Le Mondial, 2026

Actually paid attention to a game this evening and after a tedious first half, The Netherlands and Japan put on a much more entertaining second half. The officials got things right but as time went on, the defenders seemed to lose control or even interest.
Although the massive stadium is air conditioned, I think some of the players were suffering cramp towards the end, but the pitch could affect that.
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  • What an amazing result, Germany 0 Cape Verde 0. Didn't see it, but well done to them.
  • Sorry, that should be Spain 0 Cape Verde 0, even more amazing.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Okay, Cape Verde Island did defend in depth, but the favourites ought to be able to break them down. Cape Verde even had the best chance of the game late on, but they have a point and Spain have lost two.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Part of me is thinking that the first half of any match is irrelevant, except to tire players out so that there is more space and more errors are made. Anyway, they are pretty dull.
    That was definitely the case last night in the France v Senegal match. Poor first half, with Senegal getting a golden chance late on, which they paid for in the second half when a completely different France pinned them and took a good lead only for entertaining chaos in added time.
    Over all, 7/10. I can see France winning this.
  • Olise caught the eye, with some smooth cross-field passes, usually to Mbappe. Quite a team. Funny to think Olise was at Palace several years ago.
  • LuciaLucia Shipmate
    I am generally not that interested in football but I watched the England v Crotia game as others in the household were watching.
    As a non-expert I found it an entertaining watch, with some moments of genuine excitement. A good crop of goals is much more entertaining than effective but dull defending to scrape a win.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    England v Croatia was very entertaining. In the end England won well, but not entirely comfortably, as Croatia’s strkers always had another goal in them, their defence was resolute and their goalkeeper was player of the match by a distance.
    England’s coaching team has a tough job ahead turning the talent available into a winning combination. They have to construct an effective defence, for that wins matches and through that competitions. Scoring enough goals is a lesser problem.
  • Yes, the defence was wobbly, all that passing back to Pickford, nerve-wracking. Imagine that against France. On the plus side, I think Tuchel is fantastic.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    If only it were just passing back to Pickford! England played far too much football in their penalty area. It looked quite deliberate too so I’m sure Thomas Tuchel approves.
    I’m equally sure this will bite us in the bum sooner rather than later.
  • I was amused to see Bellingham describe the chip on his shoulder, and the Guardian guy described his goal as an angry one. Not sure about that, but a bit of aggro helps, or even fury.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Canada has Alphonso Davies available for today's match against Qatar. I am not used o seeing Canada a betting favourite in the highest level of international football.
  • The game on TV now has a female referee, I think the first I've seen. Czech v SA.
  • I mean in the World Cup.
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    sionisais wrote: »
    If only it were just passing back to Pickford! England played far too much football in their penalty area. It looked quite deliberate too so I’m sure Thomas Tuchel approves.
    I’m equally sure this will bite us in the bum sooner rather than later.

    I hate this playing out from the back.
    What happened to keepers hoofing it?
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    The Czechs were very disappointing. I remember when they were very good even since their separation from Slovakia.
    Canada looked good in thrashing a dispirited Qatar team, who had two players sent off and lost their composure completely. The loss of two players had an effect, but Canada were skilful and well organised.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    I look forward to Canada's next match against Switzerland. We lost a midfielder to a broken leg in the second half. I assume the 4 points we have now should be enough to get us through to the round of 32.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Caissa wrote: »
    ... We lost a midfielder to a broken leg in the second half ...
    Crikey - poor chap! :cry:



  • The US have a good team, fast, clever. I don't know how far they can go, semis?
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    The US have a good team, fast, clever. I don't know how far they can go, semis?

    Finals for sure
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    On the other side of the performance measurement, Turkey are out having lost both their matches, despite 62 attempts on goal in two games. That averages three minutes per attempt on goal, although they do cluster, but it’s a lot of unsuccessful shots and headers from a team that must be very disappointed.
  • I was reading various journalists reports, and it struck me how immensely enjoyable this World Cup is. Of course there are the negatives, but the football itself isn't one of those. I suppose there are lots of political issues going on that are unpleasant, but this is true about many things.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I don't have much interest in football per se, but I'm absolutely loving all that I've seen on social media about the Scottish fans, and what fun they've brought, especially regarding the correct placement of traffic cones ... :mrgreen:

    It seems the locals have really taken them to their hearts, which is how sport should be.

    ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️

  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    You’re absolutely right Piglet, The hosting cities are doing a great job, and I believe it’s rubbing off on those who don’t follow football.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Watched Netherlands play Sweden this evening. I told Mrs Sioni this could be good if the Dutch were in form or as dull as ditchwater if the Swede’s defence was its usual self.
    Fortunately, the Dutch were very good indeed. I don’t see them winning the World Cup, but they will beat England if they need to.
  • sionisais wrote: »
    If only it were just passing back to Pickford! England played far too much football in their penalty area. It looked quite deliberate too so I’m sure Thomas Tuchel approves.
    I’m equally sure this will bite us in the bum sooner rather than later.

    For what it’s worth I agree with you, but I believe the tactical idea is to draw the opponent into pressing too high up the pitch so that our quick players up front (especially the wingers) can exploit the extra space created when the ball finally goes forward.

    To be fair, it can pay off massively if done well. However, it also means that any mistakes made will likely have a massive impact as well. Risk/Reward, in other words, like a golfer going for a tricky approach shot over the water in an attempt to get the ball close to the hole rather than going for the safe route that will probably mean two putts. When it comes off you look brilliant, when it goes wrong you look shit.

    But hey, at least it’s fun to watch rather than the dour play-it-so-safe-we-ended-up-drawing-nil-nil-with-Algeria way England have often played at tournaments!
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    A couple of the favourites were in action yesterday. Argentina beat Austria 2-0 in a rather boring game. Lionel Messi scored both goals but he looked a bit off form, as if he’s beginning to find football tedious. He’s still excellent, just not top drawer.
    The France v Iraq game was different. France have a real verve and in Mbappe, Olise and Dembele some great attacking players. If they can defend properly, they could be contenders.
    NB. The France game must have set the record for duration. After a 10pm kickoff there was a two hour half time interval due to rain and thunderstorms. Match ended at just after 2 am!
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I don't have much interest in football per se, but I'm absolutely loving all that I've seen on social media about the Scottish fans, and what fun they've brought, especially regarding the correct placement of traffic cones ... :mrgreen:

    It seems the locals have really taken them to their hearts, which is how sport should be.

    ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️

    One of my brothers in Boston posted in our family chat a picture he took of Sam Adams's statue with a traffic cone on its head. (Sam was a Founding Father and signatory of the Declaration of Independence.)
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    England got nothing out of Ghana, apart from a couple of snap chances: Harry Kane, England’s leading goal scorer missed one that he would usually put away but Ghana caught England napping twice. Nil-nil is probably fair.
  • But hey, at least it’s fun to watch rather than the dour play-it-so-safe-we-ended-up-drawing-nil-nil-with-Algeria way England have often played at tournaments!

    That post aged well 🙄
  • That was classic tournament football, stymied by a good defence, but also lethargic. As many people have said, it often happens with the second game, as the realization sinks in, that we're stuck here.
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    Plus the aim is to get to the knockout stages not pretend you are there already
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    I'm an American, but I always cheer for the Old World countries of my family's heritage: The Czech Republic, Sweden, and Scotland. Right now, I'm not sure any will advance to the Group Stage. :lol:
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Canada is through and playing South Africa. My roots on my mother's side are Scottish. The BBC has a good synopsis of what it takes for Scotland to be one of the 8 3rd place teams to make it through.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Did anyone else find the BBC's coverage of Scotland a bit overdone? Was there ever any realistic chance they were going to beat Brazil?
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Did anyone else find the BBC's coverage of Scotland a bit overdone? Was there ever any realistic chance they were going to beat Brazil?

    Not after they gave such a soft goal away early on. It showed that their defence was never going to be successful and they had just one attempt at goal just before halftime. Overall I think Brazil had about twenty five attempts at goal so it could be said that they were profligate.

  • I think the Beeb get caught up in the kilts/pipes Scottish drama, and why not, the march through Boston was a wonderful sight. So the World Cup isn't just about football.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    I was talking with my son about one of the seeming differences between Scotland's and Brazil's teams was the smoothness of the Brazil squad. Something about them makes it appear as if it isn't nearly as much work for them. I know that everyone is working hard out on that pitch. Maybe it's rhythm? Or a more highly developed syntax of play?
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Watch them. The Scots run, at all times and in all directions. Loads of effort and passion.
    The Brazilians stroll, deceive and use cold skill rather than break into a sweat.
    Dare I suggest that while Christianity is the predominant religion in both countries, the influence is different. There are many Catholics in Scotland, but the Protestant work ethic is strong.
  • TheOrganistTheOrganist Shipmate
    Amazing scenes as Ecuador beat Germany last night.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited June 26
    Turkey put up a good match against the US. Too bad it really does not count in the great scheme of things other than given them bragging rights.

    You could tell we were in an American bar when the US team appeared to gain a second point, though it was called back. Some jerk yelled "Touchdown!" Members of his table looked away.

    We ended up going home to watch the second half in our living room.

    I have to say it seemed like a rough game. Some of the flagrant fouls were called but definitely not all. I had to agree with the Turkey coach when he would jump up when one of his people was fouled. The American coach? Calm, cool, collected. I do not think I ever saw him jump up. Both sides had their faults.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    I'm hopeful that the officiating tightens up a good bit moving into the knockout round. Players are getting away with way too much flagrant stuff.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    The_Riv wrote: »
    I'm hopeful that the officiating tightens up a good bit moving into the knockout round. Players are getting away with way too much flagrant stuff.
    It seems to be consistent though. Referees are all trying to stop players jostling at corners but that’s a pointless task and unless free kicks and penalties are awarded for it. I think they are under orders to let the game flow which in the longer term, teams will play to and it will get worse, VAR notwithstanding.
    VAR isn’t used well either.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Isn't Mondial a brand of scissors?
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Isn't Mondial a brand of scissors?

    It’s a popular brand name, used by separate companies producing motorcycles, kitchen goods, smart gentleman’s grooming equipment and refrigeration systems (and they should be doing well).

  • Well, England, so so, some gruesome defending, saved by Bellingham and Kane. Can you see them winning the World Cup? Not really.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    After the group stages the prizes are as follows:
    Overachievers: Cape Verde Islands
    Underachievers: Uruguay
    Luckiest qualifier for knockout stage: Senegal
    Unluckiest non-qualifier for knockout stage: Iran, deprived of a last minute winner by VAR and unbeaten.
    Note also that Cape Verde Islands qualified in second place with just three points.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Golly! I was wrong. Iran was even more unlucky than I thought. They were all but into the last 32 until the last minute of a later match between Algeria and Austria.
    These tournaments with “lucky losers” are evil I tell you.
    Is this a fiddle?.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Well, England, so so, some gruesome defending, saved by Bellingham and Kane. Can you see them winning the World Cup? Not really.

    My previous two posts should have been on the other World Cup thread, never mind.

    Can England win?
    If England get past DR Congo and if everything goes to form and reputation, England will have to beat Mexico, Brazil and Argentina to reach the final (if I’m not mistaken). I can see us beating DR Congo, but away to Mexico in summer at 7,000’ will more than justify hydration breaks. If we are successful in the Azteca then we will play some classy opponents and I fear our tournament will end at the quarterfinals, because of, as @quetzalcoatl says, some gruesome defending.

  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    sionisais wrote: »
    Golly! I was wrong. Iran was even more unlucky than I thought. They were all but into the last 32 until the last minute of a later match between Algeria and Austria.
    These tournaments with “lucky losers” are evil I tell you.
    Is this a fiddle?.

    I had been following Iran's progress too and was wondering what would have happened if Trump was obliged to hand the trophy to them--and then (poof) they were out!

    There is the story of Hitler shaking all the hands of all the gold medalists on the first day of the 1936 Olympics inn Berlin---they had all been German and Finnish up until the evening when the African American Cornelius Johnson won the gold. But Hitler suddenly left the stadium before the medal was awarded claiming he had an appointment. The IOC reprimanded Hitler telling him he had to award all the gold medals or not. He chose not to award any more.

    If Iran had been able to stay in, I would say it would have been an interesting photo for all time if they got the trophy.

    Of course, first choice for me would be USA. Barring them I am getting out the Norwegian flag and practicing the Nordisk rolng or Viking row.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Canada cracked their way into the round of 16. They will be in tough against either the Netherlands or Morocco.
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