The other thought that springs to mind: "they that take the sword shall perish with the sword". Kirk lived in the realm of stochastic terrorism and deniable incitement of political violence.
Laura Loomer had been attacking him in recent months, and accusing him of stabbing Trump in the back.
Over what issues?
Primarily not hewing closely enough to the Administration's line on Trump's association with Epstein.
The other thought that springs to mind: "they that take the sword shall perish with the sword". Kirk lived in the realm of stochastic terrorism and deniable incitement of political violence.
Laura Loomer had been attacking him in recent months, and accusing him of stabbing Trump in the back.
Over what issues?
Primarily not hewing closely enough to the Administration's line on Trump's association with Epstein.
Thanks.
And just to clarify, you mean that on the issue of Epstein and Trump, Loomer is nothing-to-see-here-folks, and was criticizing Kirk for supposedly being closer to a release-the-files position?
Asking, because I've actually seen people in the last few hours describing Kirk's position as nothing-to-see-here, or at least perceived as such by full-disclosure Republicans.
The other thought that springs to mind: "they that take the sword shall perish with the sword". Kirk lived in the realm of stochastic terrorism and deniable incitement of political violence.
Laura Loomer had been attacking him in recent months, and accusing him of stabbing Trump in the back.
Over what issues?
Primarily not hewing closely enough to the Administration's line on Trump's association with Epstein.
Thanks.
And just to clarify, you mean that on the issue of Epstein and Trump, Loomer is nothing-to-see-here-folks, and was criticizing Kirk for supposedly being closer to a release-the-files position?
Yes, that's correct. It's true that in the last few days he had changed his position, saying that he now trusted the administration - which might have also upset a different set of people.
Yes, that's correct. It's true that in the last few days he had changed his position, saying that he now trusted the administration
Yeah, the one X post about Epstein I saw from Kirk was saying that the signature on the birthday letter was a forgery.
- which might have also upset a different set of people.
A QAnon type angry that Republicans are supposedly covering up Trump's complicity in Epstein's crimes would be my most likely right-wing suspect for the assassin. Not that I think the odds are particularly great for the killer being right-wing.
A QAnon type angry that Republicans are supposedly covering up Trump's complicity in Epstein's crimes would be my most likely right-wing suspect for the assassin. Not that I think the odds are particularly great for the killer being right-wing.
I think the odds are pretty high, the right wing tends to be fissiparous in its own way. They'll very probably be right wing, but with a set of other non-coherent beliefs, because those are the kinds of people who become lone wolf assassins (see the Trump shooter).
Seems like America has crossed over a line with political assassinations. There were the two Democratic legislatures in Minnesota, the attempts on Pelosi, and Governor Whitmer of Michigan. The shooting up of the CDC building. I had said the shooting of Kirk was an example of the rats eating their own. Well...
Seems like America has crossed over a line with political assassinations. There were the two Democratic legislatures in Minnesota, the attempts on Pelosi, and Governor Whitmer of Michigan. The shooting up of the CDC building. I had said the shooting of Kirk was an example of the rats eating their own. Well...
Have we crossed a line? Or is this the continuation of a regular cycle in our history?
Assassinations and assassination attempts are nothing new in American politics and society, aside from Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy. Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Huey Long, George Wallace, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Robert F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, both Bill, and Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are just some of the assassination targets in a very long list from American history.
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Primarily not hewing closely enough to the Administration's line on Trump's association with Epstein.
It is my understanding the shooter is still at large, but one has to wonder if it is a matter of the rats eating their own.
When I first heard of the shooting, I had to wonder when Trump would be sending in the troops to revenge Kirk's demise.
AP reports the following exchange happened just before the shot:
Video shows Kirk had been taking questions from an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked.
Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.
Then a single shot rang out.
Thanks.
And just to clarify, you mean that on the issue of Epstein and Trump, Loomer is nothing-to-see-here-folks, and was criticizing Kirk for supposedly being closer to a release-the-files position?
Asking, because I've actually seen people in the last few hours describing Kirk's position as nothing-to-see-here, or at least perceived as such by full-disclosure Republicans.
Yes, that's correct. It's true that in the last few days he had changed his position, saying that he now trusted the administration - which might have also upset a different set of people.
Yeah, the one X post about Epstein I saw from Kirk was saying that the signature on the birthday letter was a forgery.
A QAnon type angry that Republicans are supposedly covering up Trump's complicity in Epstein's crimes would be my most likely right-wing suspect for the assassin. Not that I think the odds are particularly great for the killer being right-wing.
I think the odds are pretty high, the right wing tends to be fissiparous in its own way. They'll very probably be right wing, but with a set of other non-coherent beliefs, because those are the kinds of people who become lone wolf assassins (see the Trump shooter).
Assassinations and assassination attempts are nothing new in American politics and society, aside from Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy. Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Huey Long, George Wallace, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Robert F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, both Bill, and Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are just some of the assassination targets in a very long list from American history.