Heaven 2023: September book group: The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Bronte

TukaiTukai Shipmate
edited January 2024 in Limbo
Once again, we’re first with the latest, though this time with a book that was once banned in Britain!, namely The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Bronte, first published in 1846. At that time it was regarded as "scandalous" because it was a bit too frank about domestic violence in that era, even (or especially) in aristocratic circles.

Perhaps because of this, Tenant was nevertheless a best-seller, with a second edition following later in the same year, before her surviving sisters suppressed the book , thus keeping it out of the public eye for most of the next hundred years. Without giving too much away, it is worth noting that the novel is set in the 1820s, a time when the husband had absolute legal control of her money and the children of the marriage.

As our DiL is due to give birth sometime this month, both Mrs T and I may be otherwise occupied later this month. Therefore I will post questions for discussion (which I pre-prepared in 1946 ) earlier than happened in August

And let me add my thanks to Caissa for accepting the task of overseeing this discussion group from 2024.

Comments

  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I'm looking forward to reading this, thanks for suggesting it @Tukai.
  • I am about pickup a copy of our campus library. I will get to commenting on the August book soon. Things are very busy here with classes starting next Wednesday.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I'm looking forward to reading this, thanks for suggesting it @Tukai.
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    I started reading early and have finished the book. I'm looking forward to the discussion.
  • I have just downloaded this from our public library through the Libby app. I'm quite pleased to be able to join in this month.
  • I’ve dug out my copy and will endeavour to join in.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I've never read this one so if time permits I will try to read it and join in!
  • The one I was reading had tiny print. Fortunately, Ms. C. owns a copy that is 12pt.
  • Almost halfway through reading it. I am enjoying this period piece much more than I thought I would.
  • Yes, the story has a more modern feel than some other Bronte novels. One could imagine it being set in a society like today's Hollywood.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Can't believe I have never read this -- I think I had it confused with Anne Bronte's Agnes Grey. It is unputdownable.
  • Easily confused; 50+ years ago I received a school prize in the form of a book which combined both novels. Even at 13 I found both un-putdownable
  • I have just under 150 to go. I am reading it in 50 page spurts.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Just a quick heads-up for anyone like @Caissa who might have small print difficulties or want to start reading right away, The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is available free to read on Project Gutenberg here.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Oh, thank you very much @MaryLouise - really helpful!
  • Thanks, Mary Louise. Ms. C founding a larger copy in our living room. I have 25 pages left to read.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I just finished it this morning, and am looking forward to the discussion.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I’m about a third of the way through. What a great suggestion for the book club. Looking forward to the discussion.
  • Finished the book on Saturday.
  • Here, before I get called away on family business, are some questions that can start a discussion. I don't expect anyone to attempt all of them; fell free to choose whichever appeal to you.



    * Most contemporary reviews of this book described it as scandalous and particularly unfit to be read by ladies. Were those reviewers right to condemn it so fervently? Does it still elicit such a reaction? Consider particularly the treatment of wives by some of the “gentry” described..
    • Nevertheless Tenant sold like hot cakes until suppressed – presumably with most sales to young ladies who did not want to be left in ignorance of the ways of the world, from which the customary upbringing at the time left them in blissful ignorance. The possible consequences of this are illustrated the central character, Helen Graham, who falls into her disastrous marriage ignorant of the ways of some men, especially of “gentlemen” of her time, despite the warnings of her aunt. Are women (e.g. most women in your country) too wise in the ways of the world to do so now?
    • Child rearing practices in rich households of the time. Compare those of young Arthur (in his father’s and in his mother’s household) with Helen’s sheltered upbringing. Other examples in the book?
    • The book is set before the passing of the Married Women’s Property Act, which inhibited at least some of the abuses described in Part 2 of the book. Are you aware of , or lived in a country or society , where women still effectively lose control of their property and any subsequent children to their husband on marriage?
    • To what extent do you think the author’s brother Branwell – who died of alcoholism, and conspicuously failed to be the earner of the family that he was expected to be - was the model for the dissolute set of “gentlemen”? [IRL, by his affair with mistress of the house, he got Emily dismissed from her employment, and she the only one in the siblings to earn any substantial income outside of their writing].

    • How do the famous books by the other Bronte sisters compare to this one in your view, particularly Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte and Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. (Note that their reception at the time was rather different to how they look now.) Isn’t it amazing how action-packed these books are compared to the quiet country parsonage in the “middle of nowhere” where they lived?
    • This story (Tenant) has a more modern feel, at least to me, than some other Bronte novels. Do you agree? Can you think of any relatively recent parallels either in fiction (including films) or in real life?

    • What did you think of the style of writing of this book – both the prose style and the way the plot became clear?
    • Were the author’s sisters right to suppress this book as soon as they could? Why?
    • Did any of the minor characters make any impression on you and/or contribute much to the novel, perhaps even a humourous grin or two? Consider those in the village and those in the ‘dissolute’ set, as you fancy.
    Tenant was Anne Bronte’s second book. Have any of you read her first, Agnes Grey ? How does it compare with this one?
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I’m only about half way through so will comment later about the plot etc, but I agree it has a more modern feel than a lot of 19th century novels. I think it’s because the characters don’t seem like cardboard cut out villains or heroes but seem like real people with a mixture of good and bad.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    edited September 2023
    I found myself wondering if Anne Bronte had set out to write one kind of novel and had another break out. As Sarasa says, the story is more realist than gothic: the male narrator Gilbert is not Byronic even if he has a nasty temper. He comes across as immature, endearing, a bit dim when it comes to reading character and in search of a woman to challenge his assumptions.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Most contemporary reviews of this book described it as scandalous and particularly unfit to be read by ladies. Were those reviewers right to condemn it so fervently? Does it still elicit such a reaction?

    I think the fact that this novel was considered shocking is fairly illustrative of how both society and literature have changed in 200 years. Helen's marriage is unhappy and her husband is a jerk, but there's absolutely nothing either in the events of the novel or the (very very tame) way in which they are depicted, that would shock a modern reader.

    Even knowing the sensibilities of the time, I expected that the book's "scandalous" reputation meant that there would be some hint of physical violence in the marriage, but there wasn't. Helen's husband drinks too much, goes away for long periods of time, isn't very nice to her when he is at home, has an affair with one of their acquaintances, and eventually hires a "governess" for their son whom he has installed as a live-in mistress. Not a nice guy or a good marriage even by 21st century standards, but hardly the appalling depths of depravity that its reception at the time would warrant. I guess the point is just that these things were happening but nobody was writing about them?

    To what extent do you think the author’s brother Branwell – who died of alcoholism, and conspicuously failed to be the earner of the family that he was expected to be - was the model for the dissolute set of “gentlemen”?

    Oh yes, I'll bet Branwell was a significant inspiration (not in the good way) for the young men in this book. Has anyone else read Dark Quartet by Lynne Reid Banks, a biography of the Bronte siblings? I read it at an impressionable age and it gave a very vivid portrayal of Branwell's life and death and the distress he caused his sisters.

    How do the famous books by the other Bronte sisters compare to this one in your view, particularly Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte and Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte.... Were the author’s sisters right to suppress this book as soon as they could? Why?

    By my modern-lady-reader standards, this book is actually far less "shocking" than either Charlotte's or Emily's best-known novels. Helen is married to an awful man, but she quickly understands that he's awful, falls out of love with him, and spends most of the rest of the book trying to get away from him. In Jane Eyre, Rochester is objectively a pretty terrible guy, and the "happy ending" is Jane marrying him! And while Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights is not presented as a romantic ideal by the plot, the language used to describe Cathy's attraction to him has left generations of readers feeling like it is a romance, albeit one that can only be satisfied by both the lovers being united in death.

    By contrast, The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is about a young woman who makes a poor choice in marrying an unsuitable man, is unhappy, sensibly leaves him, and then, when she is freed by his death (the only way she would be seen as free to respectably marry again in that society), marries a much nicer man and is finally happy. If you compare it to Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights, it's by far the least psychologically disturbing of the three.

    I have more thoughts and will come back to some of the other questions in a bit, but I did want to weigh in first on the idea of the book being so "shocking" it its day. It's actually a bit ridiculous to me that Charlotte and Emily tried to suppress this book, when it's (IMHO) much less disturbing than their own books.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    edited September 2023
    I'm in agreement with @Trudy that The Tenant of Wildfell Hall isn't shocking to contemporary readers -- we know so much now about addiction, intimate partner abuse and marital conflicts that the content is familiar. And it has a happy ending.

    Though there is one chilling moment that made me stop and think I would expect to read this in a novel written in 2023 and not the 19th century. Milicent Hattersley is being bullied and tormented by her husband in front of friends and she says to him:

    “Do let me alone, Ralph! Remember, we are not at home.

    “No matter: you shall answer my question!” exclaimed her tormentor; and he attempted to extort the confession by shaking her, and remorselessly crushing her slight arms in the gripe of his powerful fingers.


    That 'Remember, we are not at home' goes to the heart of intimate partner abuse and what men get away with behind closed doors.

    I have been thinking too about how shocking it would seem for a Victorian upper-middle class society in which marriage was everything for a woman if she was to have status, respectability, children, security, to read about Helen Huntingdon closing her bedroom door to her furious drunken husband. Such topics back then would have seemed coarse and unseemly, dirty linen not to be aired in public.

    The case of Caroline Norton as a social reformer is pertinent here too and Anne Bronte would have read about it:

    Caroline married George Norton in 1827, and the marriage was marked by his outbursts of violence. Finally, in 1836, George removed their three children to another house and barred Caroline from entering. He then sued Lord Melbourne for “criminal conversation” with his wife–this essentially meant that he was accusing Lord Melbourne of alienating his wife’s affections and committing adultery with her. Although George quickly lost the case, the Norton marriage could not be dissolved and George could continue to deny Caroline access to her children. Caroline helped advocate for the passage of the 1839 Custody of Infants Act, which granted mothers custody of children under the age of seven and access to children under the age of sixteen. Tragically, one of Caroline’s children died in an accident before her husband would allow her to see them.

    It's worth remembering that women and children were the legal property of fathers and husbands. Men could exercise absolute power over daughters and wives: Jane Eyre’s Rochester has determined his wife is mad, locked her up, and taken control of all of her property. She is presented as dangerous, violent and an arsonist. However, it is not a board of doctors or a court which has ruled on her condition and treatment, but rather her husband alone who has decided to hide her away. Although the novel questions Rochester’s judgment in attempting a bigamous marriage with Jane, no-one questions his legal right to dispose of his existing wife as he chooses (except her brother).

    @Tukai mentioned the Married Women's Property Act of 1870 which gave limited rights to married women as regards their inheritances or property. The Matrimonial Causes Act of 1923 allowed women to initiate divorce – previously only men could divorce their wives. The Domestic Violence and Matrimonial Proceedings Act 1976 acknowledged domestic violence and allowed women to be able to get restraining orders against abusive partners. Marital rape was only recognised in law in UK in 1992 and ratified in 2003.

    Mrs Graham's efforts to escape from her husband are quite desperate and she is in hiding. Only her brother Frederick is able to help her and he has to do so surreptitiously.

    It's worth noting too that although the final decline of John Huntingdon is probably based on Branwell, Anne Bronte drew on memories of her dissolute employer Mr Robinson at Thorp Green hall and his circle of friends, all gamblers, drunkards and laudanum addicts. The nature of addiction was not understood as we would think about it now. Only in 1935 does Alcoholism Anonymous argue that substance dependency is not a moral failing but an illness.



  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    edited September 2023
    I finished the book today and will comment more fully when I’m back home and in front of a computer.
    I think I can see why it was thought shocking and that is because the men in this seem so ordinary unlike Rochester and Heathcliff. Therefore it would have been much easier to imagine this happening in one’s own life or that of your friends.
  • I think @Sarasa and @MarieLouise are right about why the sisters were so keen to see the book banned. Unlike the sisters' novels, which are for the most part over-the-top and 'gothic" , Tenant hit very close to the bone . * Which is why it still seems so pertinent today - though in most 'civilised' countries today, a battered wife can legally just leave, some husbands (especially some coming from more 'traditional' societies) do pursue with deadly intent.

    (*) The all-too-realistic depiction of the cruel school in Jane Eyre is another example of horrific realism, but schools were an institution more open to discussion at that time than marriage.
  • MaryLouise wrote: »
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    @Tukai mentioned the Married Women's Property Act of 1870 which gave limited rights to married women as regards their inheritances or property. The Matrimonial Causes Act of 1923 allowed women to initiate divorce – previously only men could divorce their wives. The Domestic Violence and Matrimonial Proceedings Act 1976 acknowledged domestic violence and allowed women to be able to get restraining orders against abusive partners. Marital rape was only recognised in law in UK in 1992 and ratified in 2003.
    ...

    Actually English women could initiate divorce before 1923 but they had to prove both adultery plus some other offense (e.g., desertion, cruelty) by her husband. The husband need prove only adultery by his wife. It was also not unknown, if both in the marriage wanted out, for the husband to take the blame since it was less socially damaging for him to be considered guilty (and frequently the evidence was created). One set of my great grandparents were divorced in 1918 this way with him taking the blame.

    1857 was the previous big change when the law changed to effectively allowed civil courts to handle divorce in the first place (prior to that you had to get a private bill past parliament to allow a divorce which required quite a bit of money and connections). Scottish law was different.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    @Net Spinster your great-grandfather was obviously a gentleman! Thanks for the qualifying note. In practice, unless a woman could afford private detectives or a lawyer, divorce was out of the question.

    Social ostracism too was such a powerful force ensuring women stayed compliant or silent. The rumours about the mysterious Mrs Graham and her son Arthur who bears a close resemblance to the new gentleman visitor in the village are like a whisper campaign to shame her into leaving.
  • Given the novel takes place prior to 1857 it would take money and probably influence. According to some sources the first successful divorce initiated by a woman, 1801, was that of Jane Addison from her husband on the grounds of adultery with her sister (this was considered incest since English law at the time did not permit marriage with your dead wife's sister, ordinary adultery would not have been sufficient). It helped she had relatives who were MPs and that her sister's husband was divorcing her sister. Apparently 3 other women successfully got divorces via Parliament before the 1857 act (out of a total of 193 divorces between 1800 and 1857): Louisa Turton in 1831 for incestuous adultery of her husband with her unmarried sister; Mrs Battersby in 1840 for bigamous adultery, she had gotten a legal separation in 1827 and her husband had later married a second wife in 1838; and Georgina Hall in 1850 for non-consummation and bigamous adultery by her husband.
    Three? other attempts failed though in at least one case the woman moved to Scotland and got her divorce there.

    Between 1857 and 1923 about 60% of the divorces were gotten by men which still means 40% were by women (admittedly some of the latter were cases when both partners wanted out).
    Most of the above is from "Divorce in England 1700-1857" by Sybil Wolfram, Oxford Journal of Legal Studies, Vol. 5, No. 2 (Summer, 1985), pp. 155-186.

    Note Mrs. Graham might have been able to gain a legal separation from the church courts; however, custody of her son would have almost certainly gone to her husband.
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    From a modern point of view I was shocked by the respectable characters trying to force alcohol on five year old Arthur and how insistent they were that Mrs. Graham was coddling him by refusing him to drink any! I knew that children drank watered down wine at times as the water was dangerous to drink, but not that they thought boys should start drinking at such a young age so they could grow up to be manly men. I was also shocked when Gilbert Markham so viciously attacked Frederick Lawrence. It was understandable he was angry about Lawrence seemingly taking advantage of Helen, but it seemed he mainly acted out of jealousy. The attack was bad enough, but then he left him for dead with a serious head injury. He was very lucky that Lawrence forgave him and pretended to the community that he had had an accident.

    For contemporary readers an upper class woman not only running away from her husband, but taking her child and living alone would have been shocking. Many men lived like the elder Arthur Huntingdon and saw nothing wrong with it and many women put up with it or had affairs of their own.

    Then novel definitely seemed more realistic and much less Gothic than the other Bronte novels. Gilbert Markham's relationships with his siblings and mother were relatable to a modern reader, though I hope mothers today would not so blatantly favour their sons, especially the eldest and teach their daughters their role was to pander entirely to their husbands and sons. I would have liked to know more or Rose Markham's story and who her husband was, given the whole book is Gilbert writing to his brother-in-law.
  • Most contemporary reviews of this book described it as scandalous and particularly unfit to be read by ladies. Were those reviewers right to condemn it so fervently? Does it still elicit such a reaction? Consider particularly the treatment of wives by some of the “gentry” described..
    The only scandalous part I would think was that it provided a recipe for women’s emancipation from the tyranny of abusive marriages. I find Wuthering Heights to be scandalous on so many different levels. The Tenant is tame in comparison.

    • Nevertheless Tenant sold like hot cakes until suppressed – presumably with most sales to young ladies who did not want to be left in ignorance of the ways of the world, from which the customary upbringing at the time left them in blissful ignorance. The possible consequences of this are illustrated the central character, Helen Graham, who falls into her disastrous marriage ignorant of the ways of some men, especially of “gentlemen” of her time, despite the warnings of her aunt. Are women (e.g. most women in your country) too wise in the ways of the world to do so now?
    Hard to comment as a male but where angels fear to tread… I hear of all sorts of disastrous relationships where men are mentally and/or physically abusive.

    • Child rearing practices in rich households of the time. Compare those of young Arthur (in his father’s and in his mother’s household) with Helen’s sheltered upbringing. Other examples in the book?
    The parents presented to extreme. Arthur senior wanted to raise him in his own image. Aside from using some aversion tactics, Helen’s major approach was to shelter him from the world.

    • The book is set before the passing of the Married Women’s Property Act, which inhibited at least some of the abuses described in Part 2 of the book. Are you aware of , or lived in a country or society , where women still effectively lose control of their property and any subsequent children to their husband on marriage?
    I am not aware of the history of Canadian law on this issue. I am sure it probably mirrors Britain’s experience.


    • To what extent do you think the author’s brother Branwell – who died of alcoholism, and conspicuously failed to be the earner of the family that he was expected to be - was the model for the dissolute set of “gentlemen”? [IRL, by his affair with mistress of the house, he got Emily dismissed from her employment, and she the only one in the siblings to earn any substantial income outside of their writing].
    Branwell provided Anne with excellent material for the role of Arthur.

    • How do the famous books by the other Bronte sisters compare to this one in your view, particularly Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte and Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. (Note that their reception at the time was rather different to how they look now.) Isn’t it amazing how action-packed these books are compared to the quiet country parsonage in the “middle of nowhere” where they lived?
    The only one I have read is Wuthering Heights. I suppose if you live in a quiet place you want to escape to somewhere more exciting in your imagination.

    • This story (Tenant) has a more modern feel, at least to me, than some other Bronte novels. Do you agree? Can you think of any relatively recent parallels either in fiction (including films) or in real life?
    Much more modern feel than WH. I think the lack of use of dialect was one of the elements. The use of a letter made it feel a bit like a frame story like WH.

    • What did you think of the style of writing of this book – both the prose style and the way the plot became clear?
    The prose was very clear. The plot unfolded as would most tales of reminiscence.

    • Were the author’s sisters right to suppress this book as soon as they could? Why?
    No! Seems like jealousy to me.

    • Did any of the minor characters make any impression on you and/or contribute much to the novel, perhaps even a humourous grin or two? Consider those in the village and those in the ‘dissolute’ set, as you fancy.
    Lord Lowborough was probably my favourite minor character.

    • Tenant was Anne Bronte’s second book. Have any of you read her first, Agnes Grey ? How does it compare with this one?
    I have yet to read it. Thanks for giving me a reason to read The Tenant.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    What did you think of the style of writing of this book – both the prose style and the way the plot became clear?
    I thought the device of having Gilbert write a long letter to his brother in way and then find out Helen's story by a large chunk of her journal was rather unwieldy to say the least. The style I really enjoyed, it felt, as has already been noted, modern.
    Did any of the minor characters make any impression on you and/or contribute much to the novel, perhaps even a humorous grin or two? Consider those in the village and those in the ‘dissolute’ set, as you fancy.
    I thought many of the minor characters were well drawn, Fergus the annoying younger brother and the flirty and trouble stirring Eliza for instance. I got a bit confused between the friends of Arthur Hammond, why did so many of them have surname's beginning with H, but they way the parties were described seemed pretty plausible to me.

    I liked the way that Gilbert was not the great stuff of romantic fiction, in fact he seemed rather lucky to end up with the good fortune to marry Helen, who having got herself a settled life might have been better deciding to stay single. I did find her moralising a little annoying in places though I understood why she had become that way after the behaviour of her husband. I too was rather shocked my Mrs Markham thinking pressing diluted wine on a six year old was a good idea.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I thought the format of the book really strained credibility -- there's no reason for why Gilbert is writing this story in the form of letters to his brother in law 20 years later, and even less reason why he would include along with these letters, the extremely personal diaries that Helen showed him, which actually make up the bulk of the book. But I think that's just a feature of the conventions of novel-writing at the time, when many (not all!) first-person narratives had to have a pretext for existing, in the sense that they were often framed as diaries or letters rather than directly addressing the reader.

    The other real weakness I found with the structure of the book is that, whatever his character flaws, I think Gilbert is much more lively, engaging, and interesting narrator in his sections of the book, than Helen is in hers. I felt bad for what she had to endure, but she often seemed preachy, dull, and moralizing in her diary entries, and lacking the spark of humour which makes Gilbert's sections more interesting to read.

    I agree with others that it's a bit jarring for the modern reader to find everyone in Gilbert's social circle (including the vicar!) indignant at the idea that Helen won't allow her small child to drink alcohol.
  • No surprise when “ gripe water” used for colicky babies contained alcohol ( not to mention “ soothing syrup” which was laudanum ( opium-derived) both of which were in common use at that time.
  • Gin of course was tipple du jour for the poor
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    edited September 2023
    True, but Helen's situation is a bit different from either of those -- she's not being advised to give little Arthur an alcohol- or opium-laced parent medicine, nor are they poor people drowning their sorrows with gin. The characters are respectable land-owning people, who firmly believe that if a small (male) child is not started on drinking wine socially as early as possible, he will grow up to be insufficiently manly.

    The gender difference is interesting here too of course -- presumably there would not be the same pressure on a little girl to drink. The women do drink alcohol too, in moderation, but drinking as presented both positively and negatively in this novel seems to be closely tied to ideals of masculinity.
  • No doubt you are right
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    One of the most horrifying bits of Charlotte M. Yonge's The Daisy Chain, along with denying bright girls an education due to their gender was the sister who dosed up her baby with laudanum to keep it quiet and caused its death.
    To get back to The Tennant, I really liked the depiction of village life in the 1820s where small parties were a regular form of entertainment. I felt I got a real insight into what life was actually like.
    I agree that Gilbert was a much more rounded character. Helen in the beginning seems very much your average teenage girl. If she was as devout as she becomes towards the end she'd have ditched Arthur when he went to church with her on their engagement and didn't take the service seriously.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Sarasa wrote: »
    If she was as devout as she becomes towards the end she'd have ditched Arthur when he went to church with her on their engagement and didn't take the service seriously.

    Of course the biggest red flag did occur after their marriage, when they were having quiet days at home and Arthur was bored because he couldn't or wouldn't read a book!!

    Get out of there, girl!

  • Perhaps Helen should have persuaded Arthur to join the 19th century equivalent of the Ship of Fools book group ?! That might have got him reading - or maybe not.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Back again and I wanted to say that like Trudy I found the plotting creaky and naive -- something voyeuristic in men sharing a woman's distraught diary and her letters. Very much the early epistolary novel with no benefit from cinematic flashbacks or polyphony.

    But there was something irresistibly comic for me in the last chapters, a male ineptitude both infuriating and endearing. Once Helen's husband has died, nothing prevents Gilbert from going to her. They have mentioned a waiting period of six months and he could wait that out and then go. But Helen's brother says nothing to encourage him and Gilbert can't bring himself to ask any direct questions of Frederick. Then he hears Helen has gone to her aunt's home and so he delays any visit. Dithering. He then becomes convinced she is remarrying and rushes off to confront her at the altar only to find that her brother is the one getting married, a secret not shared with him. So Gilbert dashes across the country to see Helen back at her aunt's place but discovers she has inherited her uncle's estate and wealth and is far above him in social status. He decides to return home and live as a bachelor. Helen's small son recognises the forlorn Gilbert standing under a tree beside the road and Helen invites him home. More misunderstandings, a rose is thrown out of a window and Gilbert leaps through the window and picks it up, light breaks in and love is declared. I couldn't help thinking that between the reticent moody brother and the adoring but clueless husband, Helen will have her work cut out for her. And probably no hope of her art going anywhere once she is married...
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I wonder what the story would have been like told from Arthur Henderson's point of view?
  • A self-justifying, self-pitying insightless rant/ whinge, no doubt about his holy roller wowser of a spouse who failed to appreciate his brilliance and charm, ruined his fun and did her best to turn his mini-me into a snivelling cissy.

    Plus a few asides about morning after headaches improved by a hair of the dog.
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