Contemporary English Version
Is something happening to the CEV, specifically the CEV UK version? It has been my personal favourite over recent years and I used to access it online via the Bible Society as here https://www.biblesociety.org.uk/explore-the-bible/read/eng/GNB/Matt/1/.
However, it is no longer available on their website. I wrote to ask them why and was told that ‘their licence had expired’ which begs lots of questions.
Here are some possible reasons that occurred to me:
* cost of licence
* licence conditions no longer acceptable
* policy to promote GNB in preference
* some theological disagreement with translation style preferences (eg inclusive language) in the CEV that were previously acceptable but now are not
* potential doctrinal unacceptability of future revisions of CEV
There can't be that much wrong with the CEV as they are still selling printed copies. I’ve written to them for more clarification but await a reply.
I know the CEV is available on other online platforms, but I particularly wanted to use and support the Bible Society as it is British and not covered in adverts.
Anybody have any insight on this please?
However, it is no longer available on their website. I wrote to ask them why and was told that ‘their licence had expired’ which begs lots of questions.
Here are some possible reasons that occurred to me:
* cost of licence
* licence conditions no longer acceptable
* policy to promote GNB in preference
* some theological disagreement with translation style preferences (eg inclusive language) in the CEV that were previously acceptable but now are not
* potential doctrinal unacceptability of future revisions of CEV
There can't be that much wrong with the CEV as they are still selling printed copies. I’ve written to them for more clarification but await a reply.
I know the CEV is available on other online platforms, but I particularly wanted to use and support the Bible Society as it is British and not covered in adverts.
Anybody have any insight on this please?
Comments
In other words, blame it on the Americans.
That's a different translation?
As I understand it, the GNB is more preferred in GB than the CEV. Seems like the BFBS is opting for the more popular translation in GB. When funds are limited, choices have to be made, I think.
One thing going for the GNB is that the reading level is more year 7 level. CEV level is more year 5 level.
It may be that the British and Foreign Bible Society holds (or held) a license from the American Bible Society to produce (and hold copyright for) the Anglicized CEV. That may have been what was meant by “their license had expired.”
Even for the anglicised edition used in the UK — often called CEVUK or CEV (British Edition) — the copyright does not transfer to the British & Foreign Bible Society (BFBS).
BFBS helped produce and distribute the UK edition in the 1990s, but:
ABS retained full copyright
ABS controls licensing
ABS is the legal rights holder for all CEV editions worldwide
The anglicised CEV is considered a derivative edition of the original CEV text.
Under international copyright law (Berne Convention), derivative editions do not create new copyright ownership unless explicitly transferred — and ABS never transferred it.]
The CEVUK edition still says the copyright is held by ABS
This has shone a spotlight on how many of our English Bible versions have their copyright controlled by American organisations. I can find only these British-owned versions:
The Bible Society's notes about the Good News Bible serve as a illustrative warning
I don't like the idea that was are potentially vulnerable to commercially unreliable foreign control of availability.
Is it time to make sure we have British Bibles for British people?
Well, there is one, it's the Revised English Bible -- and I suspect any push to create another one would be much more sectarian.
I think the question is moot since the British Bible Society has replied to @Hotlips query: " Our licence to host the CEV on our website has expired, which meant we had to remove it from the site. We are currently reviewing our licences. "
BTW @Hotlips regards the KJV: This has long been in the public domain. I don't even think copyright laws were even around when it came out.
As a general principle, though, that is de facto unenforceable anywhere else, and under the various different copyright regimes in other legal jurisdictions it is out of copyright.
As you probably know copyright regimes vary from country to country both as to duration and what one can have copyright in. Usually, though, even where one jurisdiction recognises another jurisdiction's copyrights it will not do so in circumstances where copyright would either have expired or never existed if the item had been first published in its own jurisdiction. As you will also probably know, in most of the rest of the world copyright is 'the life of the writer + x years from death'. I understand, though, that in the USA it is usually a fixed period from date of first publication. I think it also might have to be registered in some way. So things can emerge from copyright in other countries while they are still in copyright where they first appeared, particularly since the 'x years' also varies from country to country.