The F*ck#ng Cabinet Appointments (US)
Putting this in Hell so participants can have at it.
With Ke##edy being nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services, I imagine that Department will be in full revolt.
Likewise, with G@etz, the alleged sex trafficker and drug partier being nominated for DOJ, I wonder how any reputable prosecutor can work under him.
And with Noem head of Homeland Security, how can its people feel about a leader that cannot set foot on parts of the lands she is supposed to protect?
I am sure the list will go on.
Which brings up an idea: what if the employees of whole departments go on strike? The whole government will come crashing down (Shades of Mark 13 her) would it not?
I remember when the Air Controllers went on strike under Reagan, he fired them.
Can tRump do that, would he do that?
Stay tuned.
With Ke##edy being nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services, I imagine that Department will be in full revolt.
Likewise, with G@etz, the alleged sex trafficker and drug partier being nominated for DOJ, I wonder how any reputable prosecutor can work under him.
And with Noem head of Homeland Security, how can its people feel about a leader that cannot set foot on parts of the lands she is supposed to protect?
I am sure the list will go on.
Which brings up an idea: what if the employees of whole departments go on strike? The whole government will come crashing down (Shades of Mark 13 her) would it not?
I remember when the Air Controllers went on strike under Reagan, he fired them.
Can tRump do that, would he do that?
Stay tuned.
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Surely, @Gramps49, you don't really want to have hellish conversation about these people. You just want to troll me/us by mistyping their names.
Ballsy after the precious little snit you picked in All Saints. I'll give you that. Ballsy indeed.
Hell is the place for fucking with names.
Trolling is what Trump is doing with these appointments. I'm not sure whether that's all it is, or whether it's a loyalty test for the new senate. I seem to recall in his first term Trump was fond of forcing people to abase themselves in public or defy him.
I guess this is because it is a stunningly bad idea to put someone so stupid, incompetent and incapable of understanding basic science as to reject vaccines in any position of power.
But it does seem that crass stupidity is the base requirement these days.
Is there a word for rule by the most unsuitable people? Trumpocracy?
Which is why federal employees do not strike, but can do a work slow-down (taking sick days, vacation etc.) to deplete the number of workers, but a traditional strike is a felony.
Which is part of why Reagan could fire the air traffic controllers. For regular businesses, the employer cannot just fire striking employees, but because the strike was illegal, he was free to fire them. He showed restraint in not throwing them all in prison.
It's a bit of an - interesting - situation where not jailing workers for striking is "restraint".
Thank you for the information. I knew it is illegal for a Federal Employee to strike, but I did not know the specifics of the law.
@The_Riv, no not trolling you, but wanted to set up a thread in which we could discuss the proposed cabinet without having to worry about how anyone spells, misspells, or mangles a name, and wondering what the options of the federal employees might be.
Take, for instance, the military, the greatest bureaucracy in the world. Also, the greatest social experiment in the world. It has led our society in modern integration by a decade before the civil rights bills were passed. It was allowing for same sex relationships even before Obama formally integrated it. It has developed many diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that have been copied in private industry.
Now that Hegseth has said he is going after the "woke" generals, if he is confirmed, how much of a push back will there be from the top brass? Remember, the military is sworn to defend the constitution, not a particular president, what options would they have? What options would they likely use.
Not in the United States, I don't think. If there is, I would like to know.
The New Republic had a discussion on the Republican meltdown concerning G*etz and Kennedy. Essentially, the participants think both men are bridges too far.
I think they underestimate the cowardice of GOP senators when it comes to facing down MAGA.
I'm kind of astonished that those who wrote the constitution retained the power of the executive to effectively suspend the legislature. Wouldn't this enable the president to adjourn congress if they thought impeachment was on the cards? I thought the founders learned the lessons of parliament in the Stuart period and the Protectorate. Evidently not all of them.
On reading further, it looks like Trump would have to contrive a disagreement between the House and Senate, so it is only really relevant if the Senate is not keen on his nominees but the House is.
To the best of my knowledge, this authority has never been exercised. I acknowledge, though, that we are in a time of “never before” when it comes to the president-elect.
This theory only works if Trump himself believes the appointees to be unqualified. But I could honestly see him thinking that people like Gaetz, Gabbard, and Kennedy jr. are, in fact, the best people for the job.
I think it's highly unlikely that he knows or cares who is best for the job, or even thinks about it in those terms.
Well, maybe, but for @Crœsos's theory to hold, Trump WOULD have to have a criterion for thinking these people are incompetent, since the whole point would be for Trump to see if Congress will accept unqualified nominees.
Hard to say what Trump "believes", or if that word even applies to how he thinks of things. But this seems like the equivalent of forcing Sean Spicer to go out and repeatedly tell the press that the crowd for Trump's first inauguration was the biggest in history, much bigger than Obama's. Spicer and the reporters he was talking to all knew that this was false, but part of the value for Trump was his ability to force Spicer to repeat farcically obvious falsehoods.
The other value seems to have been Trump's conviction that if you say something often enough it becomes true through repetition. So if the Senate votes to confirm his appointees they therefore must be qualified by virtue of that approval.
Foreign leaders are usually accorded diplomatic immunity when visiting other countries.
If the government says he is, sure. The law gives the Home Secretary pretty wide latitude in this area.
The Senate failed to convict and remove him from office. He was duly impeached twice by the House of Representatives.
And of course, assuming judgment and a sentence are entered, he can appeal and move for that judgment to be stayed pending appeal.
Then too, a recess appointment can only be made when the Senate takes a recess longer than ten days. But, the Senate cannot do that without agreeing to a concurrent resolution with the house--meaning a majority of both houses have to agree to adjourn. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-senate-recess-appointments-new-leader/
Neither would I.
What a ghastly muddle it all seems to be.
My theory is that it was straight payback for Kennedy's endorsement sending a few eco-luddite votes in Trump's direction, and that Trump has very little interest in actually implementing Kennedy's anti-Big Pharma agenda.
What did Garrett say?
Just a random metaphorical notion, but I think Kennedy jr. is gonna end being DJT's Father Coughlin. I've got a bet going with myself that he eventually turns against Trump and quits the cabinet in hateful disillusionment.
I assume that's a humourous way of saying that de-fluoridation will lead to more people needing dental work. FWIW, the American Dental Association publically recommends fluoridation.
General Ripper would be.
And he does have a point about all the crap that goes into American food. He once used the illustration of the difference of McDonald french fries in the United Kingdom and America. In the UK, he said, there are three ingredients: the potato, the oil, and a dash of salt. In America, according to him, there is the potato plus about 17 different chemicals.
And the solution to that is better regulation. Which will not come from conspiracy theorists or smash-the-staters.
David Ike started out as an environmentalist too.
But the Disgraced Son doesn't have a record of denying anyone his essence -- especially women.
Some of us on this side of the pond do not know who you are talking about. Also, is the spelling right?
David Icke. The Lizard People guy. Basically re-marketing the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion as a New Age UFO cult.
Well played.
Thanks. Apologies for the typo.