A question about candles

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  • angloidangloid Shipmate
    Alan29 wrote: »
    Who says churches should be austere and astringent?

    Cistercians. Quakers. Respected RC liturgists like the late Aidan Kavanagh. And me! But I am happy for others to disagree.
  • Simplicity and a degree of austerity can be conducive to prayer, and a help in focussing on the liturgy. For some of us, a load of gaudy Tat has the opposite effect.
    :wink:
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Enoch wrote: »
    Besides, what's wrong with carpets?
    Musicians in the US tend to dislike carpeting churches because the carpet dampens sound, the singing of the congregation in particular. GIA Music, a Catholic publisher of liturgical music in the US, used to offer items that said “Carpet Bedrooms, Not Churches.”

    Bear in mind that many if not most churches in the US tend to be newer constructions that lack the acoustic liveliness of many older churches in the UK.


  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Bear in mind that many if not most churches in the US tend to be newer constructions that lack the acoustic liveliness of many older churches in the UK.
    A seven second reverberation time creates its own problems.

  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Bear in mind that many if not most churches in the US tend to be newer constructions that lack the acoustic liveliness of many older churches in the UK.
    A seven second reverberation time creates its own problems.
    Quite true.

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    angloid wrote: »
    Alan29 wrote: »
    Who says churches should be austere and astringent?

    Cistercians. Quakers. Respected RC liturgists like the late Aidan Kavanagh. And me! But I am happy for others to disagree.

    Austere is fine, but astringent suggests off-putting to me. Im not so happy with that.
    And there no excuse for tat ever.
  • There is, however, a place for beauty - unless the beautiful objects become themselves the objects of veneration and lead us away, rather than to, God.
  • Yes. Quite what constitutes 'tat' is rather a subjective issue, of course.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    There is, however, a place for beauty - unless the beautiful objects become themselves the objects of veneration and lead us away, rather than to, God.
    Yes. I wouldn’t say churches should be “austere,” which Merriam-Webster defines as “stern and cold in appearance or manner; somber; grave.” That doesn’t sound consistent with what the church gathers to celebrate in the church building.

    Rather than “austere,” I think what might be commended is “simplicity.” Simplicity can be quite warm and beautiful.


  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    I worry about slipping on tiles.
  • So does my wife. Loose rugs (over brasses etc) can also be trip hazards.

    Nonconformist churches tend to be "functional" rather than beautiful, although some of the older ones (with carved woodwork, decorative plastered ceilings, ornate columns under the gallery and jolly paintwork) can be rather lovely. The oldest are austere and homespun: https://walpoleoldchapel.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/architecture1-1.jpg
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