Platform 9 and 4/4: A New Railway Appreciation Thread

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  • In India the word "bogie" is, I believe, used to mean "carriage" (presumably not a four- or six-wheeler!)
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited February 9
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    A question for you train afficionados if I may:
    I sing songs in folk clubs and I like to find out if I can the meaning of the words of the songs.
    One song I do is In the Sidings written in the 1960s by Cyril Tawney in response to the Beeching cuts, I believe. The song is from the point of view of a station master made redundant. It contains the line "my bogie fires are burning low". Usually pronounced 'boggy'.
    What are these bogie fires?

    I wonder if he is using 'bogie' to mean engine? (Interestingly, 'boggi' is the Swedish word for 'bogie', but I doubt that's relevant here).

    That's a possibility, I guess, but it's an odd word to use...

    Mind you, a singer could substitute 'engine' for 'bogie', and it would fit.
    :wink:
  • In India the word "bogie" is, I believe, used to mean "carriage" (presumably not a four- or six-wheeler!)

    Yes, although that doesn't explain the reference to a 'fire'. Alas! Cyril Tawney died in 2005, so we can't ask him what he meant...
  • Wesley JWesley J Circus Host
    There are so-called bogie hearth furnaces for industrial processes, see e.g. here. Hm.
  • Hmm indeed.

    An interesting use of the word, but not, I think quite what Mr Tawney was referring to.

    The mystery deepens...
  • I appreciate you folks engaging with this mystery. I'm wondering if 'bogie fires' might refer to something like 'spirit' or life-force rather than a real fire but I'll report back if my research comes up with anything!
  • I'd put it down to ignorance: possibly he intended to say 'boiler' but misremembered the terminology.
  • Wesley JWesley J Circus Host
    Now that'd make sense, good thinking.
  • Merry Vole wrote: »
    I appreciate you folks engaging with this mystery. I'm wondering if 'bogie fires' might refer to something like 'spirit' or life-force rather than a real fire but I'll report back if my research comes up with anything!

    I’m not certain, but I believe the grease used to lubricate railway axles and bearings was flammable. It probably still is, but to a lesser extent.

  • sionisais wrote: »
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    I appreciate you folks engaging with this mystery. I'm wondering if 'bogie fires' might refer to something like 'spirit' or life-force rather than a real fire but I'll report back if my research comes up with anything!

    I’m not certain, but I believe the grease used to lubricate railway axles and bearings was flammable. It probably still is, but to a lesser extent.
    Given that I am once again at tbe guacamole mine stage of a stinking cold the last thing I need is flammable bogies! The ordinary kind are quite bad enough, thank you.
  • Well, quite. You'd want your 'bogie fires' to be burning low...
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