Essentially, being trans means that your sex assigned at birth is not the same as your gender. All nonbinary people can consider themselves trans since nobody is assigned nonbinary at birth. Not all of them do, but certainly nonbinary people are not cis (and genderfluid is a sub-category of nonbinary).
@AuspiciusofTrier it is easier nowadays for nonbinary people to access medical transition, I know many. Many trans people now are forced to go private for healthcare in the UK as waiting times are so long (and were very long even before the pandemic), and it seems to be easier via the private route than via NHS GICs, although that is still possible. I for instance was referred to my nearest GIC in February 2018 and still haven't been seen. Trans people are expected to put up with NHS waiting lists that simply nobody else is, and you cannot change your gender legally unless you have been diagnosed by a gender clinician.
A remarkably positive and gentle article in The Guardian about a trans woman who has been ordained in the C of E aged 63.
That is positive. I wonder if the Guardian is rethinking editorial attitudes after the outcry when it deleted a question and answer from an interview with queer historian Jules Joanne Gleeson and author Judith Butler. The excised passage in which Butler critiqued the 'anti-gender ideology movement' was reproduced on numerous sites within 24 hours.
There is a documentary about Caitlyn Jenner on Netflix. It's compassionate and revealing. I think it's fair to say that if young Bruce Jenner had had any gay friends, Caitlyn and Bruce's lives would have been very different. As it turned out, winning the Olympic decathlon, setting a world record, and marrying a Kardashian were part of an extraordinary effort to live as Bruce and cope with gender dysphoria. She mentions that she asked her pastor how God would judge her transition and never got an answer.
I was disappointed that one question that wasn't asked or answered is why she's still a fucking Republican.
A remarkably positive and gentle article in The Guardian about a trans woman who has been ordained in the C of E aged 63.
That is positive. I wonder if the Guardian is rethinking editorial attitudes after the outcry when it deleted a question and answer from an interview with queer historian Jules Joanne Gleeson and author Judith Butler. The excised passage in which Butler critiqued the 'anti-gender ideology movement' was reproduced on numerous sites within 24 hours.
This article was amended on 7 September 2021. One section of the Q&A was removed by editors because the interview and preparation of the article for publication occurred before new facts emerged regarding an incident at Wi Spa in Los Angeles. The consequent lack of reference in the relevant question to this development, in which an arrest was made for alleged indecent exposure at the spa, risked misleading readers and for that reason the section was removed. This footnote was expanded on 9 September 2021 to provide a fuller explanation.
That article is part of a series on Gender Now (link) in the Lifestyle Section, "A series exploring transgender life, identity and politics today" as the strapline has it. The most recent article is on 18th Century "female husbands" (quote marks are from the heading of the article):
The other article about the trans priest is part of a series on people starting new careers after 60.
I suspect the Guardian moved on a while ago. They and Suzanne Moore parted company some time in 2020, Suzanne Moore's take on it, from this November 2020 UnHerd article (link) was:
It is March 2020. For several months now I have been trying to write something — anything — about the so-called “trans debate” in my Guardian column. But if I ever slip a line in about female experience belonging to people with female bodies, and the significance of this, it is always subbed out. It is disappeared. Somehow, this very idea is being blocked, not explicitly, but it certainly isn’t being published. My editors say things like: “It didn’t really add to the argument”, or it is a “distraction” from the argument.
It was all over Twitter at the time. Suzanne Moore joining the ranks of those getting published in UnHerd, the Telegraph, Spectator and all, complaining all over Twitter and social media that they were being shut down.
@Soror Magna Gently said, but please try to avoid using people's deadnames. The theory is that those names are literally dead to us.
Everyone else, please try to be thoughtful about people. Attacking entire categories of people is not conducive to Epiphanies style discussion and tends to put people on the defensive.
Caitlyn actually used the name Bruce repeatedly in the documentary, which is something most trans people wouldn't do. She talked about Bruce when talking about her athletic career, and even said she honours him.
Which is very relevant: And yes if Caitlyn Jenner is fine with using her deadname in context of her athletic career, the rest of us may too. I still emphasize that respect means we should generally avoid deadnames. Most trans people consider those names truly dead. But Caitlyn Jenner often goes her own way.
Following on from the subject of deadnames, is there an issue with deadphotos?
Most people have collections of photos and videos showing their friends and relatives over the years. If one of your friends and relatives is a trans person, it it likely that you have photos and videos of them both before and after they publicly transitioned. It is also likely that those same photos and videos record significant personal and family moments, and you naturally want to preserve those memories - but those memories feature your trans friend / relative presenting themselves as the gender they were assigned at birth. Accepting that each individual is different, are there general rules about having photos of your trans person pre-public-transition on display?
Following on from the subject of deadnames, is there an issue with deadphotos?
Most people have collections of photos and videos showing their friends and relatives over the years. If one of your friends and relatives is a trans person, it it likely that you have photos and videos of them both before and after they publicly transitioned. It is also likely that those same photos and videos record significant personal and family moments, and you naturally want to preserve those memories - but those memories feature your trans friend / relative presenting themselves as the gender they were assigned at birth. Accepting that each individual is different, are there general rules about having photos of your trans person pre-public-transition on display?
Going by my relatives who are trans, I"d say ask before assuming.
My experience with my trans friends and relatives matches that but leans to they might well mind deadphotos. None of my trans friends appreciate deadphotos. B has a couple around digitally but only in her own space where she knows they won't surprise her at a vulnerable time. Similarly my relative's deadphotos have vanished, so I presume they don't like them.
The transwoman I know best occasionally posts deadphotos with her deadname on Facebook. She was* politically active in her twenties prior to transitioning, so I'm guessing that she's proud of, and doesn't want to lose, that part of her history.
Within our families most of us will have photos of members of our families at different times of their lives - as babies,as youngsters,asyoung adults.These are all part of our generl lives and capture important or less important parts of our life's journey. they are,however, not necessarily proper for display to the general public.
Looking at this in a more general way, think of what happens with wedding photos often proudly displayed in sitting rooms.If the marriage fails do not most people quietly put away the wedding photo ?
Looking at this in a more general way, think of what happens with wedding photos often proudly displayed in sitting rooms.If the marriage fails do not most people quietly put away the wedding photo ?
They do, but they probably wouldn't hide the photo of Grandma's 80th birthday, where the ex-spouse is part of a group being photographed. I suppose it's partly that kind of photo I was thinking about - not so much photos of the trans person alone (although many parents have photos of their adult kids as children about the place) but things that were more like "here's the last photo of all the grandkids gathered as a group with Grandma before she died" - and one of the grandkids has since publicly transitioned.
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@AuspiciusofTrier it is easier nowadays for nonbinary people to access medical transition, I know many. Many trans people now are forced to go private for healthcare in the UK as waiting times are so long (and were very long even before the pandemic), and it seems to be easier via the private route than via NHS GICs, although that is still possible. I for instance was referred to my nearest GIC in February 2018 and still haven't been seen. Trans people are expected to put up with NHS waiting lists that simply nobody else is, and you cannot change your gender legally unless you have been diagnosed by a gender clinician.
That is positive. I wonder if the Guardian is rethinking editorial attitudes after the outcry when it deleted a question and answer from an interview with queer historian Jules Joanne Gleeson and author Judith Butler. The excised passage in which Butler critiqued the 'anti-gender ideology movement' was reproduced on numerous sites within 24 hours.
I was disappointed that one question that wasn't asked or answered is why she's still a fucking Republican.
Being trans presumably doesn't mean you automatically start giving a shit about people other than yourself.
Here is the Guardian piece, as published (link) with a footnote explaining the removal of one Q&A (the rest is there, I've just compared them side by side):
That article is part of a series on Gender Now (link) in the Lifestyle Section, "A series exploring transgender life, identity and politics today" as the strapline has it. The most recent article is on 18th Century "female husbands" (quote marks are from the heading of the article):
The other article about the trans priest is part of a series on people starting new careers after 60.
I suspect the Guardian moved on a while ago. They and Suzanne Moore parted company some time in 2020, Suzanne Moore's take on it, from this November 2020 UnHerd article (link) was:
It was all over Twitter at the time. Suzanne Moore joining the ranks of those getting published in UnHerd, the Telegraph, Spectator and all, complaining all over Twitter and social media that they were being shut down.
Tigers. Faces.
Everyone else, please try to be thoughtful about people. Attacking entire categories of people is not conducive to Epiphanies style discussion and tends to put people on the defensive.
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Which is very relevant: And yes if Caitlyn Jenner is fine with using her deadname in context of her athletic career, the rest of us may too. I still emphasize that respect means we should generally avoid deadnames. Most trans people consider those names truly dead. But Caitlyn Jenner often goes her own way.
I'm assuming this is short for:
"I never thought the face-eating tiger would eat my face"?
said the woman who joined the "Tigers Eating People's Faces Party".
Yes
Most people have collections of photos and videos showing their friends and relatives over the years. If one of your friends and relatives is a trans person, it it likely that you have photos and videos of them both before and after they publicly transitioned. It is also likely that those same photos and videos record significant personal and family moments, and you naturally want to preserve those memories - but those memories feature your trans friend / relative presenting themselves as the gender they were assigned at birth. Accepting that each individual is different, are there general rules about having photos of your trans person pre-public-transition on display?
Going by my relatives who are trans, I"d say ask before assuming.
*and still is!
Looking at this in a more general way, think of what happens with wedding photos often proudly displayed in sitting rooms.If the marriage fails do not most people quietly put away the wedding photo ?
They do, but they probably wouldn't hide the photo of Grandma's 80th birthday, where the ex-spouse is part of a group being photographed. I suppose it's partly that kind of photo I was thinking about - not so much photos of the trans person alone (although many parents have photos of their adult kids as children about the place) but things that were more like "here's the last photo of all the grandkids gathered as a group with Grandma before she died" - and one of the grandkids has since publicly transitioned.