What is happening in Minnesota/Minneapolis

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  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    I think it is likely that if they don't move to impeach Trump there may not be another election in his life time.

    I'm saying "possibly" about just about everything these days rather than try to make predictions about what's likely because we have blown way past norms and precedents and so many things are in play. I keep thinking about the night in August 1789 when the French National Assembly started off voting for some things to pacify the revolting peasants and by morning had voted to abolish French feudalism, going much further than anyone had expected when they started. I don't know if we're at a point when something that extreme can happen, but again, I'm not predicting anything right now.

    Heather Cox Richardson (a professor of 19th-century American history at Boston College who has been discussing current events in the US with a long-term historical perspective for some years now) put out a video yesterday in which she says she thinks things really changed on Thursday, citing these developments:
    • The House voted to extend for three years the ACA enhanced healthcare premium subsidies, with more than a dozen Republicans voting yes.
    • The House probably will vote to overturn two Trump vetoes
    • The relevant county AG in Minnesota wants to charge the ICE agent who shot Renee Good (she doesn't note that the FBI is completely stimying a local investigation, but I guess it's the AG's intent that's interesting to her).
    • Spotify's stock dropped 10% in a month following complaints about the ICE recruitment ads they were accepting, and now they've pulled the ICE ads.
    • The Senate has agreed to move forward with war powers resolution vote on Venezuela (she notes that the horse of out of that barn, but again, it indicates a willingness to put a check on Trump's goons).
    • The Senate voted to hang the plaque honoring the officers injured in defense of the Capitol on Jan 6.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 9
    Ruth wrote: »
    The Senate has agreed to move forward with war powers resolution vote on Venezuela (she notes that the horse of out of that barn, but again, it indicates a willingness to put a check on Trump's goons).

    If we're talking about the same resolution, it passed a day or two ago, with Republicans Collins, Hawley, Murkowski, Paul, and Young voting along with the Democrats.

    From my knowledge, Paul was definitely to be expected, and probably Collins and Murkowski as well. Some Americans of my acquaintance were surprised that Hawley and Young voted yes.
  • March HareMarch Hare Shipmate Posts: 47
    Certainly those democratic governance structures which have the power to restrain the president need to start using it; otherwise, they are going to wake up one day soon and find they no longer have it.
  • ICE are basically the modern version of brownshirts.
    My thought precisely.

  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Ruth wrote: »
    The Senate has agreed to move forward with war powers resolution vote on Venezuela (she notes that the horse of out of that barn, but again, it indicates a willingness to put a check on Trump's goons).

    If we're talking about the same resolution, it passed a day or two ago, with Republicans Collins, Hawley, Murkowski, Paul, and Young voting along with the Democrats.

    They voted to advance a resolution, not on the resolution itself. There will be debate and another vote this next week. Two previous votes to advance a resolution have failed.
  • A perspective video of the shooting has been released. I assume they thought it would help them justify the situation, the woman in the car looks to be acting very calmly, and the ICE agent aggressively while using his phone to film.

    Vance and Co have declared the video proof positive that the agent feared for his life. It led me to remember the time someone here was praising his book as an example of social realism and not - as I contended - that of an unscrupulous grifter.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Ruth wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    Ruth wrote: »
    The Senate has agreed to move forward with war powers resolution vote on Venezuela (she notes that the horse of out of that barn, but again, it indicates a willingness to put a check on Trump's goons).

    If we're talking about the same resolution, it passed a day or two ago, with Republicans Collins, Hawley, Murkowski, Paul, and Young voting along with the Democrats.

    They voted to advance a resolution, not on the resolution itself. There will be debate and another vote this next week. Two previous votes to advance a resolution have failed.

    Ah, thanks.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Vance and Co have declared the video proof positive that the agent feared for his life. It led me to remember the time someone here was praising his book as an example of social realism and not - as I contended - that of an unscrupulous grifter.

    I'm speculating that was on the thread I had started a few years back, asking whether I should bother reading the copy I had purchased second-hand.

    That thread actually dissuaded me from reading the book(which I subsequently lost), though not due to criticism of its veracity, but rather because the discussion of the book's style and content made it sound like slice-of-life writing(eg. Tropic Of Cancer), a genre I really don't care for.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Renee's last words to the ICE agent that was filming the confrontation was, "That's all right, Dude, I am not mad at you." It also shows her turning away from the agents before the shots were fired. I do not see her hitting anyone with her vehicle.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    The most succinct and forthright commentary on this incident (and I saw @Ruth mentioned her) is by Heather Cox Richardson on Substack, Letters from an American. It seems that Renee Nicole Good was a legal observer: a volunteer trained to observe police conduct in case of future legal action. The irony...
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