anyone trying to fix anything.
  • The dreaded "intermittent fault" which is the bane of anyone trying to fix anything.

    Yep. If you want to ruin an IT tech's day (albeit you're a monster if you do), the following are usually intractable faults:

    "It doesn't do it all the time"
    "It's running a bit slow"
    "The sound keeps on cutting in and out"
    "It works fine in everything except this (critical) app"
    "The web page hangs"
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    For "running a bit slow" I've been prescribing more RAM and switch out the 5400rpm HDD for an SSD. And uninstall AVG this isn't 2006 any more.
  • For "running a bit slow" I've been prescribing more RAM and switch out the 5400rpm HDD for an SSD. And uninstall AVG this isn't 2006 any more.

    Oh aye. W10/11 on spinning rust is just miserable. Defender's pretty good for AV now.
  • We've just spent three days attempting to find the source of the rustling noises and knocked over plants (and a very VERY attentive dog). Finally find it. We've had a squirrel in the house, which explains why it was hanging out near my desk (we've got tree-sized plumeria in pots there, and I doubt a mouse would have cared). The squirrel has been hustled outside and all is well. Though the dog is disappointed.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    The dog obviously wants its own pet squirrel to play with.
  • Yes indeed.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Clothes moths. Knitting the neckband on a cardigan which I admit has been hanging about a bit - when I noticed a small hole. The buggers have been chewing on it before it’s even finished.
  • We've just spent three days attempting to find the source of the rustling noises and knocked over plants (and a very VERY attentive dog). Finally find it. We've had a squirrel in the house, which explains why it was hanging out near my desk (we've got tree-sized plumeria in pots there, and I doubt a mouse would have cared). The squirrel has been hustled outside and all is well. Though the dog is disappointed.
    We seem to have a squirrel or bird some other small something in the walls. I’m not happy.

  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Possums in the ceiling make us unhappy.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Possums anywhere except dead and knitted into warm clothing make me unhappy. They are not native here, but were introduced to be the basis of a fur trade. Unfortunately they have been very successful breeders and they are one of the main threats to native birds, by destroying their habitat. Possibly the only bigger threat is people, but you can't get away with trapping, poisoning or shooting them.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    And the clothing is excellent (if rather on the pricy side).
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    edited November 2022
    Which is why I only have gloves, a beanie , and socks made with possum fur. The fibre is hollow which adds to the warmth.

    Today I consign to hell the person working for the City Council who double booked the venue for our Community Library's open Day.

    now we have to do it all again next week.
  • We've got another squirrel inside.
  • Huia wrote: »
    Possums anywhere except dead and knitted into warm clothing make me unhappy. They are not native here, but were introduced to be the basis of a fur trade. Unfortunately they have been very successful breeders and they are one of the main threats to native birds, by destroying their habitat. Possibly the only bigger threat is people, but you can't get away with trapping, poisoning or shooting them.

    I find this interesting, around here possums are seen as good. We are told to protect them. as they are good for your garden eating garden pests such as slugs and snails. They are encouraged because they control ticks

  • Just pointing out that North American possums and Australian/New Zealand possums are not the same animal.
  • North American "possums" are actually opossums, and are North America's only marsupial. They are very sweet animals, and need help.
  • NicoleMR wrote: »
    North American "possums" are actually opossums, and are North America's only marsupial.
    Yes, but I rarely hear anyone actually say “opossum.”

  • It's from a Native American word, I believe. I suspect that Australian possums are named after them.
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Just pointing out that North American possums and Australian/New Zealand possums are not the same animal.
    That explains it. I was really wondering about the fur products. Thanks Nick.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    NicoleMR wrote: »
    North American "possums" are actually opossums, and are North America's only marsupial. They are very sweet animals, and need help.

    You'd not say that about our possums. We went away for a week one summer and came home to find that one had died in the space above our kitchen ceiling. The stench was unimaginable.
  • I dunno. I think if I'd died in the space above your kitchen ceiling, the stench would be unimaginable no matter how sweet I was... :lol:
  • They are nasty bastards, alive or dead. Few things more tedious than possums fornicating in the roof space with accompanying grunting and snarling. The stench of possum piss would also knock you down….
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    There's a national plan to rid NZ of possums and other predators by 2050. These are mainly introduced animals and include possums, ferrets,stoats, weasels and rats, including the native Kiori. These are the animals that have the most impact on the native birds. Personally although I love having a pet cat, I think feral cats should be added to the list. There ate some that live in alpine areas between the east and west coasts and they are decimating Kea, the amazing and intelligent alpine parrots.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    We seem to have missed stoats. Can't understand why the others were introduced, although rabbits do make an enjoyable stew.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    I think rabbits were introduced here for the fur industry.

    Mum said her family would have found survival difficult during the Depression without 3 sons regularly bring home rabbits for the pot.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    I dunno. I think if I'd died in the space above your kitchen ceiling, the stench would be unimaginable no matter how sweet I was... :lol:

    We'd rather have you alive than dead, LC.
  • Now there's a vote of confidence! :lol:
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Huia wrote: »
    Mum said her family would have found survival difficult during the Depression without 3 sons regularly bring home rabbits for the pot.

    That's exactly what the sons in families did both in NZ and here, their contribution to keeping the family fed and going in the hard times.
  • My grandfather's first job, back in the first decade of last century, was as offsider to an itinerant rabbit-seller, known here as a 'rabbit-oh'. That was his call as he pushed his barrow through the streets. This was in the poorer inner suburbs of Sydney long before gentrification.
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