Happy Passover and/or St. George's Day for all who celebrate one or both!

Happy Passover and/or St. George's Day for all who celebrate one or both!

I'm a Christian who is Jewish by blood, and who reveres the saints, so both matter to me personally.

It's also Shakespeare's birthday! :open_mouth:
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  • Now THAT is a mix!
  • ChastMastr wrote: »
    I'm a Christian who is Jewish by blood, and who reveres the saints, so both matter to me personally.

    I'm also a Christian who is Jewish by blood, but I'm not much concerned with the saints.
  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    Happy Passover! I've had two seders in the past two days.
  • Just to add a sombre note, some of us who are British are not exactly proud of that right now, given the moral turpitude of our present government. We could do with a saint or two to get rid of them, never mind inoffensive dragons...
    :disappointed:

    St George was celebrated at Our Place yesterday, and will be so again on Sunday. A special *St George's Hymn* is programmed for the final hymn at the morning Mass, and there is a St George's-tide Masonic Service in church in the afternoon.

    This chap, however, is England's true patron saint:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_the_Martyr

  • Absolutely!
  • At least we know Edmund was an actual RL person, even if accurate records are scanty...
    :wink:
  • ArielAriel Shipmate
    There's been remarkably little enthusiasm across social media and a lot of snide remarks. I was hoping people might focus on some of the better aspects of England for once. St George's Day doesn't have to be the preserve of thugs draped in Engerland flags - reclaim the national day.

    I'd like to mention cream teas, the Cotswolds, the sense of history, some of the great names of literature, the NHS, free secondary education, David Attenborough, Doctor Who and some great actors. Anything else?

  • This chap, however, is England's true patron saint:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_the_Martyr

    If we wanted to go looking for specifically English saints - or Romano-British I suppose - we could do worse than St Patrick... Half the stories have him coming from Ravenglass, there's been a (relatively) late effort to claim him for Wales, but I favour the Northamptonshire claim, not least because the location of Bannaventa is just up the road from me and I could make a killing in trinkets/shrine relics.

    'Cry St Patrick for England' - can't see a problem there.

  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    edited April 2024

    Ariel wrote: »

    I'd like to mention cream teas, the Cotswolds, the sense of history, some of the great names of literature, the NHS, free secondary education, David Attenborough, Doctor Who and some great actors. Anything else?
    Real ale
    village cricket
    Cox's Orange Pippin
    Westmorland Services

  • This is beginning to sound like John Major's speech in 1993: "Fifty years on from now, Britain will still be the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers, and—as George Orwell said—old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist".
  • Ah, the the country of long maids in suburbs, warm Holy Communion, invincible green beer, dog lovers, and— old shadows bicycling to county grounds through the morning mist.
  • This is beginning to sound like John Major's speech in 1993: "Fifty years on from now, Britain will still be the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers, and—as George Orwell said—old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist".

    snap
  • ArielAriel Shipmate
    I was going to say trains but I see they were invented in Wales. The London Tube wasn't, though.
  • Ariel wrote: »
    I was going to say trains but I see they were invented in Wales. The London Tube wasn't, though.

    Well, the first public railway to carry passengers was in Wales (1807).

    It later became the Swansea & Mumbles, though it was left to England to build the first *inter-city* line, with all trains - passenger and freight - steam-hauled, the Liverpool & Manchester (1830).

    I think the first railway to publicly carry goods (as opposed to lines built purely to serve an industry) was the Surrey Iron Railway (1802-03).

    So yes, passenger-carrying steam railways are another English achievement!

  • And the first locomotive ran in Wales but was designed by a Cornishman.
  • True!
    :wink:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited April 2024
    Ariel wrote: »
    There's been remarkably little enthusiasm across social media and a lot of snide remarks. I was hoping people might focus on some of the better aspects of England for once. St George's Day doesn't have to be the preserve of thugs draped in Engerland flags - reclaim the national day.

    I'd like to mention cream teas, the Cotswolds, the sense of history, some of the great names of literature, the NHS, free secondary education, David Attenborough, Doctor Who and some great actors. Anything else?

    Not to mention the absolute flower of church music:

    Tallis
    Byrd
    Weelkes
    Gibbons
    Howells
    Vaughan Williams

    ... and rock music:

    Queen
    Genesis
    The Beatles ...

    I could go on. And England, bless its heart, provided me with the best husband I could possibly have wished for ... :heart:

    If it's any comfort, St Patrick wasn't Irish and St Andrew wasn't Scottish either.

    To all who celebrated*, I hope you had a good day!

    * except those who celebrated because they were unpleasant racist thugs, but that wouldn't include anybody here.
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    edited April 2024
    Piglet wrote: »

    Queen
    Genesis
    The Beatles ...
    Not forgetting the immortal bard* Nigel Blackwell of Half Man Half Biscuit.

    *true, he won a prize at the Eisteddfod for best poem by a new speaker of Welsh

    (Fixed quoting - I think … DT, Passing crew)
  • Well I buggered those quotes up didn't I?
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Hope that helps !
  • Hope that helps !

    Thanks @Doublethink . @Sandemaniac just looked over my shoulder and said "Yes, perfect". He also passed comment that he shouldn't be let loose to post on a phone...
  • Indeed not. Sticking stamps on the dial makes it hard to turn.
  • Indeed not. Sticking stamps on the dial makes it hard to turn.

    LMAO!
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    Ariel wrote: »
    There's been remarkably little enthusiasm across social media and a lot of snide remarks. I was hoping people might focus on some of the better aspects of England for once. St George's Day doesn't have to be the preserve of thugs draped in Engerland flags - reclaim the national day.

    I'd like to mention cream teas, the Cotswolds, the sense of history, some of the great names of literature, the NHS, free secondary education, David Attenborough, Doctor Who and some great actors. Anything else?

    PROFESSOR ELEMENTAL. ❤️

    https://youtu.be/FkF_XpA5P48?si=4bxwPzYJr8BVbwDr
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    And also… The Ship! ❤️ At least in its origins.
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