Today I Consign To Hell -the All Saints version

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  • Today I set about changing the water in my turtle's tank, and cleaning the filter. Only to discover when I had already emptied the tank that I had no hot water... only cold was coming out of the faucet. It was fine this morning, but now nothing, so I had to clean the filter in cold water, and refill the tank with cold (instead of warmish, room temperature) water. I just hope it doesn't injure my turtle.
  • Couldn't heat some on the stove?
  • Yeah, I shoulda'. Didn't think. It's a tough enough job just using the bathtub to fill the buckets.
  • Rats! I thought I had a mouse that I could not seem to catch. It would spring the trap but no mouse. Finally gave up and called pest control. They said it looked more like the work of a rat. There is chewed-up paper, and pieces of wood chewed. EEEEEEEE-- They set a lot of big ( enclosed dog proof) traps and will return in a few days to check them out. Meanwhile, I am living in our home knowing it most likely is also the home of a rat. I want to gag. My son had a pet white rat when he was little, he was sweet, but this is different.
  • Next door car alarm went off again. I was out so son #1 called police. Now we wait to see what, if anything happens.
  • NicoleMR wrote: »
    Yeah, I shoulda'. Didn't think. It's a tough enough job just using the bathtub to fill the buckets.

    I've been there.
  • Police showed up this morning with son-in-law of the homeowners and made him disconnect the car alarm. He then waited around and met up with a fourth estate agent (I know all this because we invited him to our place for coffee/loo etc).
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    Glad that's sorted @TheOrganist , and I hope the Estate Agent talked him into marketing the place at a sensible price.
  • Well this latest chap seems more sensible than the previous three: he came to see me to find out about the claimed rear access (doesn't exist), dates of works, etc. Time will tell if the homeowners see sense on price, or heed his advice to at least leave some residual heating on so the place doesn't get catastrophically damp.
  • Appointments in which humans do not talk to each other. I was referred to a specialist by my primary care doctor. I called the specialist for an appt. They said I needed a fax from the primary care doctor. I called my PCD they said they had sent a fax, but will resend it. Called specialist was told they did not have a fax and told not to call again they would call me when they received it. Waited a week, called anyway. They said no fax, I asked for the fax number to make double-check. I called pcd and checked the fax number. They said they would fax again and that was the number they had been using. Called specialist they are closed until Monday. Called to schedule blood test, long auto answer ending with press 7 to make appt. I press 7, the inhuman voice keeps saying press 7 I keep pressing 7 nothing is happening. I wait 10 minutes and try again, the same thing. Sigh..........When did human beings stop just talking to each other?
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    edited December 2021
    ... the governor of Missouri, who is hellbent on prosecuting a reporter who discovered that the state website for educators and their credentials *actually included social security numbers in the fucking HTML,* which were therefore visible to any ten-year-old with the ability to use the "inspect" feature on any browser. Including mine.

    The reporter did me and all educators a signal service by notifying the state so they could defuckify their website BEFORE he reported it in the local newspaper. That was in October or thereabouts?

    Since then, Governor Parsons has determined, in his infinite wisdom, that said reporter is a "hacker" and has tampered with state computers and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Despite the FBI advising him that he has no case, in studiously polite language that translates to "You are a fucking dipshit who knows absolutely crap-all about computers and how they work."

    And who was the fool who thought hard=coding people's SSNs into HTML was the way to go, anyway? Have they never heard of secure databases?

    *** this is the same governor who diverted COVID vaccines for months during the spring away from major metro areas of Missouri such as St. Louis and Kansas City, in favor of sending them to remote rural locations where there were not enough people to take the shots. This had nothing to do with punishing the Democratic voters in the urban areas, oh no. Nothing at all.
  • Lamb Chopped

    I really feel for you. I have never been in such a situation so I can't begin to feel the amount of frustration and annoyance you express, but I do so hope the situation is resolved sooner rather than later. The strength and sincerity of you as a person I very much respect and admire. I hope the papers will also do their best to get the best answer.
  • Appointments in which humans do not talk to each other. I was referred to a specialist by my primary care doctor. I called the specialist for an appt. They said I needed a fax from the primary care doctor. I called my PCD they said they had sent a fax, but will resend it. Called specialist was told they did not have a fax and told not to call again they would call me when they received it. Waited a week, called anyway. They said no fax, I asked for the fax number to make double-check. I called pcd and checked the fax number. They said they would fax again and that was the number they had been using. Called specialist they are closed until Monday. Called to schedule blood test, long auto answer ending with press 7 to make appt. I press 7, the inhuman voice keeps saying press 7 I keep pressing 7 nothing is happening. I wait 10 minutes and try again, the same thing. Sigh..........When did human beings stop just talking to each other?

    Fax?!?

    [Checks calendar]

    Do these people not have end to end encrypted secure email?
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Appointments in which humans do not talk to each other. I was referred to a specialist by my primary care doctor. I called the specialist for an appt. They said I needed a fax from the primary care doctor. I called my PCD they said they had sent a fax, but will resend it. Called specialist was told they did not have a fax and told not to call again they would call me when they received it. Waited a week, called anyway. They said no fax, I asked for the fax number to make double-check. I called pcd and checked the fax number. They said they would fax again and that was the number they had been using. Called specialist they are closed until Monday. Called to schedule blood test, long auto answer ending with press 7 to make appt. I press 7, the inhuman voice keeps saying press 7 I keep pressing 7 nothing is happening. I wait 10 minutes and try again, the same thing. Sigh..........When did human beings stop just talking to each other?

    Fax?!?

    [Checks calendar]

    Do these people not have end to end encrypted secure email?

    No. The NHS still relies on faxes for a ridiculous number of documents, as I found out when trying to get an emergency prescription in Matlock. Even better, the Welsh and English pharmacy systems do not talk to each other (well, one is in Welsh, I suppose...) I spent two days trying to sort out my tablets - my fault for leaving my own at home, of course, but not the best system in the world.
  • It would seem not in this USA medical group. I did finally get an appt. for a blood draw. The GP and Specialist are off for the holiday. I will try again Monday.

    @LambChopped, I have to agree what idiot thought it was a good idea in the first place? I am sure this feels very invasive and unsettling. I am sorry you have had this to deal with.
  • It's very kind of you folks. I'm not actually upset for myself--I doubt many people EXPECT government to make such dumb-ass moves and go inspecting the code to see what they can find--so my personal details are likely safe. (though they will have been there for up to six years, grrrrr). But I'm very much pissed off at the governor, who seems unbearably stupid/corrupt and who can't leave soon enough, given the damage he's doing to people's lives.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Appointments in which humans do not talk to each other. I was referred to a specialist by my primary care doctor. I called the specialist for an appt. They said I needed a fax from the primary care doctor. I called my PCD they said they had sent a fax, but will resend it. Called specialist was told they did not have a fax and told not to call again they would call me when they received it. Waited a week, called anyway. They said no fax, I asked for the fax number to make double-check. I called pcd and checked the fax number. They said they would fax again and that was the number they had been using. Called specialist they are closed until Monday. Called to schedule blood test, long auto answer ending with press 7 to make appt. I press 7, the inhuman voice keeps saying press 7 I keep pressing 7 nothing is happening. I wait 10 minutes and try again, the same thing. Sigh..........When did human beings stop just talking to each other?

    Fax?!?

    [Checks calendar]

    Do these people not have end to end encrypted secure email?

    No. The NHS still relies on faxes for a ridiculous number of documents, as I found out when trying to get an emergency prescription in Matlock. Even better, the Welsh and English pharmacy systems do not talk to each other (well, one is in Welsh, I suppose...) I spent two days trying to sort out my tablets - my fault for leaving my own at home, of course, but not the best system in the world.

    I work in NHS IT. Every single person employed by the NHS (including GPs who are contracting their services) has access to end to end encrypted Email. There's really no excuse.

    They should not rely on faxes - they shouldn't even be using them. Unfortunately some people refuse to update their processes. It's a problem because fax is inherently insecure; there's no saying who reads the document that squirts out the other end into a tray.

    Our hearts sink when someone asks how they can send or receive a fax (we have no fax machines at our offices) and the answer is always "email it" or "get them to email you" so we are doing our bit to drag people into the 21st century.
  • AravisAravis Shipmate
    It’s only in the last few months that health professionals in Wales have finally been able to email a referral form to the wheelchair service. Until then it was a paper form that had to be completed by hand and posted.

    I did ring them early in 2021 to query this, and had a polite discussion of effective use of senior therapists’ time and the undesirability of visiting offices during a pandemic simply to collect or post forms. Did they use email, I asked? Yes, they did. Could I email a form? No. Why was this? Long pause and consultation with supervisor. Then they gave me an address to which I could scan and email one of their forms, as long as I didn’t tell anyone else what the email address was.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited January 2022
    Aravis wrote: »
    It’s only in the last few months that health professionals in Wales have finally been able to email a referral form to the wheelchair service. Until then it was a paper form that had to be completed by hand and posted.

    I did ring them early in 2021 to query this, and had a polite discussion of effective use of senior therapists’ time and the undesirability of visiting offices during a pandemic simply to collect or post forms. Did they use email, I asked? Yes, they did. Could I email a form? No. Why was this? Long pause and consultation with supervisor. Then they gave me an address to which I could scan and email one of their forms, as long as I didn’t tell anyone else what the email address was.

    We're constantly up against this sort of crap. I can only conclude its some kind of passive-aggressive punch-back by technophobe managers who've been forced kicking and screaming to use modern technology.

    They're probably the people who are always overworked because they're using applications terribly inefficiently but when you explain they could do the job in a quarter of the time if they learnt a few things like XLOOKUP they complain they haven't the time to learn this sort of stuff...

    The reality is they are either intimidated by technology, or feel superior to "those geeky nerds" by which they mean anyone who knows anything about IT.
  • Here, they claim it is legal. The doctor's or nurse practitioner's signature is legally accepted on a faxed prescription. Our region has just gone digital and while it's quick, there is still a paper copy of almost everything.
  • Lily Pad wrote: »
    Here, they claim it is legal. The doctor's or nurse practitioner's signature is legally accepted on a faxed prescription. Our region has just gone digital and while it's quick, there is still a paper copy of almost everything.

    I was told the same. Digital signatures seem not to be accepted.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited January 2022
    Lily Pad wrote: »
    Here, they claim it is legal. The doctor's or nurse practitioner's signature is legally accepted on a faxed prescription. Our region has just gone digital and while it's quick, there is still a paper copy of almost everything.

    I was told the same. Digital signatures seem not to be accepted.

    This what we IT types find so frustrating - a faxed signature is digital!

    I appreciate it takes time to adjust procedures and policies to new tech but email has been in common use for thirty years - how long do people need?
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited January 2022
    Yes, but it’s harder to effectively capture and put onto another document without detection. Whereas I can print screen a word document into image software, crop the signature and drop it into any other document.

    Photocopying a faxed signature would be fairly obvious because of the colour changes from repeated scanning or photocopying,
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited January 2022
    Boris Johnson sent the whole NHS a digital letter with his signature, tempting …
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited January 2022
    Yes, but it’s harder to effectively capture and put onto another document without detection. Whereas I can print screen a word document into image software, crop the signature and drop it into any other document.

    Photocopying a faxed signature would be fairly obvious because of the colour changes from repeated scanning or photocopying,

    And I can scan a form, insert a signature from a screen capture and reprint it to fax just as easily. The security argument doesn't hold up, not after all this time.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited January 2022
    Less people know how to do that, but I accept the security issue of not knowing who actually got the fax is significant. We don’t use them any more.
  • LouiseLouise Epiphanies Host
    Today I consign to Hell or at least Heck, the local community gardening group who put up a greenhouse which managed to be both flimsily built and heavy enough to be dangerous - both at the same time - in the old burial ground behind our house. It's now smashed into our wall like a wrecked dirigible, panes of whatever heavy plastic they used were flapping off with noises like thunder all night keeping me awake and I kept wondering if a metal spar would get driven through a window...

    To add to our joys they were all uncontactable and the council to whom the ground belongs disclaimed all knowledge despite the fact they maintain it. Their parks people don't come back till Wednesday and we're due gusts up to 37mph before then which is what dashed it to bits ​in the first place.

    It's too heavy for even two people to move and now crammed up against the bedroom window. Oh joy!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Crikey! Surely if it does any damage to your house the Council's insurers would have to cough up?
  • LouiseLouise Epiphanies Host
    edited January 2022
    I'd hope so. I just don't want it to put out a window! Thankfully we've managed to raise the gardeners who'll be back tomorrow and who I'm now starting to feel a bit sorry for (all their work assembling it - lucky it didn't have any poor plants in it!) so fingers crossed it doesn't take off and damage things before they get here and we can have a proper check once it's safely out the way. But marauding greenhouses - there's a problem I didn't expect...
  • We get marauding trampolines around here. And gazebos, occasionally.
  • My neighbour downstairs, who, together with her daughter, is currently living with her fairly recently widowed mother. Whoever she's moved in downstairs is not only a stoner but has done something to the flat downstairs that means we are having to suffer their nasty habit. We did hear a lot of crashing and building type work when they first arrived. And a row with the real tenant when she saw it.

    I am so not a fan of sleeping with wide open windows (and the heating off) in January to be able to breathe. Nor am I at all impressed that after four years of damn hard work and gradual improvements, my daughter is getting worse again. (She's anaphylactic allergic to cannabis. I'm asthmatic and can't cope with the cigarette smoke.)

    As the current tenant is not present to talk to, I have, #sorrynotsorry, just filed a repair request to the housing association, requesting that whatever means my flat is filling with smoke is fixed and effectively grassing her up. (Normally, I make sure I see her and have a quiet word, but she's not been around.)

    I suspect the occupant is a fairly unpleasant piece of work she was seeing a few years back, because we had a degree of second hand cannabis smoke arriving when he was around, not in the current waves, but whoever is there is keeping a very low profile. If we weren't living in this noxious cloud I wouldn't know they were there.
  • Good thing you have that option - I was thinking police, fire service and EHO. (I had to block the vent in my bathroom at the last place when a social housing neighbour used her bathroom for smoking to keep it from her child - but at least I knew where it was coming from, and it was only tobacco.)
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I know this might seem like stating the bleedin' obvious, Curiosity, but would moving - anywhere - be an option?

    If you're in a Council or Housing Association flat, would your daughter's illness get you further up the queue for a move?
  • Not easily, unfortunately - we could exchange, but with the number of consultants she's seeing that could cause more problems than it solves. And the problem with housing association properties are that the proportion of neighbours who smoke are likely to be higher.
  • LouiseLouise Epiphanies Host
    edited January 2022
    Is an air purifier too expensive? They're useful to have for other reasons in the current pandemic and might be cheaper than moving.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    TICTH online clothes sizes. Having bought in the last few months some "oversized" clothes in the size I would normally wear (which is usually generous - I like my clothes loose), only to find that they were far too small, I ordered a top from a firm called Lagenlook which looked very much my thing. It too was described as "oversized", but I took no chances, and ordered the "pair" of sizes (they came in sizes like 14-16, 18-20, 22-24 and so on) that was my size and the next size up.

    I could go camping in it, and probably have room for a friend. I'm going to send it back, and have the pleasure of ordering something two sizes smaller than I normally would.

    Which will probably be too small ... :frowning:
  • I know the feeling, I like lagenlook style clothes but you do have to check out the seller. Generally clothes labelled ‘lagenlook’ (it is a style not just a brand) are oversized as it is German for ‘layered look’ and generally designed for fuller figures. You can find similar clothes in this style on eBay by searching for lagenlook. However, beware of sellers of Chinese-made lagenlook styles, as these are much smaller, especially in the bust and arms, and the sizes don’t match European ones.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    TICTH online clothes sizes. Having bought in the last few months some "oversized" clothes in the size I would normally wear (which is usually generous - I like my clothes loose), only to find that they were far too small, I ordered a top from a firm called Lagenlook which looked very much my thing. It too was described as "oversized", but I took no chances, and ordered the "pair" of sizes (they came in sizes like 14-16, 18-20, 22-24 and so on) that was my size and the next size up.

    I could go camping in it, and probably have room for a friend. I'm going to send it back, and have the pleasure of ordering something two sizes smaller than I normally would.

    Which will probably be too small ... :frowning:

    I got a tent last week too! Washed it in the hopes of shrinking--nothing doing. I shall have to find a deserving boy scout troop.
  • I have the same problem. Mr. Image does not, it seems to be a women's fashion thing.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    If only there were some kind of objective measurement method, we could call them "centimetres" or "inches" or something like that, that could be used for sizing clothes instead of arbitrary numbers.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited January 2022
    Can I just CTH rain? Although it was nice for much of yesterday, it would be nice to have one whole day without rain. PS It's raining now.
  • In theory dress patterns do just that - the sizes give the measurements that the pattern will fit, with a bit of wearing ease. However, past and bitter experience tells me that unless I actually measure the pattern pieces I may well spend several hours making something that will theoretically fit, only to find that I can grab handfuls of fabric where it should be fitting, as there's been 4"-6" of ease added in across the pattern range. Which when that shirt pattern is to fit someone with a 60" bust is reasonable, but is really rather too much when it's supposed to be fitting someone else with a 32" bust - 6-10% ease as against 12.5-19% ease.

    My daughter made a pair of trousers that were theoretically for a 24" waist (sorry, Japanese pattern in imperial) recently: fitted waisted trousers, baggier on the hips, almost like jodhpurs. It was something she wanted to try and if they didn't work on her she was going to offer them to a friend who's a similar size. The eventual trousers she could put on over her jeans and hooded sweatshirt - I reckon the made garment actually fitted a 30" waist. They do fit a neighbour, who is very pleased with them.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Can I just CTH rain? Although it was nice for much of yesterday, it would be nice to have one whole day without rain. PS It's raining now.

    Snowing here :)
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    KarlLB wrote: »
    If only there were some kind of objective measurement method, we could call them "centimetres" or "inches" or something like that, that could be used for sizing clothes instead of arbitrary numbers.

    Too right!

    Actually, I should be consigning myself to Hell - it wasn't random sizing - it was one size (a fact I'd forgotten in the interim between ordering and receipt).

    That's all very well, but one size doesn't exactly work when you're catering for sizes 16-36.

    There doesn't even appear to be a return label - just a space where it appears to have been removed.

    At least it wasn't expensive - I suppose it'll have to go to Oxfam.

  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Can I just CTH rain? Although it was nice for much of yesterday, it would be nice to have one whole day without rain. PS It's raining now.

    We've now had several days this week with a bit of rain and woken this morning to steady summer rain, not just here, but west of the ranges as well. Ruins peoples holidays, but great to get mid-season if you're on the land.
  • Wesley JWesley J Circus Host
    TICTH FedEx - again. This time I checked on some search engines, and their customer service ratings of FedEx are all abysmal.

    Quite right. For about the 3rd or 4th time in a row, they left a We Called But You Were Out Card when I wasn't around. So far, so good. However, as always, I call one of their customer service people (as advised on the card) on the same afternoon, and they agree on delivery for the following day, morning, at around the same time as the day before. But I don't trust them: early in the morning, I check on their tracking site, and it still says Delivery Pending. Oh no, it isn't - I've spoken to one of your customer service reps and they scheduled it for today!

    So I ring them again as soon as they open today, another rep says, oh, we didn't receive any message from you yesterday - yes, they did! - , and there's nothing in the system. Well, I can see that myself, can't I. She says she is going to send the depot an e-mail, asking for re-delivery today. I would see it on their website. And no, they at FedEx never send any track-and-trace e-mails to parcel recipients (DHL and others do), you have to look that up yourself on their site, it's the way the work. (Or don't?)

    They even had the gall to put a sticker on their card saying, this is the final attempt at delivery! Which I'm sure it wasn't, but still.

    I so wish for a 'He's behind you'. but he isn't, he's still in the bleeding depot, or he is en route, but without my parcel!

    FedUpEx! :angry:
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    We have had more rain than usual this summer, but I prefer that to days where the temperatures are in the high twenties or early thirties, Of course I don't have children who are having their school holidays spoiled. My mother always claimed that keeping 4 children entertained over a two week school holiday when it rained everyday was a huge challenge to her sanity,
  • Piglet wrote: »
    Actually, I should be consigning myself to Hell - it wasn't random sizing - it was one size (a fact I'd forgotten in the interim between ordering and receipt).

    That's all very well, but one size doesn't exactly work when you're catering for sizes 16-36.

    There doesn't even appear to be a return label - just a space where it appears to have been removed.

    At least it wasn't expensive - I suppose it'll have to go to Oxfam.

    I meant to reply to this yesterday: better to Oxfam than as a return, Going to Oxfam, there's a chance it may get used again rather than go straight into landfill, which is what happens to most returns, see here. That knowledge stops me buying online now, if at all possible, other than straight replacements.
  • I seem to be one of the lucky ones when buying clothes online, as I've never ended up with something that doesn't fit...

    Should that ever occur, my initial reaction would be *charity shop*, as the hassle of re-packing the thing, and going to the Po Stoffis, is rather off-putting, whereas I can park right outside our local Oxfam's front door!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    That's my view as well, BF - Oxfam is just along the road, and Cancer Research on the other side of the High Street.

    I rather resent spending £££ and having nothing to show for it though!
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