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  • I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.
    I think that's because vicars are supposed to have their minds on higher things than sartorial refinement.
  • Ruth wrote: »
    The_Riv wrote: »
    All I can say is that for the context I'm citing (being at church with his wife and kids) his attitude seems to be questionable at best.
    What I always wonder is how and why people get themselves into situations like this in the first place. If he agreed to raise the kids in the church, what did he think that meant? If she knew he wasn't devout when they married, what did she think was going to happen when the kids came along?

    He was probably content for his wife to take the kids to church, and was expecting to do his own thing on Sundays, except that he and his wife have discovered, now that they are parents rather than clueless would-be parents, that the logistics of wrangling multiple possibly fractious children are significantly improved with two adults. So perhaps his body has been prevailed upon to be present in church as a precaution against one of the children needing to be taken out, separated from a squabbling sibling, or whatever.
  • I was the eldest child of just such a pair. The difference was, my father noped out the minute they got back from the honeymoon, and my mother found she couldn't cope with taking to church three (constantly-sick) kids within four years of each other. I'll give her this, she made sporadic attempts. But nothing stuck until I was confirmation age and already a believer (though I didn't tell her that).
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.

    Kidney?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.

    Kidney?

    'Of that kidney' = of that type.

  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Firenze wrote: »
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.

    Kidney?

    'Of that kidney' = of that type.

    Not a phrase that well known in The States.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Hugal wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.

    Kidney?

    'Of that kidney' = of that type.

    Not a phrase that well known in The States.
    Shows an offal gap in a good education.
  • Groan, Alan!!!!! I approve.
  • Hugal wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I though sandals (with socks) were compulsory for vicars, at least ones of a particular kidney.

    Kidney?

    'Of that kidney' = of that type.

    Not a phrase that well known in The States.
    Shows an offal gap in a good education.

    That gets to the heart of the matter.

  • What a load of [iItripe[/i]! I hope you don't liver to regret posting that. According to my lights it was on the tip of my tongue to write something similar.

    I've heard that our American friends tend not to eat offal. Mind you, it's getting rarer here too.
  • I've heard that our American friends tend not to eat offal.
    Some Americans tend not to eat offal. Some Americans most definitely do, and offal is certainly part of many traditional American foodways.


  • Hugal wrote: »
    There are plenty of places I have been where I don’t want be and have to wear something prescribed. Wearing cloths that fit and are in a decent state is ground zero for wearing clothes. Not doing so doesn’t come across as protest but as either not being able to afford decent clothes, . . .

    For the poor you will always have with you, but don't let their raggedy asses bring down the vibe of the church. We're trying to class up this joint.
  • Ruth wrote: »
    The_Riv wrote: »
    All I can say is that for the context I'm citing (being at church with his wife and kids) his attitude seems to be questionable at best.
    What I always wonder is how and why people get themselves into situations like this in the first place. If he agreed to raise the kids in the church, what did he think that meant? If she knew he wasn't devout when they married, what did she think was going to happen when the kids came along?

    He was probably content for his wife to take the kids to church, and was expecting to do his own thing on Sundays, except that he and his wife have discovered, now that they are parents rather than clueless would-be parents, that the logistics of wrangling multiple possibly fractious children are significantly improved with two adults. So perhaps his body has been prevailed upon to be present in church as a precaution against one of the children needing to be taken out, separated from a squabbling sibling, or whatever.

    I resemble this remark. I maintain a season ticket to a rugby club I’ve supported all my life and actually go to 2-3 matches a season thanks to children. I live in hope that one day I’ll be able to go to more again. Having said that, I love my wife and I love my children, and would hope that all the things I do with them instead I do with a slightly better grace than is being talked about here…
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Hugal wrote: »
    There are plenty of places I have been where I don’t want be and have to wear something prescribed. Wearing cloths that fit and are in a decent state is ground zero for wearing clothes. Not doing so doesn’t come across as protest but as either not being able to afford decent clothes, . . .

    For the poor you will always have with you, but don't let their raggedy asses bring down the vibe of the church. We're trying to class up this joint.
    I do believe I mentioned not being able to afford clothes. When I was a boy I had to wear shoes too small for me until my parents could afford to get me new ones. My dad went to work in old clothes so we could have new ones.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Testing Hell Hosts' patience with awful puns takes guts.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Are there any other puns apart from awful ones?
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    edited December 2024
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Testing Hell Hosts' patience with awful puns takes guts.

    Will you be dealing out a pun-ishment?
  • Spike wrote: »
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Testing Hell Hosts' patience with awful puns takes guts.

    Will you be dealing out a pun-ishment?

    Yoooouuuuu rannnnng?

    Speaking of innards, why do vultures never check their luggage on long flights? Because it's carri-on.

    Happy entrails to you, until we meet again...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Hugal wrote: »
    ... My dad went to work in old clothes so we could have new ones.
    David (who was a fairly standard size) used to buy clothes in charity shops* so that I didn't have to. :heart:

    * he was very good at finding charity-shop bargains; he once got a Marks & Sparks suit that still had the labels on for about a tenner.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    Hugal wrote: »
    ... My dad went to work in old clothes so we could have new ones.
    David (who was a fairly standard size) used to buy clothes in charity shops* so that I didn't have to. :heart:

    * he was very good at finding charity-shop bargains; he once got a Marks & Sparks suit that still had the labels on for about a tenner.

    We have quite a few charity shops around her. Wife and one of her friends love to shop in them. They find a number of excellent clothing for them.
  • A number of excellent clothing?

    Don't you mean 'a number of excellent items of clothing?

    I've heard of 'a number of aircraft' or 'a number of vehicles' or 'a number of people' but surely you can't have 'a number of clothing'?

    You'll be telling us 'there's a number of water' next.
  • The one we worship might have worn sandals.
  • I'm guessing not with socks, though... :wink:
  • The shepherds who popped over just after His birth wore socks.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    But not for their visit, because they left them all hanging on a line by the fire to dry.
  • When I ventured back on to this barque, I promised myself (and @Clarence) that I'd restrict myself to pics of kittens and puppies boards like Heaven and All Saints, and not express what I thought of Purg (and especially this newfangled touchy feely Epiphanies thingy) and Hell posts. But the Mods seem to be exercising a lighter touch nowadays, so let me say, as a retired but still cognisant parish minister:

    a) Who gives a rude word what anyone wears to church, aside from the odd pharisee. We're just pleased to see them.

    b) If you're one of the allegedly reluctant attenders (you wouldn't be on this board if you were, so point (b) is sort-of redundant), don't pay a blind bit of notice to @Ruth, and know that everyone apart from her is glad that you're in church, including your family, especially your kids, and recognise and honour the conflicts which you have traversed to be there.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    I don’t know why you’re picking out @Ruth, @Foaming Draught. She has resolutely stood up for people to wear what they like, and for others to mind their own business. Her only criticism, if it is that, is for him going to church when he plainly doesn’t want to be there.
  • BroJames wrote: »
    Her only criticism, if it is that, is for him going to church when he plainly doesn’t want to be there.

    Which is exactly what I've addressed. Who knows that he doesn't want to be there? People have complex reasons for why they are in or not in church. And if he's there when he doesn't want to be, his presence and his interior conflicts should be honoured, not denigrated. Hence, if this hypothetical husband/father is lurking (obviously he's not, but his analogue almost certainly is - he could be me, and I'm a minister for heaven's sake!), "Don't pay a blind bit of notice to Ruth".

  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    @Foaming Draught: Not sure why you've named me as having decided what this guy does and doesn't want. From the top of the thread:
    The_Riv wrote: »
    Look, I get it. You don't want to be there.
  • Please don't bring me back into this. A lot of you have already decided I have no idea what I'm observing, or that even if I did I was wrong about it. S'fine.

    Is this where I wish peace to everyone here and especially to @Ruth?
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    The_Riv wrote: »
    Is this where I wish peace to everyone here and especially to @Ruth?
    Lol!
  • TubbsTubbs Admin Emeritus, Epiphanies Host
    Piglet wrote: »
    My general rule re: church dress codes would be, on my first visit there, dress reasonably smartly (but not ostentatiously so), and then observe how the other people there are dressed and follow their lead.

    My default church outfit is jeans, a nice top and man-repeller shoes. The dresses come out for special services. And if Rev T’s first visit may lead to a more permanent arrangement.

    TBH, the main issue isn’t the clothes as such. More that if the rest of your family is making an effort, you not bothering at all seems a bit meh.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    That would be a pair of these then?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 5
    Huia wrote: »
    Are there any other puns apart from awful ones?

    If they're part of a larger context of humour, they can be okay, eg. Nabokov's Dolores Haze.

    Also, stand-alone puns of a sexual nature(eg. "I hear that gentleman's club has gone bust") will often escape the groaning, because sex jokes are considered funny in and of themselves.
  • TubbsTubbs Admin Emeritus, Epiphanies Host
    edited January 6
    BroJames wrote: »
    That would be a pair of these then?

    Rosa Klebb's!!! Has potential for my commute into work but not for church. Unless I want to ensure that I never get asked to do anything ever again. ;) I was thinking more of these.

    Anyhow, going back to our friend in the pew. Assuming that he dresses appropriately in every other circumstance apart from Sunday, when he rolls around in the ironing pile, then that's not great. He may not want to be there - which is fair enough - but his spouse does. Leaning into a hearty F You week in and week out isn't great for martial harmony.

    The issue isn't the clothes or the place that deserves a "C'mon man". It's the attitude behind them and the treatment of his spouse.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    Today the Responsorial Psalm (Ps. 96: 1-3, 7-8, 9-10) from the pew Missal we use included this gem:

    “Worship the Lord in holy attire. Tremble before him, all the earth.”

    Of course, I thought of this thread.

    :wink:
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Interesting. The translation I’m familiar with is “Worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness”. Some translations suggest it is the beauty of the Lord’s holiness that is in mind.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    And that’s also what I’ve always been familiar with, @BroJames. It brought a wry smile to my face all the same.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    Today the Responsorial Psalm (Ps. 96: 1-3, 7-8, 9-10) from the pew Missal we use included this gem:

    “Worship the Lord in holy attire. Tremble before him, all the earth.”

    Ripped jeans are Biblically sanctioned, then!
  • Are clothes particularly holy or should we all be worshipping naked?
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    That's a question for @ChastMastr.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    I assume "naked" would also include no leather ... so, not really his thing.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited January 28
    The Rogue wrote: »
    Are clothes particularly holy or should we all be worshipping naked?

    Well if we're naked they can't be holy as there's nowhere for the holes to be.

    I think this image was brought to you by those of us who on hearing the words "Holy Ghost" imagined something like a floaty bedsheet that the moths have been at.
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    I know most people understood it, but we had a pun on "holy" versus "holey."
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    HarryCH wrote: »
    I know most people understood it, but we had a pun on "holy" versus "holey."

    I tried to hint
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    As my mother used to say of frayed clothing - more holey than godly.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    That's a question for @ChastMastr.

    LOL!
    I assume "naked" would also include no leather ... so, not really his thing.

    ROTFLOL!
    KarlLB wrote: »
    The Rogue wrote: »
    Are clothes particularly holy or should we all be worshipping naked?

    Well if we're naked they can't be holy as there's nowhere for the holes to be.

    Well, um, technically

    I’ll get me coat.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    :lol: There you go, @ChastMastr!!!
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