RFK *********** Jr.
No reason this shit-stirring conspiracist and bullshit mongerer shouldn't have his own thread.
Let's start with this:
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/01/rfk-jr-cites-flawed-paper-claiming-link-between-vaccines-and-autism-in-hhs-confirmation-hearing/?fbclid=IwY2xjawINUxhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfpRQFofClGGdU-xCySypBwQJvmxLtdIEvRkvHeOvNGhKJmxskfwjIblEA_aem_UYGTkXMWTk0CkO1zFBkQ-A
Let's start with this:
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/01/rfk-jr-cites-flawed-paper-claiming-link-between-vaccines-and-autism-in-hhs-confirmation-hearing/?fbclid=IwY2xjawINUxhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfpRQFofClGGdU-xCySypBwQJvmxLtdIEvRkvHeOvNGhKJmxskfwjIblEA_aem_UYGTkXMWTk0CkO1zFBkQ-A
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Bullshit vs. reason
We’ll see how the vote goes. I suspect Trump might cast him aside if the stupidity and the uncovered lying get him into legal hot water. But otherwise, he’ll just line up the votes regardless of competence.
Advise and Consent? Not really. From the POV of GOP senators it’s a different option. “Consent or look out for what damage I’ll do to you.”
Caroline Kennedy An unedifying insight into his character.
Or, an edifying insight into his unedifying character.
Imagine what Yaxley-Lennon will do with a billion.
A billion is pretty hard to squander, even for wee Tommy two names. You could spend a million a week and it would still last nearly 20 years.
Dafyd Hell Host
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/13/health/louisiana-mass-vaccination/index.html
What price herd immunity eh?
That guy is really something. Sadly I think his sort isn't capable of the kind of honesty it would take to write a genuine memoir. So instead the poor sod will have to settle for people writing about him, which is even sadder because I think - deep down - he makes an incredibly boring topic. The man is merely a political hack. There isn't much worth analyzing.
It’s certainly going to encourage bad behavior among surgeon generals. Ugh. Like the medical version of how Trump’s bullying encourages others to act likewise. God help us.
Eugenics indeed - as horseshit as it ever was.
I've been on Citalopram myself (not since 2015), and it was very helpful. I hope that your fears remain unrealised.
Yeah, years ago, when I ran out of it once and hadn’t gotten around to refilling it, Cubby noticed changes that I was unaware of, so I have made sure ever since to not let myself run out of it. (You think I’m easily stressed/depressed nowadays (as can be seen on various threads—not eating affects that too, though it does not seem to be blood sugar but something else, maybe hormonal?), you should have seen me before…)
Maybe some of those reliant on various meds may soon be regretting voting for the God-Emperor...
That is the common thread. Expect a lot more ugly in the future. Heck, I wonder if they're going to try to rationalize hereditary monarchy that way.
Far as regrets, I'm reminded of stories of people literally being taken to ER's, dying of COVID, still spouting out conspiracy theories as they expired. I'd like to think people are going to get it, but it takes a lot for a person to admit that they've been conned. And so stupidly.
Yep.
It went far beyond "awareness of social injustice", into "if you don't agree with anything and everything we say then you're basically no better than Hitler" territory. When you declare that anyone who isn't completely, unquestioningly, and in all respects with you is against you then it should come as no surprise when many people decide that, actually, they're against you.
That's not actually a thing that happened though, is it? It's an absurd caricature to excuse people voting for fascists.
It doesn’t excuse it, but I’ve definitely encountered the “If you don’t agree 100% on everything, you’re horrible and worth treating like crap” myself over the years from various people over various issues. I could imagine someone who isn’t as politically liberal as me, who doesn’t have highly specific reasons for what they believe politically, experiencing that, and then getting more easily radicalized by Fox News or worse. It doesn’t excuse it, but it might help explain it.
Quite so.
I think that's a laughable conclusion frankly. This may be true at the margins, but the average Trump voter is .. the average Republican voter (in his first term there were even a small but real number of Obama -> Trump swing voters).
And the margins don't get much coverage in the 'liberal' parts of the press, let alone the channels that Red-Staters are likely to watch.
I was speculating provocatively! And at best prematurely.
What is clear is that Harris’s message did portray Trump as a danger to democracy and that lost. What is also clear is that the Trump campaign via the rallies and the adverts sought to pigeonhole Democrats as the “woke” party, making particular use of the trans and abortion issues.
I’m not sure the detailed analysis is in, or whether the “woke” factor in particular has yet been analysed. But I don’t think it was marginal.
There are moves to the right in Europe as well as the USA and neo-nationalism, including intolerance of the different, is proving to be a bit of a vote winner.
“Make Us Great Again. Never mind about Them. Charity begins at Home” etc.
I can’t figure the growing political attraction. I agree with you about the poisonous nature of those underlying ideas. They seem to be meeting underlying needs in the discontented and disillusioned.
You've only got to be on a perfectly innocent social media thread when someone comes in spouting hatred for one group or another who "are to blame" to see what's going on. It's "fucking illegals, fucking Wokes, destroying our country"
It scares me.
They then become vulnerable to people who tell them the problem is 'Them' - the disabled, the immigrants, the trans people etc. because that offers an 'easy' way to improve things without raising taxes but the hidden or not so clear agenda is that it also avoids tackling real injustices - which suits the very rich. It's no accident that this fake 'solution' is so often purveyed by media and social media owned by the very rich.
For some people though, as Karl says, the cruelty is the point. They get to let rip with their ids. Supremacists telling you - yes you! - you're supreme to all those inferior people and you don't have to worry how you speak about them any more - they will be made to know their place again! is attractive to some people.
As the saying goes, men worry women will laugh at them, women worry men will kill them. The kind of members of the various 'master races' who think it's a thumb- sucking outrage if anyone vocally disapproves of them for being supremacists actually bring in legislation which kills, impoverishes and disenfranchises in response. People are already dying thanks to misogynists and other supremacists in power.
But won't somebody think of the poor 'master races' eh? They might get called dreadful things like 'horrid' when they're being horrid or supremacist and that would never do...
Dafyd Hell Host
With health pseudoscience it can also give people the idea that they are protecting their family and themselves- because they 'know' what will keep them healthy. That is until the bill comes due of course, and the child does die of measles or you do get cancer despite all the vitamins - but that can always be rationalised away or covered up or ignored by the others who keep the faith.
FB failed to recognise it as false information and didn't take it down.
How many deaths will they be responsible for between them?