Perfect Game: Baseball 2024

Dan: Eleven years ago Orlando Rojas pitched a perfect game.
Rebecca: And a perfect game is good?
Dan: Look, I know there's a lot of jargon but some of these really are self-explanatory.
--"Sports Night" Season 1, Episode 18 (March 23, 1999)
Teams are reporting to Spring Training this week. There is no World Baseball Classic this year, which means less disruption to the normal Spring Training...with the exception that the LA Dodgers and SD Padres will break Spring Training early to go to Seoul, North Korea to play the first two official games of the season on March 20 & 21. They will then return to the US and resume Spring Training until the rest of the season resumes on March 28 (with the Dodgers playing St. Louis and the Padres playing SF Giants).

And that isn't the only foreign tour this year! The Houston Astros and Colorado Rockies will play two games in Mexico City on April 27 & 28. And then the Philadelphia Phillies & NY Mets head to London for two games on June 8 & 9.

Let's hope the weather stays good for all those games. It is bad enough to travel internationally for two games...but traveling that far for a couple of rain-outs would be very annoying.

Anyway, just to remind you: the defending World Series Champions are the Texas Rangers.

By my calculation, entering 2024, here is a listing of the number of years since the listed teams last won the World Series (teams marked by * have never won the World Series and the count starts with the team’s formation):

Cleveland Guardians (75 seasons)
Milwaukee Brewers (55 seasons)*
San Diego Padres (55 seasons)*
Seattle Mariners (47 seasons)*
Pittsburgh Pirates (44 seasons)
Baltimore Orioles (40 seasons)
Detroit Tigers (39 seasons)
NY Mets (37 seasons)
Oakland A's (34 seasons)
Cincinnati Reds (33 seasons)
Minnesota Twins (32 seasons)
Colorado Rockies (31 seasons)*
Toronto Blue Jays (30 seasons)
Tampa Bay Rays (26 seasons)*
Arizona Diamondbacks (22 seasons)
LA Angels (21 seasons)
Miami Marlins (20 seasons)
Chicago White Sox (18 seasons)
Philadelphia Phillies (15 seasons)
NY Yankees (14 seasons)
St. Louis Cardinals (12 seasons)
SF Giants (9 seasons)
Kansas City Royals (8 seasons)
Chicago Cubs (7 seasons)
Boston Red Sox (5 season)
Washington Nationals (4 seasons)
LA Dodgers (3 seasons)
Atlanta Braves (2 seasons)
Houston Astros (1 seasons)
Texas Rangers (0 seasons)

**************************************************

And here is the list of how long it has been since a team last competed in the World Series (whether they won it or not):

Seattle Mariners (Never)(Team formed 1977)
Pittsburgh Pirates (1979)
Milwaukee Brewers (1982)
Baltimore Orioles (1983)
Oakland A’s (1990)
Cincinnati Reds (1990)
Minnesota Twins (1991)
Toronto Blue Jays (1993)
San Diego Padres (1998)
LA Angels (2002)
Miami Marlins (2003)
Chicago White Sox (2005)
Colorado Rockies (2007)
NY Yankees (2009)
Detroit Tigers (2012)
St. Louis Cardinals (2013)
SF Giants (2014)
NY Mets (2015)
Kansas City Royals (2015)
Cleveland Guardians (2016)
Chicago Cubs (2016)
Boston Red Sox (2018)
Washington Nationals (2019)
Tampa Bay Rays (2020)
LA Dodgers (2020)
Atlanta Braves (2021)
Philadelphia Phillies (2022)
Houston Astros (2022)
Arizona Diamondbacks (2023)
Texas Rangers (2023)


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  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    ... the LA Dodgers and SD Padres will break Spring Training early to go to Seoul, North Korea ...

    Good heavens - has it moved? :mrgreen:
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    edited February 2024
    A good sense of direction has never been one of my talents.... :lol:


    (Off topic: it reminds me of the classic film that was released under the name Krakatoa: East of Java (1968) Maximilian Schell, Diane Baker. Slight technical problem: Krakatoa is west of Java.)
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Dan: Eleven years ago Orlando Rojas pitched a perfect game.
    Rebecca: And a perfect game is good?
    Dan: Look, I know there's a lot of jargon but some of these really are self-explanatory.
    --"Sports Night" Season 1, Episode 18 (March 23, 1999)
    I loved that show so much.
    By my calculation, entering 2024, here is a listing of the number of years since the listed teams last won the World Series ...

    One baseball podcaster I listen to, Paul Sullivan on Locked on MLB, has a fan base suffering index that he recalculates every year that takes a bunch of things into account:
    (Number of Years Since a Team’s Last World Series Title)
    + (Number of Years Since a Team’s Last Pennant ÷ 4)
    + (Number of Years Since the World Series Title BEFORE the Last one ÷ 8)
    + (Number of Years Since a Team’s Last Post Season Appearance ÷ 16)
    + (Number of Deciding or One Game Playoffs LOST since last World Series title x 10)
    – (Number of Deciding or One Game Playoffs WON since last World Series title)
    + (Number of sub .500 Seasons Since Last World Series Title X2)
    + (Number of 100 loss Seasons Since Last World Series Title X3)

    Guardians fans have the highest suffering score, followed by Pirates fans, neither of which is shocking. Dodgers fans have the second lowest, which I feel underestimates the misery engendered by our team winning just one postseason game in two years. But nobody feels bad for Dodgers fans these days. 😈
  • Can't wait for baseball to start. However, I hope the Blue Jays get another hitter or two soon. Preferably one is a third baseman and one is a lefty with power.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Play ball!! The first official game of the 2024 season is being played right now in South Korea between the Dodgers and the Padres. (Currently the top of the 8th.)
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    The Padres & Dodgers split their two games in South Korea. Now we get to wait another week until the next official game of the season (March 28).
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    I am eagerly waiting to see how long before the Blue Jays become an utter disappointment on the season.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    The first weekend of the season is over. As usual, I like to keep track of who remains undefeated the longest, and who remains winless the longest. It is usually pointless. Lasy year, Tampa Bay started out the season 13-0...and they still ended up second place in their division at the end of the year (and were bounced from the playoffs in the wild card round).

    Still, it amuses me. Currently, two teams (Yankees & Pirates) are 4-0 and two (Tigers & Brewers) are 3-0. On the loser side, Astros and Marlins are 0-4; White Sox and Mets are 0-3.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    The Yankees got to 5-0 before losing (now 5-1). The Pirates are currently 5-0 pending today's game (weather permitting). Tigers & Brewers are both currently 4-0.

    On the Winless side, it is down to the Mets (0-4) and the Marlins (0-6).
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Houston broke it's winless streak with a no hitter over my Jays. Jays came back the next day and hit a two run homer when down to their last out to win 2-1.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    And there are no more undefeated teams. The Pirates lost yesterday, leaving the Tigers...who were "only" 4-0 because of having games rained out. They played a double header today, winning the first game to go 5-0. And they just lost the second. So we had 3 teams start 5-0 and all 3 then lost their 6th game.

    There is also one winless team left. The Marlins are 0-7. And they are currently losing 8-5 in the 8th. Not A Good Start.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Just to complete the cycle, the Marlins finally did win in their 10th game, beating St. Louis on Sunday, 10-3. And then Monday they went to NY to be crushed by the Yankees 7-0. Tough year if you are a Marlins fan.
  • Jays beat Yankees in the first 2 games of the series - going for the sweep today!
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Not so much time to re-write the record books as to correct them: MLB will officially incorporate statistics from the Negro Leagues into the record books.
    The immediate impact of the incorporation will see Josh Gibson, one of baseball's greatest players, take multiple records from the likes of Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth, per CBS Sports. Gibson will become the all-time leader in career batting average at .372, passing Cobb's mark of .366, according to CBS Sports. His career .718 slugging percentage will also be the all-time high mark now, surpassing Ruth's previous record of .690, and he'll be the leader in career OPS (on-base plus slugging percentage) with 1.177, passing Ruth's mark of 1.164.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Here is a more detailed discussion of the process.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    As an outsider, I find it really hard to comprehend that you had separate leagues in the first place. :cry:

    I'll also be honest and confess that while I'd heard of Babe Ruth (mostly via Peanuts cartoons), for some reason I'd always imagined he was Black (and it wouldn't have occurred to me that that would have meant he had to play in, literally, a different league).
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Major league baseball was segregated for quite a period of time. This explains the history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_color_line
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    edited July 2024
    The National anthem at last nights Home Rub Derby was brutal. Turns out the singer was drink and is checking herself into rehab.

    https://tinyurl.com/ms9d8urt

    [Edit: Have shortened very long URL by using tinyurl - other providers available. - Wesley J, Circus Host]
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Yes, that was a sad spectacle. But it is good to know that it caused her to get help.

    But your post reminded me that, as we are at the All-Star Break, now would be a good time to update the season. Roughly speaking, we are midway through the season.

    [Technically, halfway would be when each team has played game #81 of the 162-game season. In fact, most teams have played 95 or 96 games at this point.]

    AL East
    Baltimore Orioles lead the division by one game over the NY Yankees. Further back are the Red Sox (4.5 games back), Tampa Bay Rays (10) and Toronto Blue Jays (14--sorry @Caissa and @sharkshooter ).

    AL Central
    Cleveland Guardians lead by 4.5 games over the Minnesota Twins. Further back are the KC Royals (7), Detroit Tigers (12) and Chicago White Sox (32.5 games--OUCH!) The White Sox have the worst record in the league at 27-71 (.276)

    AL West
    Seattle Mariners lead by one game over the Houston Astros. Further back are the defending champion Texas Rangers (5) LA Angels (10) and Oakland Athletics (15).

    NL East
    Philadelphia Phillies, with the best record in the league at 62-34 (.646), lead the Atlanta Braves by 8.5 games, followed by the NY Mets (12.5), Washington national (18.5) and Miami Marlins (29).

    NL Central
    Milwaukee Brewers lead by 4.5 games over the St. Louis Cardinals, followed by the Pittsburgh Pirates (6.5), Cincinnati Reds (8) and Chicago Cubs (8.5). Yes, Chicago has two major league teams and they are both in last place. It is a rough summer to be a Chicago fan.

    NL West
    LA Dodgers lead both the Arizona Diamondbacks and the San Diego Padres by 7 games. Following them are the SF Giants (9) and Colorado Rockies (22).
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Am currently reading Satchel: The Life and Times of an American Legend, by Larry Tye New York: Random House 2000. Just finished the chapter on Blackball, which is an overview of how the American Negro Leagues first formed. It was a much different time then.
  • Just wanted to note that the Chicago White Sox are having an historically bad season. They are currently experiencing a 20-game losing streak, the longest since Baltimore lost 21 in a row back in 1988. The "modern" record is a 23-game losing streak accomplished by the Philadelphia Phillies in 1961. Going back to the dawn of baseball, the record is a 26-game losing streak by the 1889 Louisville Colonels.

    The White Sox are currently at a 27-87 record. There are 48 games left in the regular season. Even if they win ALL 48 GAMES remaining, they will still end the season with a losing record (75-87)! And if they happen to lose all 48 games, they will end up with 135 losses, eclipsing the 134-loss mark of the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.



  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Their manager isn't called Charlie Brown, is he? :mrgreen:
  • The White Sox won last night to end their losing streak at 21 games.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Well done them! :)
  • I was waiting until they hit 100 losses, but this news couldn't wait. The Chicago White Sox are mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs. As of August 17. That is impressive.

    Incidentally, they did fire their manager earlier in August. It has not changed their fortunes. Managing was not the reason they lose so often.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    They're on track for a worse record than the 1962 Mets, who went 40-120 (.250). The ChiSox are 30-95 (.240). Not 1899 Cleveland Spiders territory, but still - historically bad. I would love to hear what that fan who went on a rant on the radio last year thinks now. (Any baseball fan who has not seen this: punch "Chicago White Sox fan rant" into YouTube's search and enjoy a 7-minute takedown of what's passing for a front office on the south side of Chicago).
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    An MLB first this afternoon. Danny Jansen will play on both teams in a doubleheader. A few other players will officially make their major league debuts when they were still playing in AAA. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/baseball-danny-jansen-double-duty-aug-25-1.7304649
  • Just to clarify, while it is (in a sense) a doubleheader, what is unique is that he will play for both teams IN A SINGLE GAME.

    He was with Toronto on June 26 when the game started. Rain caused a suspension, so they are now finishing that game today--and in the meantime he was traded to Boston, so he can now play for Boston for the conclusion of the suspended game.
  • Incidentally, keeping track of the hard-luck Chicago White Sox. They have now amassed 100 losses for the season (31-100). That is the fastest that any team has racked up 100 losses since the 1916 Athletics (who managed to do it one game faster: 29-100-1)(yeah, they had a tie; go figure).
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Just to clarify, while it is (in a sense) a doubleheader, what is unique is that he will play for both teams IN A SINGLE GAME.

    He was with Toronto on June 26 when the game started. Rain caused a suspension, so they are now finishing that game today--and in the meantime he was traded to Boston, so he can now play for Boston for the conclusion of the suspended game.

    Wasn't he at bat when the game was suspended?
  • Ruth wrote: »
    Wasn't he at bat when the game was suspended?
    Indeed he was. So when the game resumes, he will be catching while another player completes his at-bat.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    He will have batted and caught in the same at-bat. I love it. Who gets the hit, walk, out, whatever on the scorecard?
  • Honestly, I didn't know. But looking at the box score, they credited a strike out to Varsho, who was substituted for Jansen. Jansen's line for Toronto shows no at-bats (because the game was suspended during his first at-bat). Jansen went 1-for-4 for Boston.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'm even more confused than my usual for this thread. The game where the gentleman has changed sides was suspended at the end of June, and is only being re-started now? Are you trying to tell me that rain has stopped play in Toronto for the whole summer??? :confused:
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    No. Toronto has a dome; there are never rainouts in Toronto. The rainout was in Boston. They game was resumed as the first game of a doubleheader when Toronto was scheduled to be back in Boston for another series of games.
  • Oh, @Piglet, suspended games can get far more complicated than that. My favorite is from 2009.

    May 5, Houston Astros playing at the Washington Nationals. The teams remained tied through the top of the 11th inning (this was before the new rule concerning extra innings), when the weather ceased to tolerate the game anymore. It got suspended.

    But apparently that was the only time Houston was coming to Washington for the season, so the game resumed in Houston on July 9, with Washington scoring the winning run in the bottom of the 11th. Because they were still the "home" team even though playing in Houston. Making Houston the first team to lose a game on a "walkoff" hit in their own ballpark since the Yankees-Twins did the same trick in 1975.

    Washington had 8 players who were no longer on the team when the game finally finished. Including the guy who became the winning pitcher--he had been traded to the Pirates and was taking a nap in Philadelphia when he "won" the game.

    And, because of a quirk in baseball stats, everything that happened in the game on July 9 is officially treated as if it happened on May 5. Which created two oddities: First, the guy who scored the winning run had been playing for the Pirates back in May--so "officially" the record books show him getting a hit for the Pirates on the same day that he scored the winning run for Washington. Second, in July Washington was in the midst of a losing streak. While they won this game in July, the losing streak remained intact because the win was attributed to May 5....so Washington pulled off the rare stunt of winning a game in the midst of a losing streak!
  • ... and we all thought cricket was arcane!
  • Miami Marlins and Colorado Rockies have also been eliminated from playoff contention.

    The Washington Nationals are likely the next to fall.
  • Credit me with an error. In fact, the LA Angels are the next team to be eliminated from playoff contention.

    Washington has been eliminated from winning the division, but they are still mathematically alive for making the playoffs.

    Right now, it is a competition between Washington and Oakland as to which will be the next to be eliminated from the playoffs.
  • There goes your Gold Glove in predictions.
  • So, Guerrero Jr (Vladdy to Blue Jays fans) had a massive turn-around mid-sesaon this year. Was it the haircut, or the fact that the pressure was off because they were no longer contenders?

    Hopefully, the former. I'd hate to have to conclude that he can't perform under pressure.
  • Clearly the haircut!

    Oakland has now been eliminated from playoff contention.
  • Finally, Washington is now fully eliminated from playoff contention.

    The competition for who will fall next is pretty fierce. It could be Pittsburgh, Texas, San Francisco, Toronto (sorry), or even potentially Cincinnati or Tampa Bay!
  • That didn't take long. Pittsburgh has been eliminated.

    It is kind of weird that 7 teams have now been eliminated from playoff contention but, as far as I can tell, no team has actually clinched a playoff spot yet.
  • Can the White Sox lose more than 120 this year? It seems destined.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    It is kind of weird that 7 teams have now been eliminated from playoff contention but, as far as I can tell, no team has actually clinched a playoff spot yet.

    The Phillies could clinch today. I think. Math is hard! [/Barbie]
  • Milwaukee Brewers become the first to clinch a playoff spot, courtesy of the Oakland As beating the Cubs this afternoon, making the Brewers the winner of the NL Central division.

    But there is not much of a chance for the Brewers to celebrate right away, because they still have a game to play tonight against the Phillies!
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    edited September 2024
    NY Yankees have clinched a playoff spot.

    And Cincinnati has been eliminated from playoff contention.
  • Shohei Ohtani becomes the first MLB player to hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases in a single season. If you are unfamiliar with baseball, it may be difficult to understand what an achievement that is. But in the 125+ years of major league baseball nobody else has ever done that.

    Playoff updates: SF Giants have been eliminated. LA Dodgers and Cleveland Guardindians have clinched a playoff spot. So 4 out of the 12 playoff teams have now been identified.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Shohei Ohtani becomes the first MLB player to hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bases in a single season.

    And 51/51. He'll set records for the rest of the season. He went 6 for 6 - a single, two doubles, and three home runs. He had 10 RBIs, 2 stolen bases, 17 total bases. Also, hats off to Marlins manager Skip Schumaker for not having his pitchers intentionally walk Ohtani. He apparently said "fuck that" when it was suggested.

    The Dodgers are once again headed for post-season play, where I think they will once again wash out quickly because the pitching is in tatters. The rotation is Jack Flaherty (fine), Yoshinobu Yamamoto (coming off an injury, not stretched out yet), Walker Buehler (coming back from a second TJ surgery, getting better but not the pitcher he used to be), and Landon Knack (a rookie). The bullpen has been heavily taxed of late, and it's showing wear and tear.
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