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  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Monday Aug. 19, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Sunday, 8/18/19
    18
    US Injuries by gun violence Sunday, 8/18/19:
    58
    Incidents in 25 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Tuesday Aug. 20, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Monday, 8/19/19
    14
    US Injuries by gun violence Monday, 8/19/19:
    44
    Incidents in 23 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 1
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • this is powerful stuff Ohher.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    this is powerful stuff Ohher.

    Can't take credit for the info or its power, but it takes some little time to put this together every day. I public-post it on Facebook every day too. Few responses or reactions there.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    If you wish to take this piece of activism forward, perhaps you could set up a twitter account and tweet the same info. You could then @ the major news outlets into the tweet - maybe using ‘is it time yet’ as a hashtag.

    This format would fit in their character limit:

    @bbcnews @cnn #isittimeyet Tuesday Aug. 20, 2019‬
    ‪US Deaths by gun violence Monday, 8/19/19: 14‬
    ‪US Injuries by gun violence Monday, 8/19/19: 44‬
    ‪Incidents in 23 states, not including those with no casualties‬
    ‪DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING: 1‬
    ‪Source GunViolenceArchive.org‬

    (You could omit the date on the first line, as tweets are dated anyway, and @ additional news orgs.)
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Thanks, DT! I am a Twitter virgin.
  • If you do that, I'll get back on and follow the account.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host, Glory
    Thank you for these posts, @Ohher.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Wednesday Aug. 21, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Tuesday, 8/20/19
    18
    US Injuries by gun violence Tuesday, 8/20/19:
    33
    Incidents in 17 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 2
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org

  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Huia wrote: »
    In this context what is the "Arwen" please?

    Good that no guns were used.

    Apparently it's a kind of plastic projectile.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARWEN_37


    There are also Calgary Police demonstration videos on YouTube.

    AFZ

    Thanks - I kept getting LOTR references.

    Ohher - Thank you. The relentlessness of death toll is chilling.
  • Ohher wrote: »
    IS IT TIME YET? Wednesday Aug. 21, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Tuesday, 8/20/19
    18
    US Injuries by gun violence Tuesday, 8/20/19:
    33
    Incidents in 17 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 2
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
    Back to zero. Fortunately, no deaths, but four injuries.

  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Two days seems to be our upper limit, and in this case, I collected data between midnight and 1 a.m. before the archive had counted this. Apparently I really do have to wait until breakfast to post these reports, though I dislike starting my day with this task.
  • https://twitter.com/6abc/status/1162680472549416962

    Back to school gun sale. What a concept. It's for teachers says the store. Insane.

    I also learned about log-cabin Republicans today. They also sound insane.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host, Glory
    ...I also learned about log-cabin Republicans today. They also sound insane.
    I cannot tell you how disgusted my gay friends are over this.

  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Thursday Aug. 22, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Wednesday, 8/21/19
    17
    US Injuries by gun violence Wednesday, 8/21/19:
    33
    Incidents in 22 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 1
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Friday Aug. 23, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Wednesday, 8/22/19
    24
    US Injuries by gun violence Wednesday, 8/22/19:
    46
    Incidents in 28 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org

  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    edited August 2019
    back to zero again - cripes.

    Given the numbers involved, I reckon PBS should scroll the names of victims over a selection of pictures.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Might be tough getting a sponsor backer for programming like that.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Ohher wrote: »
    Two days seems to be our upper limit, and in this case, I collected data between midnight and 1 a.m. before the archive had counted this. Apparently I really do have to wait until breakfast to post these reports, though I dislike starting my day with this task.

    Ohher, I find the stats you post really depressing, but I figure that as you have made a commitment to doing so, the least I can do is make a commitment to reading them, Thank you.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Saturday Aug. 24, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Friday, 8/23/19
    15
    US Injuries by gun violence Friday, 8/23/19:
    51
    Incidents in 29 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host, Glory
    Huia wrote: »
    Ohher, I find the stats you post really depressing, but I figure that as you have made a commitment to doing so, the least I can do is make a commitment to reading them, Thank you.
    Yes, thank you, Ohher.


  • Robert ArminRobert Armin Shipmate, Glory
    Ohher, while I'm grateful to you for posting this stuff, I'm worried about the effect it might be having on you. Are you ok? And my apologies if I'm being patronising.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Thanks you for your concern, Robert (and I do appreciate it), but given the state our entire planet is in (to say nothing of the so-called government of the once-semi-reasonable country I inhabit), plus the fact that I live in an open-carry, concealed-carry state with almost NO gun restrictions (though with very low incidence of gun violence), plus the fact that the community college where I start the fall semester Monday morning has just installed LOCKDOWN buttons all over campus, I'll cope. (Like there's an alternative.)

    I await with grim amusement the moment this term when some wet-behind-the-ears 18-year-old doofus from East New Overshoe locates one of these eye-catching neon purple lockdown buttons and hits it to see what will happen (or to get out of a quiz, or whatever).
    Frankly, that is far and away the likeliest use of these devices.

    I am now launching a search for another way to earn my bread, because at the end of this academic year I hope to retire from our little fear factory college.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Sunday Aug. 25, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Saturday, 8/24/19
    28
    US Injuries by gun violence Saturday, 8/24/19
    75
    Incidents in 30 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • Ohher, this is chilling reading. I had no idea it was so bad...
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Dormouse wrote: »
    Ohher, this is chilling reading. I had no idea it was so bad...

    Yes, but. Keep in mind these stats include a Saturday night, when people are apt to have imbibed more alcohol than is advisable, and parts of the US are dealing with extreme heat, which always seems to up the gun violence rates.

    That said, stats for 8/24 also include 3 mass shootings (in Florida, Massachusetts, and Maryland) accounting for 3 deaths and 12 injuries.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Monday Aug. 26, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Sunday, 8/25/19
    17
    US Injuries by gun violence Sunday, 8/25/19
    59
    Incidents in 25 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • fuck
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Tuesday Aug. 27, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Monday Aug. 26, 2019
    13
    US Injuries by gun violence Monday Aug. 26, 2019
    51
    Incidents in 24 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 1
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org

  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Wednesday Aug. 28, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Tuesday Aug. 27, 2019
    18
    US Injuries by gun violence Tuesday Aug. 27, 2019
    34
    Incidents in 20 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 2
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Thursday Aug. 29, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Wednesday Aug. 28, 2019
    5
    US Injuries by gun violence Wednesday Aug. 28, 2019
    20
    Incidents in 14 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 3
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • Whoa! Three days! (I know it's sad that we should be celebrating a measly 3 days without a mass shooting, and plenty of people die in onesy-twosy shootings as well. Call it black humor to cope with the horrible reality.)
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    We've got a three-day weekend (for Labor Day) this weekend, Often means (too much) alcohol, short tempers, traffic, possibly hot weather, road rage, a weekend that's both too long and not long enough*, arguments and people-messes, etc. Add in guns of any kind...
    (:paranoid:)

    *Americans typically have fewer holidays off (paid or unpaid) and less paid vacation than Europeans. So a three-day weekend is a big deal, sometimes occasioned with much grumping about having to go back to work, and Other People having it easier.

  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Whoa! Three days! (I know it's sad that we should be celebrating a measly 3 days without a mass shooting, and plenty of people die in onesy-twosy shootings as well. Call it black humor to cope with the horrible reality.)

    I know; I was shocked. I had to check the site pages 2-3 times (and wondered if maybe someone at Gun Violence Archive was out sick, so no updates) because for the first time since I started this there was less than one full page of stats to add up (there are usually 3 pages).

    Sadly, GK is probably right: we may well "catch up" over the holiday weekend.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Just re-checked the site: Sadly, I was right about an incomplete update, but do not have time to correct until much later today.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Thursday Aug. 29, 2019
    CORRECTED
    US Deaths by gun violence Wednesday Aug. 28, 2019
    22
    US Injuries by gun violence Wednesday Aug. 28, 2019
    51
    Incidents in 30 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 3
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
    Apologies: data collected before site fully updated;
    any errors mine.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Friday Aug. 30, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Thursday Aug. 29, 2019
    20
    US Injuries by gun violence Thursday Aug. 29, 2019
    42
    Incidents in 26 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    IS IT TIME YET? Saturday Aug. 31, 2019

    US Deaths by gun violence Friday Aug. 30, 2019
    19
    US Injuries by gun violence Friday Aug. 30, 2019
    55
    Incidents in 24 states*
    *Does not include shootings with no casualties

    DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING**: 0
    **4 or more deaths/injuries to victims

    Information courtesy of GunViolenceArchive.org
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Major live active shooter event in Odessa Texas at the moment.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Major live active shooter event in Odessa Texas at the moment.

    Alas, yes. I heard this on the news -- at least 20 victims, as many as 5 deaths -- while checking my stats and discovering something's not adding up. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong, and also to redesign my format (now that school's back in full swing).
  • WHAT THE EVERLASTING FUCK?

    It's a bit after 8 p.m. where I'm posting. There have been 5, FIVE mass shootings this Saturday so far, in Maryland (0 dead, 4 injured), North Carolina (1 dead, 3 injured), Pennsylvania (2 dead, 2 injured), South Carolina (0 dead, 4 injured), and Texas (5 dead, 21 injured).

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH US?
  • edited September 2019
    Meanwhile do all teachers get training in treating sucking gunshot wounds in USA?

    https://twitter.com/tonydokoupil/status/1167088120493481984?s=20

    Somehow I don't think any form of protest, disagreement, upset, mass murder will make any difference. A prior story was how to make schools like prisons so that a success would be fewer people killed. Ohher, your posts are wrenching, so they signify anything? So bad. So frustrating.

    Makes me wonder if random gun murders are good for business there. Guns, bullets, coffins, security systems, those sorts of things. Seem to recall that there was a run on some gadget that makes semi automatic rifles operate like automatics after that Las Vegas mass murder. Do guns also sell more after someone does big killing? Are more dead people better for business? :throw-up:
  • Nothing will change until the GOP release their stranglehold on our government.
  • mousethief wrote: »
    Nothing will change until the GOP release their stranglehold on our government.

    This means more than exchanging leaders?
  • There has been a shooting in Alabama too, 10 injured, some critically, at a high school football game.
  • It means changing our culture. I have been looking at TV schedules for weeks now, looking for something entertaining to watch in the odd free evening. I used to complain about all the brain-dead sitcoms; then switched my ire to "reality" TV, but now? Granted, I have a low-budget cable subscription, but the crime dramas are vastly outnumbering everything else. You can scarcely turn the TV on through umpty-leven channels without viewing gun violence.

    It means challenging the myth of redemptive violence.

    It means changing our language. I just this minute almost typed, "It means shooting down the myth of . . . " instead of "changing the myth of the Lone Hero Good Guy Slaughtering All the Bad Guys to Solve All the Problems." It means not talking about "fighting" for everything in our political discourse, but "working" for it instead. It means we stop claiming we're "fighting" our diabetes, our cancer, our heart disease, our assorted other ills, instead of saying we're "treating" these. It means demanding that our media stop presenting complex multifaceted issues as one side "fighting" some other.

    It means we start requiring that people who wish to own guns be required to purchase liability policies starting at $100,000. One per firearm. Can't show proof of insurance for the WWI Luger Gramps passed down to you? You get every firearm you own confiscated.

    It means limiting the amounts of ammo you can legally store in your residence(s).

    It means you submit to annual (at least) inspections of your storage, collections, ammo stockpiles, etc. It means you show up for 2 hours minimum of monthly target practice at a registered gun range if you want to own firearms.

    It means every ownership transfer of every firearm gets registered, and a background check is performed with every transfer.

    It means that police who retire and military personnel who separate from their services surrender their service weapons, and these surrenders are registered.

  • Golden Key said we could expect things to get worse over the long weekend. She was (alas) right.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    There was an Ohio dad who reported his teen son last Wednesday for possibly taking a gun to school. He did have a gun, and it was confiscated. Reportedly, no one knows where he got it, nor what (if anything) he planned to do.

    Details at Yahoo.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host, Glory
    And the long weekend is just one-third over. Kyrie eleison.
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