Yes. Unfortunately it didn’t quite work for me this year as the red scarf I needed for Messiah choir uniform was not in the box. I remembered that last year the box was too full to fit it in, but I couldn’t remember its new place and couldn’t find it so had to buy a new one. When wrapping presents, there it was in between some flat pieces of wrapping paper, the bits left over when you cut from a roll. I found it in time for the carol concert- so it was a matter of timing as well as the right place, as I wasn’t into wrapping presents before Messiah.
@Puzzler, I think I'm going to start labelling my storage boxes to help me find what's in them. However, that will then be a task I'll have to remember to redo if I ever use the boxes for something else!
@Huia, I am finding it a lot easier to cope and manage household stuff so much better, now that stuff actually does have a proper place. We spent so many year just stuffing things in our garage, that everything just became a mess and we never parked our cars in the garage!
My husband won't like it, but I've been thinking we should cull the DVDs that are suitable for small children. We could keep a handful, but even if we give them away, I think it's better than hoarding stuff we no longer need to use.
I've also been pondering getting rid of all the scarves I've been given as gifts. I have a short plump neck and I really hate the feel of scarves, so I think they will be amongst the first things to go next year!
Oo, I love scarves - received one this year as a Christmas present. I do have a boxful already, mind you...
One thing I've been half-meaning to do for years but have never quite had the emotional energy for it is to sort out the Christmas decorations and only put away what we use or what has immense emotional attachment. There's a lot of stuff that just gets looked at and put away every year. I think this year might be The Year.
This year I am starting with the paperwork.
Mine, my music scores, my late husband’s estate ( still not quite finalised), memorabilia.
But first, some cleaning, as I have been lazy.
That sounds like a great plan @Puzzler. @Nenya, I keep meaning to go through our Christmas decorations too. I had almost decided to get rid of some, but guess which ones I used last year?!!! They looked nice too, so I think I'll be keeping those and perhaps getting rid of some others.
The first box of books has gone from the house. Over the Christmas break I sorted some and got them ready to go. I am also fortunate that I subscribe to a magazine that the book fair will actually accept, so I decided to keep last year's issues, plus the current year and got rid of all the others. So that is progress.
At the end of the bed next to my blanket box, I had a crate with a variety of paperwork, mostly related to Cheery son, I weeded that a bit and transferred it into a box with a lid, so the crate has gone to the garage to be disposed of, yay! Slow but steady!
I also made a very happy discovery that some boxes, that I thought were mine were checked and they belong to the children and not to me, so I am pleased for me, but a bit unhappy in that I know they won't want to go through them. Perhaps a job for the Easter break!!
I looked for new decorations to replace the ones I bought when the grandchildren were small ( youngest is now 17) but found nothing I liked that was small enough for my smallish tree.
The top of my filing cabinet is now clear, but I keep discovering more stuff to sort, so I will go and do another hour.
Your children and grandchildren may have strong sentimental attachments to ornaments you’ve had since they were small. Please offer them the chance to take ones you’re planning to get rid of. (My mother trashed ours deliberately when she was in a snit with her husband, knowing it would cause pain to all of us—that was the point).
Your children and grandchildren may have strong sentimental attachments to ornaments you’ve had since they were small. Please offer them the chance to take ones you’re planning to get rid of. (My mother trashed ours deliberately when she was in a snit with her husband, knowing it would cause pain to all of us—that was the point).
I, too, have overworked the shredder which is just having a little rest before I can use it again! But, that's more because it's a new shredder as I killed off the previous one some months ago and I finally got fed up of the pile of papers overflowing "For Shredding" bin so went off for a new one earlier today..
I'm really pleased with this new one as it's got a micro cut, so it's cutting into very tiny pieces so getting more shredding into the bags for binning.
In between times, as the shredder is like my students who need a long rest between short bouts of work, I'm dealing with the three of my shopping trolleys full of old hymnbooks which came home from church which are about to meet their doom.
I've tried offering out the least disreputable books via local sources, to no avail, so I'm sorting out small sets (of about 30) which we may use occasionally, and the two sets of smaller books are just getting binned as they are pretty battered and bruised, in many cases were passed on to us by other churches, and owe us absolutely nothing. I'm just ripping out and shredding any identifying factors.
I am also muttering dark thoughts about my two predecessors as organist (both of whom did about 12 years each, and I'm now in my 13th year as organist in this place) who I do not thing ever got rid of anything not needed.
Why am I doing this at home, you may ask? It's warmer, and easier to be ruthless. Plus, the church bins haven't been emptied...
I remember reading it years ago. Looking around me it's obvious that the message made no long-term impact on my life. (sigh). Maybe I need to start over and try again.
I don't know if it was that particular book, because I read a few at the time, but I remember being impressed by a strategy tidying for three quarters of an hour then taking a quarter hour break. It made the task seem possible, rather than overwhelming.
Good that you were able to ascertain whether the items were wanted, @Puzzler and I'm glad you are taking breaks from the task, a little every day is probably better than big binges and feeling completely knackered afterwards.
We killed a shredder trying to get through things too quickly, @Japes, it was a shame we (well my kids), learnt the hard way!
I've not read any decluttering books, @ChastMastr, but have watched Marie Kondo a with my kids. I didn't take on board much of the sparking joy idea. For me it was about, is it still useful, or for clothes, does it fit? Would it be missed? Is there room for it? Does it belong to a stage of life that we are no longer in? That helped me get rid of a lot of things. I do hope though, that you find your book helpful, different things work for different people.
I remember a friend telling me about a book that helped her, where the lady started at the front door and just went room by room.
This week the magazines and books have gone and I can see a bit more floor, so that is good!
On the naughty side, I did see at my favourite auction house a very long but shallow bookcase that would be fabulous in my hallway. Cheery husband has not said a definite No, so there is still hope!! It would be good as I can hang paintings above it and make a nice group. We will see....
I am revelling in the all-too-brief joy of a spotless kitchen and bathroom and vacuumed carpets. These are due to M who comes once a month and does more in three hours than I manage in the intervening weeks, plus fixes things - a fallen blind in this case.
I did make a start on organising my art materials though. I appear to have 50 paintbrushes. Then I began going through a box of paper things and discovered 6 packs of playing cards, semi-used notebooks and a book of days belonging to my late MiL - at which point I retreated. Tidying is one thing, but coping with the memories evoked by objects is another.
@Cheery Gardener you mentioned a shallow bookcase. We had a carpenter make us three bookcases, about the depth of a book, so you can’t stack books 2 deep, and with 8 fixed shelves made to the 3 standard paperback book heights. They are bolted to the wall in our hallway as they would not be safe without fixing. They take up very little space but hold a lot of books. My parents had a similar bookcase in an unused space behind the dining room door which accommodated all the penguin paperback size books. My father had thousands of books.
I made a fourth bookcase copying the professional ones to occupy another odd spot.
I was once a librarian, so have all the fiction shelved by author, within the three sizes. A bit to my annoyance, the larger sizes seem more popular with publishers now.
We are taking the Christmas decorations down today and decluttering some of the ones that stay in the boxes year after year due to sentimental reasons. We'll send pictures of any we're not sure about to the children, in case they go, "Noooo, don't get rid of that!" I've become aware that we often keep things for our own memories, not our children's. A recent example is a particular toy of my son's which has come out again in recent months for when our granddaughter comes here. I have very strong, affectionate memories related to that toy, but when I talked about it to our son he smiled fondly and said, "I remember you telling me about that, Mum." So the memories are mine: do I want to keep that toy because of them? Yes. Does he? No.
I've tried the Marie Kondo folding thing and while it makes drawers and cupboards look nice I can't keep it up and Life's Too Short.
We might be moving house this year so some decluttering will definitely be happening as time goes on.
We killed a shredder trying to get through things too quickly, @Japes, it was a shame we (well my kids), learnt the hard way!
You'd think I'd've learned by now that home shredders are not as sturdy as the workplace ones... but apparently not. On the other hand, the 4 bins (where the paper collected from the series of deceased shredders) make a useful paper sorting system in my music room.
At one stage, some of the shredding could be taken in to create work for some of my students who did shredding as what we called "an internal work placement" or as one of the units on their course, but that course no longer exists and those industrial shredders have been pensioned off.
I’ve purchased and started reading a book called Unf*ck Your Habitat. Has anyone read it?
Yes, i read it and found it very useful. The one bit that’s stayed (besides the “don’t blame yourself” advice) is about cleaning in 20 minute stints. I generally do this with my adult son who has OCD and has problems initiating change, but the twenty minute time limit (with an alarm) is short enough that he doesn’t hit major psych resistance to it. And we can do multiple 20s in a day if needed. One in a day is generally enough (with two people working) to keep the place habitable, though not lovely.
Today my son came, without much warning, with a plan to fill his car with stuff from my garage. I hadn’t made decisions about what I wanted to happen to the items but that is now out of my hands, and I am relieved. In particular he took a wooden unit made by Mr Puzzler specifically to house hi fi items, CDs and LP, as well as the hi fi kits, all of which were in use until he died. I had decided not to put them back in the living room after it was decorated, so they needed to go, but for me that was hard. My son did me a huge favour. He has probably put them on his local freecycle page.
When the weather is warmer I need to do more sorting in the garage. There is now room to move in there, but still too much stuff.
I have made zero progress with my own stuff, these last two days, having discovered a new online game which has grabbed my attention.
The Knotweed and I spent Thursday clearing (metaphorical) crap from the front bedroom. We can now see the floor, access the tall bookshelf, and return several plastic storage crates to the maternal Knotweed. There is enough space now to use the room as what a friend humorously, knowing where my mind would go, described as an "adult playroom", with a table set up for craft activities and space for the ironing board (we are that kinky).
I have celebrated this by finishing refurbishing a box camera, and attempting to fix two others. One of these is already at risk of defenestration as I am damned if I can work it why it isn't doing what it should.
@Sicut Cervus the husband has slowly come to realise that there will always be one more bookcase being squeezed into the house. I realised that if I'm able to secure the shallow one that I'm after, that it could also be used for CD storage and that would get rid of another box from the garage. I also have mixed feelings about large format paperbacks, they do take up rather a lot of space!!
I think it's ok @Puzzler to take a break every now and then from the decluttering, all work and no play .... my problem is I'd rather play than work!!
I did get the son to deal with some of his lego mess and he did some washing today and I got some vacuuming done. Daughter will work from home tomorrow, so I can't do any noisy jobs before mid afternoon, isn't that sad???
I'm so glad your son did you that favour @puzzler, it must be hard to say goodbye to things that hold memories but glad it is being put to good use. @Celtic Knotweed , we refer to our two 'studies' as playrooms. We don't do a great deal of study in them but do muck around with our hobbies.
The NE Man has retired! Unfortunately we've both been under the weather over Christmas, so our major decluttering / reorganising plans haven't started yet.
However, there is a bit of light at the end of one tunnel. The NE Man has been in the habit of bring tea home from his travels, but then not drinking it. His tea collection has taken over too much cupboard space. I suggested a retirement hobby of a "tea of the week" and he is keen. This week's "tea of the week" is Earl Grey he bought in Boston.
Late last year the triplex we live in was sold, and Friday we received notice that the new owner intends to move into our apartment. We have 60 days to find a new place and move. Well, 58.
Since we moved into this place in fall of 2020, I have had three waves of my parents' stuff come in - one when my mom moved into memory care and I cleaned out her apartment, one when she died and I cleaned out her room, and the last when I cleaned out all the stuff I put into storage when she went into memory care because the place where she lived wasn't allowing estate sales during the pandemic.
I have been working my way through this stuff in fits and starts, but now I need to be very serious about it!
There is enough space now to use the room as what a friend humorously, knowing where my mind would go, described as an "adult playroom", with a table set up for craft activities and space for the ironing board (we are that kinky).
I vowed when my parents died and we were clearing their house that we would never inflict the same on our children.
However much we may value stuff, (even if it has no value), we can be fairly sure that nobody else really does when left with it.
Late last year the triplex we live in was sold, and Friday we received notice that the new owner intends to move into our apartment. We have 60 days to find a new place and move. Well, 58.
Since we moved into this place in fall of 2020, I have had three waves of my parents' stuff come in - one when my mom moved into memory care and I cleaned out her apartment, one when she died and I cleaned out her room, and the last when I cleaned out all the stuff I put into storage when she went into memory care because the place where she lived wasn't allowing estate sales during the pandemic.
I have been working my way through this stuff in fits and starts, but now I need to be very serious about it!
That sounds uncommonly grim. It must be 40+ years since I clawed my way on to the property ladder - a 'single end' which is to say two rooms and three cupboards containing variously a toilet, shower and kitchen. When I lost my job and depended on benefits I would put aside the amount for the mortgage and prioritised that above even food. To lose a home is to lose everything. I really hope you can find a secure rental.
Thanks, @Firenze. It really has come as a shock. Before my partner and I moved in together in 2020, I lived in the same apartment for 27 years. We were planning on staying in this place another 5-10 years before moving to a senior community.
I cleaned out a cupboard - why do I have so many bags?! - and got a start on a closet yesterday.
I have just had a phone call from the local Methodist minister who is due to move, offering to take the bookcases from Mr Puzzler’s study to his new place. Wow! Just a fantastic plan, a perfect move, for him and for me. He is not going until the summer, which fits in well with my intention to get that room cleared this year. I set Easter as my target but summer is fine. It gives me a real incentive to resume the task of clearing the rest of the stuff in there.
Thanks, @Firenze. It really has come as a shock. Before my partner and I moved in together in 2020, I lived in the same apartment for 27 years. We were planning on staying in this place another 5-10 years before moving to a senior community.
I cleaned out a cupboard - why do I have so many bags?! - and got a start on a closet yesterday.
Let me get this straight, you have a new owner who wants to move into your apartment in less than 60 days. Doesn't the new owner have to honor your existing lease? I think I would consult a lawyer about this move (initial contacts to lawyers are usually free in my neck of the woods).
@Puzzler, I'm glad to hear of homes for your bookshelves and @Ruth, I'm sorry that you have to pack up and move so quickly. I'm not a book of Face person myself, but I hear people have success moving stuff on through their market place, but as with anything I am sure it's YMMV.
This week Cheery daughter is working from home so we need to keep noise down whilst she does so. Yesterday's task was the bathroom given a really good clean and a small paintbrush was my friend cleaning out the track for the shower door. The glass always stays pretty unspotty as we wipe with microfibre cloth after each shower, but basins and loo also given a good scrub. I think we have a limescale problem so I need to resolve that with the help of my favourite advice from Shannon who used to be a regular on local ABC with her tips and tricks with stains and cleaning.
I had thought about going around to clean up all my squished moths from the ceiling, but it's quite dull today and it's a job done more successfully when the light is brighter.
So, I think it's going to be a slow day, but I'll give myself a gold star for having changed one of the cat litter trays, I'll do the other tomorrow.
We looked at a place today that seems like a good possibility, so are much cheered. And I finished going through all my clothes. Today's puzzle: why do I have so many shawls?
@Cheery Gardener, I'm not a Facebook person either, but I've easily given things away on Freecycle. I don't think anyone would pay money for most of the things I'll probably want to get rid of.
@Gramps49, it's completely legal; around here property management companies typically do a one-year lease that converts to month-to-month.
@Cheery Gardener our water is also very hard. Top tip for bathroom cleaning (especially glass): mix equal parts of white vinegar and washing up liquid. Spray it on (it's worth buying a spray bottle if you're doing this regularly) and leave it to work for a while. Then you just need to give it a light scrub and rinse and it comes up impeccable.
Today I am still ploughing my way through piles of music scores, trying to sort them into some sort of order. My own piles are bad enough, but add Mr Puzzler’s into the mix makes it harder.
Fortuitously, I have found 20+ copies of the anthem we are about to learn for next Evensong.
Teach me O Lord the way of thy statutes (Attwood).
Proposed by our new MD. First choir practice on Thursday, but we already know him as he has been playing the organ for Evensong for a few months.
Thanks for the tip @la vie en rouge. I sprinkled some vinegar on the stained part of the basin yesterday and after leaving it to sit, followed up with a scrub with an old toothbrush and quite a lot of it came away. I did miss a spot behind the tap that I hadn't seen, but I'll give that a go today. Really pleased with it!
@la vie en rouge Thanks for your hint. I was wondering about cleaning the door when I was in the shower this morning. I will try it in the weekend and see how it goes.
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It's a saying I'm not so good at following.
@Huia, I am finding it a lot easier to cope and manage household stuff so much better, now that stuff actually does have a proper place. We spent so many year just stuffing things in our garage, that everything just became a mess and we never parked our cars in the garage!
My husband won't like it, but I've been thinking we should cull the DVDs that are suitable for small children. We could keep a handful, but even if we give them away, I think it's better than hoarding stuff we no longer need to use.
I've also been pondering getting rid of all the scarves I've been given as gifts. I have a short plump neck and I really hate the feel of scarves, so I think they will be amongst the first things to go next year!
One thing I've been half-meaning to do for years but have never quite had the emotional energy for it is to sort out the Christmas decorations and only put away what we use or what has immense emotional attachment. There's a lot of stuff that just gets looked at and put away every year. I think this year might be The Year.
Mine, my music scores, my late husband’s estate ( still not quite finalised), memorabilia.
But first, some cleaning, as I have been lazy.
The first box of books has gone from the house. Over the Christmas break I sorted some and got them ready to go. I am also fortunate that I subscribe to a magazine that the book fair will actually accept, so I decided to keep last year's issues, plus the current year and got rid of all the others. So that is progress.
At the end of the bed next to my blanket box, I had a crate with a variety of paperwork, mostly related to Cheery son, I weeded that a bit and transferred it into a box with a lid, so the crate has gone to the garage to be disposed of, yay! Slow but steady!
I also made a very happy discovery that some boxes, that I thought were mine were checked and they belong to the children and not to me, so I am pleased for me, but a bit unhappy in that I know they won't want to go through them. Perhaps a job for the Easter break!!
The top of my filing cabinet is now clear, but I keep discovering more stuff to sort, so I will go and do another hour.
Your children and grandchildren may have strong sentimental attachments to ornaments you’ve had since they were small. Please offer them the chance to take ones you’re planning to get rid of. (My mother trashed ours deliberately when she was in a snit with her husband, knowing it would cause pain to all of us—that was the point).
Yes, this is a good reminder; thank you.
I have overworked the shredder. I found three piles of Mr Puzzler’s business cards, with the current address and phone number, so they had to go.
An hour’s sorting is enough, for now.
I'm really pleased with this new one as it's got a micro cut, so it's cutting into very tiny pieces so getting more shredding into the bags for binning.
In between times, as the shredder is like my students who need a long rest between short bouts of work, I'm dealing with the three of my shopping trolleys full of old hymnbooks which came home from church which are about to meet their doom.
I've tried offering out the least disreputable books via local sources, to no avail, so I'm sorting out small sets (of about 30) which we may use occasionally, and the two sets of smaller books are just getting binned as they are pretty battered and bruised, in many cases were passed on to us by other churches, and owe us absolutely nothing. I'm just ripping out and shredding any identifying factors.
I am also muttering dark thoughts about my two predecessors as organist (both of whom did about 12 years each, and I'm now in my 13th year as organist in this place) who I do not thing ever got rid of anything not needed.
Why am I doing this at home, you may ask? It's warmer, and easier to be ruthless. Plus, the church bins haven't been emptied...
I don't know if it was that particular book, because I read a few at the time, but I remember being impressed by a strategy tidying for three quarters of an hour then taking a quarter hour break. It made the task seem possible, rather than overwhelming.
Good luck with it @ChastMastr.
We killed a shredder trying to get through things too quickly, @Japes, it was a shame we (well my kids), learnt the hard way!
I've not read any decluttering books, @ChastMastr, but have watched Marie Kondo a with my kids. I didn't take on board much of the sparking joy idea. For me it was about, is it still useful, or for clothes, does it fit? Would it be missed? Is there room for it? Does it belong to a stage of life that we are no longer in? That helped me get rid of a lot of things. I do hope though, that you find your book helpful, different things work for different people.
I remember a friend telling me about a book that helped her, where the lady started at the front door and just went room by room.
This week the magazines and books have gone and I can see a bit more floor, so that is good!
On the naughty side, I did see at my favourite auction house a very long but shallow bookcase that would be fabulous in my hallway. Cheery husband has not said a definite No, so there is still hope!! It would be good as I can hang paintings above it and make a nice group. We will see....
I did make a start on organising my art materials though. I appear to have 50 paintbrushes. Then I began going through a box of paper things and discovered 6 packs of playing cards, semi-used notebooks and a book of days belonging to my late MiL - at which point I retreated. Tidying is one thing, but coping with the memories evoked by objects is another.
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Changing-Manga-Tidying-Up-Magical/dp/0399580530
I made a fourth bookcase copying the professional ones to occupy another odd spot.
I was once a librarian, so have all the fiction shelved by author, within the three sizes. A bit to my annoyance, the larger sizes seem more popular with publishers now.
I've tried the Marie Kondo folding thing and while it makes drawers and cupboards look nice I can't keep it up and Life's Too Short.
We might be moving house this year so some decluttering will definitely be happening as time goes on.
You'd think I'd've learned by now that home shredders are not as sturdy as the workplace ones... but apparently not. On the other hand, the 4 bins (where the paper collected from the series of deceased shredders) make a useful paper sorting system in my music room.
At one stage, some of the shredding could be taken in to create work for some of my students who did shredding as what we called "an internal work placement" or as one of the units on their course, but that course no longer exists and those industrial shredders have been pensioned off.
Yes, i read it and found it very useful. The one bit that’s stayed (besides the “don’t blame yourself” advice) is about cleaning in 20 minute stints. I generally do this with my adult son who has OCD and has problems initiating change, but the twenty minute time limit (with an alarm) is short enough that he doesn’t hit major psych resistance to it. And we can do multiple 20s in a day if needed. One in a day is generally enough (with two people working) to keep the place habitable, though not lovely.
When the weather is warmer I need to do more sorting in the garage. There is now room to move in there, but still too much stuff.
I have made zero progress with my own stuff, these last two days, having discovered a new online game which has grabbed my attention.
I have celebrated this by finishing refurbishing a box camera, and attempting to fix two others. One of these is already at risk of defenestration as I am damned if I can work it why it isn't doing what it should.
I think it's ok @Puzzler to take a break every now and then from the decluttering, all work and no play .... my problem is I'd rather play than work!!
I did get the son to deal with some of his lego mess and he did some washing today and I got some vacuuming done. Daughter will work from home tomorrow, so I can't do any noisy jobs before mid afternoon, isn't that sad???
@Celtic Knotweed , we refer to our two 'studies' as playrooms. We don't do a great deal of study in them but do muck around with our hobbies.
However, there is a bit of light at the end of one tunnel. The NE Man has been in the habit of bring tea home from his travels, but then not drinking it. His tea collection has taken over too much cupboard space. I suggested a retirement hobby of a "tea of the week" and he is keen. This week's "tea of the week" is Earl Grey he bought in Boston.
Since we moved into this place in fall of 2020, I have had three waves of my parents' stuff come in - one when my mom moved into memory care and I cleaned out her apartment, one when she died and I cleaned out her room, and the last when I cleaned out all the stuff I put into storage when she went into memory care because the place where she lived wasn't allowing estate sales during the pandemic.
I have been working my way through this stuff in fits and starts, but now I need to be very serious about it!
Depends on the craft activities of course…
However much we may value stuff, (even if it has no value), we can be fairly sure that nobody else really does when left with it.
That sounds uncommonly grim. It must be 40+ years since I clawed my way on to the property ladder - a 'single end' which is to say two rooms and three cupboards containing variously a toilet, shower and kitchen. When I lost my job and depended on benefits I would put aside the amount for the mortgage and prioritised that above even food. To lose a home is to lose everything. I really hope you can find a secure rental.
I cleaned out a cupboard - why do I have so many bags?! - and got a start on a closet yesterday.
Let me get this straight, you have a new owner who wants to move into your apartment in less than 60 days. Doesn't the new owner have to honor your existing lease? I think I would consult a lawyer about this move (initial contacts to lawyers are usually free in my neck of the woods).
This week Cheery daughter is working from home so we need to keep noise down whilst she does so. Yesterday's task was the bathroom given a really good clean and a small paintbrush was my friend cleaning out the track for the shower door. The glass always stays pretty unspotty as we wipe with microfibre cloth after each shower, but basins and loo also given a good scrub. I think we have a limescale problem so I need to resolve that with the help of my favourite advice from Shannon who used to be a regular on local ABC with her tips and tricks with stains and cleaning.
I had thought about going around to clean up all my squished moths from the ceiling, but it's quite dull today and it's a job done more successfully when the light is brighter.
So, I think it's going to be a slow day, but I'll give myself a gold star for having changed one of the cat litter trays, I'll do the other tomorrow.
@Cheery Gardener, I'm not a Facebook person either, but I've easily given things away on Freecycle. I don't think anyone would pay money for most of the things I'll probably want to get rid of.
@Gramps49, it's completely legal; around here property management companies typically do a one-year lease that converts to month-to-month.
Fortuitously, I have found 20+ copies of the anthem we are about to learn for next Evensong.
Proposed by our new MD. First choir practice on Thursday, but we already know him as he has been playing the organ for Evensong for a few months.
My thoughts exactly, Sojourner - in fact, despite the mention of Attwood, I was still hearing the beginning of the Byrd in my mind's ear ...