Season of Creation/Feast of Creation in Christ

Today is the First Day of the Season of Creation.

What are the pros and cons of incorporating a new liturgical season in the church year? The major con I see is that if a church is using the RCL, that the readings do not match the themes of the season, unless special propers are created for Creationtide.

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  • I'm afraid Our Place (conservative and 'traditionalist' - let the Reader understand) rigorously eschews all such vain things fondly invented, and sticks to what I suppose is the RCL.

    That's not to say that Creation Season is wrong - we (generic we) need to be far more aware of the risks to creation and the environment.
  • I must be honest and say that I've looked at some of the "Season of Creation" resources (URC, CofE, CofS) and found them confusing.

    There does appear to be a set of non-RCL readings for next Sunday but the following weeks seem to squeeze the theme into the usual reading, eg https://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/worship/weekly-worship/weekly-worship-2026-september. I'm not too happy with this, I think it would have been better to ditch the RCL if one was going to include this new "Season".

  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited September 1
    That's not to say that Creation Season is wrong - we (generic we) need to be far more aware of the risks to creation and the environment.
    Yes, and it perhaps is a necessary contrast to the rose-tinted bucolic (but unrealistic) nostalgia of so many Harvest Festivals (ducks as he is pelted with marrows, tomatoes, tins of baked beans and other produce).

    It also "fills in" that long post-Trinity pre-Advent season of Ordinary Time.

    But I'm not entirely convinced.

    And BTW I'm going to find Harvest really hard this year, in view of the poor yields and farmers' difficulties. It has palpably not been bounteous nor safely gathered in.

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    In RC places it is marked in the intercessions and homilies, and possibly in the gifts that are brought up at the offertory. There might well be displays too.
    There are Liturgical resources too
    https://worlddaycreation.com/en/mass-texts/
  • That's not to say that Creation Season is wrong - we (generic we) need to be far more aware of the risks to creation and the environment.
    Yes, and it perhaps is a necessary contrast to the rose-tinted bucolic (but unrealistic) nostalgia of so many Harvest Festivals (ducks as he is pelted with marrows, tomatoes, tins of baked beans and other produce).

    It also "fills in" that long post-Trinity pre-Advent season of Ordinary Time.

    But I'm not entirely convinced.

    And BTW I'm going to find Harvest really hard this year, in view of the poor yields and farmers' difficulties. It has palpably not been bounteous nor safely gathered in.

    Agreed. No doubt Our Place will be singing about ploughing the fields, scattering the good seed on the land, breezes, sunshine, and soft refreshing rain...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I don't mind ploughing the fields and scattering for Harvest Festival, but I find a whole month of Creation a bit wearing, especially as it seems to be an excuse to bugger about with the words of the liturgy (again). :grimace:
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    That's not to say that Creation Season is wrong - we (generic we) need to be far more aware of the risks to creation and the environment.
    Yes, and it perhaps is a necessary contrast to the rose-tinted bucolic (but unrealistic) nostalgia of so many Harvest Festivals (ducks as he is pelted with marrows, tomatoes, tins of baked beans and other produce).

    It also "fills in" that long post-Trinity pre-Advent season of Ordinary Time.

    But I'm not entirely convinced.

    And BTW I'm going to find Harvest really hard this year, in view of the poor yields and farmers' difficulties. It has palpably not been bounteous nor safely gathered in.

    Agreed. No doubt Our Place will be singing about ploughing the fields, scattering the good seed on the land, breezes, sunshine, and soft refreshing rain...

    Give the impact that climate change is having on our farmers it would seem insulting and crass to mark the harvest in those terms.
  • angloidangloid Shipmate
    The C of E has authorised propers and readings for the first Sunday in September - the festival of Christ in Creation. It might have taken many places by surprise this year, but we intend to observe it. Quite how, and how effectively, we shall see. But after this torrid summer and its reminder of the climate crisis, it's important to mark it, and it could be a fresh slant on the rather jaded 'Harvest Festival'.
  • I’ve literally never heard of this until now. 😮

    Have a happy one, then, to all who celebrate!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Creation
  • Hard to see the point of this: reminds me of JP2’s introduction of the so-called “luminous mysteries of the Rosary”..🙄
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    Sojourner wrote: »
    Hard to see the point of this: reminds me of JP2’s introduction of the so-called “luminous mysteries of the Rosary”..🙄

    Why do you think those mysteries are not luminous?

    Iirc, those mysteries were brought in to tie the Rosary as a devotional more closely to Scripture and the life of Christ.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.

    Agreed. The way the world is going, what with climate crisis and all, this is a good idea. Anecdotal evidence suggests that at least some Places do so as a matter of course.

    In many parishes, the traditional and somewhat bucolic Harvest Festival has no real place, but this probably doesn't apply to those in rural and agricultural areas.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    Sojourner wrote: »
    Hard to see the point of this: reminds me of JP2’s introduction of the so-called “luminous mysteries of the Rosary”..🙄

    Why do you think those mysteries are not luminous?

    Iirc, those mysteries were brought in to tie the Rosary as a devotional more closely to Scripture and the life of Christ.
    .

    Another case if over-egging the pudding,that’swhy.

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Pomona wrote: »
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.

    Agreed. The way the world is going, what with climate crisis and all, this is a good idea. Anecdotal evidence suggests that at least some Places do so as a matter of course.

    In many parishes, the traditional and somewhat bucolic Harvest Festival has no real place, but this probably doesn't apply to those in rural and agricultural areas.

    I've suggested a few times that we should keep a Thanksgiving for Lambing around the end of April. Harvest here is largely grass cut for silage. Important, but not as significant as lambing or the big sale days.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Pomona wrote: »
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.

    Agreed. The way the world is going, what with climate crisis and all, this is a good idea. Anecdotal evidence suggests that at least some Places do so as a matter of course.

    In many parishes, the traditional and somewhat bucolic Harvest Festival has no real place, but this probably doesn't apply to those in rural and agricultural areas.

    I think churches in agricultural areas might well be aware of the climate crisis.
  • Alan29 wrote: »
    Pomona wrote: »
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.

    Agreed. The way the world is going, what with climate crisis and all, this is a good idea. Anecdotal evidence suggests that at least some Places do so as a matter of course.

    In many parishes, the traditional and somewhat bucolic Harvest Festival has no real place, but this probably doesn't apply to those in rural and agricultural areas.

    I think churches in agricultural areas might well be aware of the climate crisis.

    Of course, but they may still be able to keep the traditional Harvest-Home, or whatever, bearing that in mind.
  • angloidangloid Shipmate
    Pomona wrote: »
    Wrt Creationtide - I would rather environmental themes be included throughout the year rather than give especial attention to late summer.

    It's not either/or. That's like saying that, as the Resurrection is at the heart of the Church's life, we don't need to observe Easter.
  • True, and I can think of some traditions which seem focussed on Christ's death all year round but rarely seem to get to the Resurrection!
  • Well, despite what I said earlier, it looks as though Our Place is going to observe 'Creation In Christ' etc., and a pastoral letter on the subject from our Diocesan Bishop is to be read out in church tomorrow.

    I'm not sure if special propers are to be used, or if FatherInCharge is sticking with those for Trinity 14.

    Our Harvest Festival is in October, but FinC has duly noted that, locally at least, harvest-time was in late July!

    On the subject of the environment in general, the C of E is encouraging parishes to aim for net zero, and to become as eco-friendly as possible. Our Place has done a considerable amount of work on the Hall - used by a Nursery School during the week, but by the congregation for weekend events - and it now has a fine false ceiling and new double-glazed windows. Both the Hall and the Church have large expanses of south-facing roof, so solar panels may be the next project...
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited September 5
    Our church has just installed solar panels. They won't do anything for the heating, which is gas, but should supply most of the electricity we require. The building itself is fairly energy efficient and has had double glazing for years.
  • Yes, our heating is by gas, but it's certainly worth considering solar panels anyway.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    If you instal solar panels and don't use all the electricity they generate, can you sell it back to the grid?
  • AIUI, you can, but don't expect to make much of a profit...
  • I should get 12p per unit.
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