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Who cares?

Stercus TauriStercus Tauri Shipmate
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The post by @LambChopped in All Saints about the abduction by government thugs and apparent suicide of a refugee brought back the memory of a family of three who died after jumping from a high rise balcony in Glasgow about fifteen years ago. It has haunted me ever since, but thought it was a rarity. I looked it up to see if I had remembered right, and found this: https://www.migrantsorganise.org/three-years-on-has-anything-changed-since-the-death-of-alan-kurdi/, a long list of deaths while waiting or in custody.

We can demonstrate, we can write to our elected representatives, we can donate to refugee support organisations, we can even provide refuge if we are brave, but can we change anything? Who cares?

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  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2
    Well, you do, for a start - and there are lots of people like you, along with various support groups for migrants and refugees...but politicians?

    No, they don't appear to care, and neither do the filthy rich who own most of the land and money.

    Churches? Some care, and put that into practical terms, and it is to be hoped that this will increase in whatever future is left. As to changing the state of the world, I doubt if a great deal can be done at this stage, but it behoves those who care to carry on regardless.
  • LimentinusLimentinus Shipmate Posts: 8
    edited September 3
    The interest of a denomination or even a parish in 'difficult' issues remains situational, filtered through local and national custom and practice, budgetary approval and hierarchical priorities. In an increasingly secularised society, no denomination wants to damage their share of a diminishing and increasingly older congregation who are property rich but cash poor.
  • BurgessBurgess Shipmate Posts: 43
    What I seen is when people have bad things the other people don't know much and maybe they will be even nasty. Blame the victim. Think we got to teach people how to be kind maybe. Thats what I tell the kids.

    When our older kid got almost murdered it was like they gave us side eye blaming us. Bad things should not happen to good people and we must be bad because a bad thing happened. Some people said God's got a plan with the nearly murdered part of it. Which is totaly wrong. That one is still a good kid now adult and one of the best. This got me to quit being a lay reader because I got a hate on for too many church people after that and go into too drinking. Thats all over now, all sobered up. Good counsellors.

    Now we got the whole reserve and off reserve got burnt out houses from that forest fire and people are better with other people maybe because it is all of us. Don't know bout it. Think we got to teach people to be kind like I said.

    Maybe you don't know I live in the north Sask and Manitoba on the border mostly in Canada where we got status and non-status Indian people from Cree and Dene nations and Metis people. Me I am Metis so non status.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited 4:25AM
    Burgess wrote: »
    This got me to quit being a lay reader because I got a hate on for too many church people after that and go into too drinking. Thats all over now, all sobered up. Good counsellors.

    Out of curiousity, when you quit being a lay leader, did you stay in the church, or depart altogether?

    And after attaining sobriety(congrats, by the way) did you return to your previous religious involvement, or remain aloof?

    Now we Me I am Metis so non status.

    That's interesting. My mom grew up a minute or so away from the gravesite of Louis Riel. She wasn't Metis herself, though, but I think Riel is admired by Manitobans generally as well.
  • BurgessBurgess Shipmate Posts: 43
    edited 4:32PM
    Just stopped going. Don't know about return or aloof. Counsellor said okay to not know for whole of my life. So thats good. People who got all the right answers maybe don't know so well. Got sucked in by the smooth talking coyotes. Coyote says they are teacher but they can be tricking you and being too happy about how smart they are and making you do what they want. Got that from this counselor too.

    People ask me why not at church but maybe they only want to get you doing things for them. Leeches which is not nice to call them that but felt that way. One guy on here said simple is good. Like that alot.

    Pretty funny to get leeches and coyotes to have babies eh. Don't take too seriously and laugh more is one of my things I learned.

    Riel is old times. Did two rebellions for us. Lost both. Back to Batoche is good. CBC did this story https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/back-to-batoche-festival-métis-celebration-1.7589741
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