Martin54 is referring tothe clip on BBC News yesterday of our Prime Minister's presence at a raid on illegal immigrants at a property in, I think, London. Perhaps he was there to observe and make sure it was carried out in a courteous and restrained manner. They used a battering ram to gain entry. I thought this sort of Action Man cosplay went out with the last PM but one. My perception of Sunak has taken a hit; who on earth can have advised him to take part in this?
We need more Kenmure Streets. Sunak would have looked right silly if he'd turned up and been faced with a street full of local residents blocking the Border Force vans and preventing their neighbours being pulled off like criminals.
The media seem to delight in using the incorrect phrase "illegal immigrant", and many politicians do too. There was a time when telling the truth was considered an essential to political careers and serious journalism. Now both seem to be a game of how outrageous a lie can be stated without getting into trouble.
Aye. The film showed the stormtroopers, sorry immigration enforcement team, with Metropolitan Police assistance, battering the door down to root out the invaders.
Aye. The film showed the stormtroopers, sorry immigration enforcement team, with Metropolitan Police assistance, battering the door down to root out the invaders.
Oh that's ok then - if it's the Met Police it can only be proportionate and necessary. Not.
Aye. The film showed the stormtroopers, sorry immigration enforcement team, with Metropolitan Police assistance, battering the door down to root out the invaders.
Oh that's ok then - if it's the Met Police it can only be proportionate and necessary. Not.
Rishi seemed to think so. Well pleased with himself.
He is saying: 'Look, I am doing something about this (perceived) problem.'
This is for the benefit of Sid and Doris Bonkers, the Mail readers whose vote for the Tories hangs on how 'tough' they are on unauthorised brown people.
It's just an act, really. Theatre. Like a medieval king going to a tournament to show how knightly and chivalrous he is. People are influenced by stuff like this, which is why the ruling class have been doing it for a very long time - certainly since mass media and universal voting came in. Winston Churchill rocked up at the Siege of Sidney Street as far back as 1911. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sidney_Street
He is saying: 'Look, I am doing something about this (perceived) problem.'
This is for the benefit of Sid and Doris Bonkers, the Mail readers whose vote for the Tories hangs on how 'tough' they are on unauthorised brown people.
It's just an act, really. Theatre. Like a medieval king going to a tournament to show how knightly and chivalrous he is. People are influenced by stuff like this, which is why the ruling class have been doing it for a very long time - certainly since mass media and universal voting came in. Winston Churchill rocked up at the Siege of Sidney Street as far back as 1911. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sidney_Street
The trouble is that it's not just Sid & Doris Bonkers (with belated acknowledgements to Private Eye) who read the Wail/Fail/Heil, and there are other so-called *news* outlets which play to the ignorance and xenophobia of the Gammon.
GBeebies, I'm thinking (reluctantly) of you...
(BTW, Churchill Did No Wrong Ever, and we are still at war with Eastasia).
I can only assume that the raid was to deal with something thought to be illegal. What was the point of it otherwise, unless, as postulated above, it was a piece of Performance Art..
Aye. The film showed the stormtroopers, sorry immigration enforcement team, with Metropolitan Police assistance, battering the door down to root out the invaders.
Oh that's ok then - if it's the Met Police it can only be proportionate and necessary. Not.
Rishi seemed to think so. Well pleased with himself.
If he were to have the Police arrested live on screen that would be worth a load of hay
Fair enough. Possibly a slip of the pen finger on your part, for which you are duly forgiven. As has been said, it's a frequent error in the right-wing Meeja.
Well, Rishi seems quite enthusiastic in turning schools into police states for trans kids. Section 28 really is coming back, it seems. It does make you wonder about his own experiences of authoritarian schooling.
Was he at Winchester in the Smyth era? Or one where punishment not encouragement ran deep?
He's not that much older than me so must have been well after the Smyth era. Also from Southampton and iirc only a weekly boarder due to being so local.
Was he at Winchester in the Smyth era? Or one where punishment not encouragement ran deep?
He's not that much older than me so must have been well after the Smyth era. Also from Southampton and iirc only a weekly boarder due to being so local.
Thanks - I wonder just what the ethos was at Winchester in his era
TBF, I can't say I blame him...even though W-W R! has been complicit in many of the Bad Things and Hideous Fibs which have characterised the past few years of tory misrule.
It might be me but as we approach the election I am starting to notice something. Interesting timings. We are hopefully joining Horizon. There is news on an offshore wind farm. What next? With a general election next year is Rishi playing his aces now?
It might be me but as we approach the election I am starting to notice something. Interesting timings. We are hopefully joining Horizon. There is news on an offshore wind farm. What next? With a general election next year is Rishi playing his aces now?
Umm... the offshore wind farm news is that the government fucked up big time and didn't get any bidders in its latest auction of contracts for difference because it tried to keep the price at less than half what is available for new nuclear.
It might be me but as we approach the election I am starting to notice something. Interesting timings. We are hopefully joining Horizon. There is news on an offshore wind farm. What next? With a general election next year is Rishi playing his aces now?
Umm... the offshore wind farm news is that the government fucked up big time and didn't get any bidders in its latest auction of contracts for difference because it tried to keep the price at less than half what is available for new nuclear.
Still interesting that these things are coming out close to the election
It might be me but as we approach the election I am starting to notice something. Interesting timings. We are hopefully joining Horizon. There is news on an offshore wind farm. What next? With a general election next year is Rishi playing his aces now?
Umm... the offshore wind farm news is that the government fucked up big time and didn't get any bidders in its latest auction of contracts for difference because it tried to keep the price at less than half what is available for new nuclear.
Still interesting that these things are coming out close to the election
Not exactly an ace was my point. More a 3, except for climate change deniers. Maybe he's trying to win back votes from the Faragists?
It might be me but as we approach the election I am starting to notice something. Interesting timings. We are hopefully joining Horizon. There is news on an offshore wind farm. What next? With a general election next year is Rishi playing his aces now?
Umm... the offshore wind farm news is that the government fucked up big time and didn't get any bidders in its latest auction of contracts for difference because it tried to keep the price at less than half what is available for new nuclear.
Still interesting that these things are coming out close to the election
Not exactly an ace was my point. More a 3, except for climate change deniers. Maybe he's trying to win back votes from the Faragists?
"Look, no-one wants these wind turbine things. We can't get anyone to build them!"
Thread revived for Rishi Sunak, who has just thrown the "can't define a woman" transphobic trope at Starmer while Brianna Ghey's mother is in the public gallery.
Hostly Warning: continue to discuss Sunak by all means, but anyone wishing to litigate the substance of this particular remark can take it to Epiphanies with all that implies or face sanction.
Thread revived for Rishi Sunak, who has just thrown the "can't define a woman" transphobic trope at Starmer while Brianna Ghey's mother is in the public gallery.
What a twat.
A link to the Guardian's live blog gives a bit more detail, but I hear what @chrisstiles says about discussing it further on this thread:
Quite apart from yet another debacle at PMQs, Sushi has been widely condemned for his callous bet with Chief Gobshite Piers Morgan about sending illegal people to Africa. I think he needs a new communications team...
While leaving discussion of the content of the remark to a more appropriate venue, it's utterly reprehensible that Sunak should throw around transphobic tropes in public. Even more so while the mother of a victim of such transphobic hate is in the building pushing for action to reduce the chances of other parents losing children to hate. He should be prosecuted for hate speech for that remark, locked up and the key thrown away. He and the whole jack-booted, hatefilled, evil cabal we're stuck with until the next election (may it be soon).
While leaving discussion of the content of the remark to a more appropriate venue, it's utterly reprehensible that Sunak should throw around transphobic tropes in public. Even more so while the mother of a victim of such transphobic hate is in the building pushing for action to reduce the chances of other parents losing children to hate. He should be prosecuted for hate speech for that remark, locked up and the key thrown away. He and the whole jack-booted, hatefilled, evil cabal we're stuck with until the next election (may it be soon).
It's hard to tell whether the wretched man is evil and callous by nature, or has become so by virtue of his office as PM, and as a member of the increasingly awful tory party.
I note that the mysterious entity known as *NumberTen* (an avatar of Larry The Cat? No - he'd be far more sympathetic) has refused to apologise for Sushi's remarks. Perhaps having to face Keir Starmer throws our gobshite of a PM into such a panic mode that he simply says the first thing that comes into his head? Which may tell you something about the inside of his head...
That may well be true, but the poor hapless Wishi-Washi really is between a Rock and a Hard Place - although, as you imply, sooner might be better for the tories than later.
They might end up with 100+ seats now, but only half that later, when Reform supplants them...
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However, immigrants are not *illegal*. Was that word used on the news clip to which you refer?
Oh that's ok then - if it's the Met Police it can only be proportionate and necessary. Not.
Rishi seemed to think so. Well pleased with himself.
This is for the benefit of Sid and Doris Bonkers, the Mail readers whose vote for the Tories hangs on how 'tough' they are on unauthorised brown people.
It's just an act, really. Theatre. Like a medieval king going to a tournament to show how knightly and chivalrous he is. People are influenced by stuff like this, which is why the ruling class have been doing it for a very long time - certainly since mass media and universal voting came in. Winston Churchill rocked up at the Siege of Sidney Street as far back as 1911. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sidney_Street
The trouble is that it's not just Sid & Doris Bonkers (with belated acknowledgements to Private Eye) who read the Wail/Fail/Heil, and there are other so-called *news* outlets which play to the ignorance and xenophobia of the Gammon.
GBeebies, I'm thinking (reluctantly) of you...
(BTW, Churchill Did No Wrong Ever, and we are still at war with Eastasia).
If he were to have the Police arrested live on screen that would be worth a load of hay
Hmm.
Fair enough. Possibly a slip of the pen finger on your part, for which you are duly forgiven. As has been said, it's a frequent error in the right-wing Meeja.
He's not that much older than me so must have been well after the Smyth era. Also from Southampton and iirc only a weekly boarder due to being so local.
Thanks - I wonder just what the ethos was at Winchester in his era
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/19/rishi-sunak-to-miss-vote-sanctioning-boris-johnson-over-partygate
TBF, I can't say I blame him...even though W-W R! has been complicit in many of the Bad Things and Hideous Fibs which have characterised the past few years of tory misrule.
Translation: He’s a spineless bastard
Umm... the offshore wind farm news is that the government fucked up big time and didn't get any bidders in its latest auction of contracts for difference because it tried to keep the price at less than half what is available for new nuclear.
Still interesting that these things are coming out close to the election
Not exactly an ace was my point. More a 3, except for climate change deniers. Maybe he's trying to win back votes from the Faragists?
"Look, no-one wants these wind turbine things. We can't get anyone to build them!"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/02/sunak-fails-to-hand-whatsapp-messages-from-time-as-chancellor-to-covid-inquiry
What a twat.
-- chrisstiles, Hell Host
A link to the Guardian's live blog gives a bit more detail, but I hear what @chrisstiles says about discussing it further on this thread:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/feb/07/rishi-sunak-pmqs-victoria-atkins-labour-conservatives-nhs-dentists-politics-live
Quite apart from yet another debacle at PMQs, Sushi has been widely condemned for his callous bet with Chief Gobshite Piers Morgan about sending illegal people to Africa. I think he needs a new communications team...
It's hard to tell whether the wretched man is evil and callous by nature, or has become so by virtue of his office as PM, and as a member of the increasingly awful tory party.
I note that the mysterious entity known as *NumberTen* (an avatar of Larry The Cat? No - he'd be far more sympathetic) has refused to apologise for Sushi's remarks. Perhaps having to face Keir Starmer throws our gobshite of a PM into such a panic mode that he simply says the first thing that comes into his head? Which may tell you something about the inside of his head...
They might end up with 100+ seats now, but only half that later, when Reform supplants them...