@fineline I would definitely not consider myself to be better than others! I don't think that's an inherent part of snobbery. I may think that others have bad taste (in a purely aesthetic sense) but I don't think this says anything bad about them as a person, or anything superior about me as a person. I like the things I like because I think they're better - I wouldn't like them if I didn't think they were better. It's not because I think I'm better. I also think a lot of "traditional" churches have terrible taste, and I know many would also hate my taste (I love brutalist RC church buildings for eg and a more austere/monastic type of High Churchery as opposed to lots of tat - although I will say that when it's so tat-tastic it goes over into high camp I can appreciate it!).
By "not really church" I meant a service rather than a congregation/ekklesia. I would understand the word "church" as referring to both senses of the term so I should have been clearer. I don't think that every service needs to be a Eucharistic service - I am all for BCP Mattins and Evensong for eg, which are specifically non-Eucharistic - but equally I would not view a discussion group for eg (like the example given of Pub Church) as a church service. The whole of the service is (imo) supposed to be worship, not just any singing. I would be much more inclined to see a Quaker meeting for worship as a church service than Messy Church for example - and theologically speaking I am definitely Not a Quaker.
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Indeed it is, and so, to a lesser degree, is the Eucharist.
I was unfamiliar with this and looked it up. I was intrigued by
Can't recall many sermons delivered in adventurous ways myself. Clearly going to the wrong places.
By "not really church" I meant a service rather than a congregation/ekklesia. I would understand the word "church" as referring to both senses of the term so I should have been clearer. I don't think that every service needs to be a Eucharistic service - I am all for BCP Mattins and Evensong for eg, which are specifically non-Eucharistic - but equally I would not view a discussion group for eg (like the example given of Pub Church) as a church service. The whole of the service is (imo) supposed to be worship, not just any singing. I would be much more inclined to see a Quaker meeting for worship as a church service than Messy Church for example - and theologically speaking I am definitely Not a Quaker.