Coping in the Time of Covid-19 - New and Improved!

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  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Just when you thought that Boris's position could not get any more humorous come the news that the investigator appointed to the enquiry into the Christmas Party has been forced to quit - he had himself breached the rules!
  • Hmm, Southwark and Lambeth are our usual stops in SL. Worrying. Also, round here is pushing at the previous envelopes of cases. I've had my booster but friend isn't due quite yet. He's past three months, but the medical evidence was definitely 6 - the three is not based on physiology. And then he has to blag his way in because of the registration issue.
  • Gee D wrote: »
    Just when you thought that Boris's position could not get any more humorous come the news that the investigator appointed to the enquiry into the Christmas Party has been forced to quit - he had himself breached the rules!

    I have an arse he can kiss if he wants sympathy.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Got my booster jag this morning. But, they're not doing the 'flu jag at the same time now, so I'm now going to need to find out how to book that. But, maybe with increasing social distancing maybe we'll all skip 'flu again this winter and I can skip it.
  • I wasn't offered the flu vaccine with the Covid19 booster here either. It doesn't seem that common.

    There was no easy way of booking the flu vaccine, other than the local Boots chemist, right at the back of the store in a glass box, which I didn't fancy in case I had a bad reaction. I didn't try, I suspect they wouldn't have wanted to jab me either. Plus in case I reacted badly, which I have a history of so doing, I wanted the Covid19 booster first. So no flu vaccine here, again.
  • I had my flu jab via Boots Chemist as soon as it was offered in October. (I have never bothered until last year, when my GP practice called me for one and i thought Id better accept...) I'm in the category where it is free of charge...
    I didn't have any side effects beyond a sore arm, which is usual with me after an injection.
  • I'm due my booster tomorrow. I may well have had a reaction to the flu jab from work - never had a problem before, but this time I was exhausted within a couple of hours, and home and in bed by 8! Driving home was... interesting
  • The known allergic reaction to the flu jab is a swollen painful lump in the arm.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    I am totally gobsmacked. I knew that Canterbury (the region Christchurch is is part of) was doing well for vaccination rates, but today it was announced that 98% have had their first jab and 94% their second. I don't know if having active cases of Omicron (who have come from overseas and are in Managed Isolation here for 14 days) or because you can't dine out or go to the pub or the library without a vaccine passport.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    edited December 2021
    Something weird happened to my post. :cry:
  • I had my third Covid jab weeks ago, but can’t get a flu jab anywhere. They have been organised via work previously but now the advice seems to be to go to your GP or pharmacy - neither of which has any available when I’ve asked. I’m not particularly worried for myself, never having had flu, but I am a little concerned on behalf of the numerous people I visit in their own homes (this is essential for assessing problems with hoisting etc) and also for my parents in law, if we manage to visit them in January as planned.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Aravis wrote: »
    I had my third Covid jab weeks ago, but can’t get a flu jab anywhere. They have been organised via work previously but now the advice seems to be to go to your GP or pharmacy - neither of which has any available when I’ve asked. I’m not particularly worried for myself, never having had flu, but I am a little concerned on behalf of the numerous people I visit in their own homes (this is essential for assessing problems with hoisting etc) and also for my parents in law, if we manage to visit them in January as planned.

    Given that R for 'flu is lower than for covid, masks and hand hygiene should help a lot.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    I wasn't offered the flu vaccine with the Covid19 booster here either. It doesn't seem that common.

    There was no easy way of booking the flu vaccine, other than the local Boots chemist, right at the back of the store in a glass box, which I didn't fancy in case I had a bad reaction. I didn't try, I suspect they wouldn't have wanted to jab me either. Plus in case I reacted badly, which I have a history of so doing, I wanted the Covid19 booster first. So no flu vaccine here, again.

    We had our usual flu vaccines at the beginning of winter. So the progression was first Covid, normal flu shot, second Covid and then 5 months later the Covid booster, all done by the nurse at our normal GPs' practice. The only reaction was having some aches across our shoulders the day after the Covid booster - unpleasant but not enough to worry about. Certainly not enough to prevent our going to what turned out to be an excellent concert the day after the booster.
  • Medical advice last winter was to prioritise the Covid19 vaccine above the flu vaccine for me. Not that I've seen a GP since.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    The doctor who gave me the Covid booster more-or-less assumed I'd want the flu jag as well, so one in each arm it was.
  • The known allergic reaction to the flu jab is a swollen painful lump in the arm.

    It could just be that I was knackered, but it's not every day I'm so knackered I fall asleep at my desk at work! Could have been worse, I' s'pose, could have been the lab...
  • ...or whilst driving... :scream:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I think feeling tired is quite a common reaction too: I know I did.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    I find it is quite a common reaction to life at the moment.
  • Yes. I find myself sleeping far too much, which AIUI is possibly a symptom of depression...

    Mind you, today's cold, grey, foggy, drizzly weather exactly matches my mood.
  • Ethne AlbaEthne Alba Shipmate
    edited December 2021
    If not in employment or having caring responsibilities, I always assume that sleeping a lot in December is merely Hibernation and that ‘s without coping with Covid !

  • Ethne Alba wrote: »
    If not in employment or having caring responsibilities, I always assume that sleeping a lot in December is merely Hibernation and that ‘s without coping with Covid !

    Up to a point, yes - but it's getting silly when I barely catch 2 or 3 hours of daylight (or what passes for daylight at the moment).
  • Ah yes, but it’s all going to change very soon isn’t it ?
    (attempting to sound as if I know what I am talking about!)

    What I mean is
    The daylight hours will get longer and us lowly mortals will miraculously get a little more alert and lively

    At least I am living in hope that this will happen!
  • Yes, you're right - after Tuesday, the days will indeed lighten and brighten, albeit rather slowly...as to whether I become more alert and lively, that remains to be seen. Maybe somewhere about half-past March, or a quarter to April.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    I wish I could send all those who need it a burst of sunshine. Dawn was at 5.43am and sunset will be at 9.12pm.
  • That would be nice Huia - it's very grey today, but Sat was OK. I had to collect a 2nd-hand mattress off a bloke (I know, I'm losing the run of myself with this kind of self-indulgence) and picking it up meant tying it to the roof of the car. I was really glad it was bright sunshine and not raining. Unfortunately the new mattress is mega-springy and under-damped, so every time I move the repercussions are lengthy. Luckily it is a single mattress and anyway at this stage of life, hitting a forced resonance seems rather unlikely. I suspect that googling the words 'damp' and 'mattress' is not going to give me the hits I need :smile:

    Anyway, I came here to bemoan the fact that elder daughter is positive (but well, thankfully). So that's Mum, Dad, Sis and all out the window this Christmas.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Anyway, I came here to bemoan the fact that elder daughter is positive (but well, thankfully). So that's Mum, Dad, Sis and all out the window this Christmas.
    Very sorry to hear that @mark_in_manchester . My son (Nenlet2) has also contacted us this morning to say he is feeling unwell and has had a positive lateral flow test. He has a PCR booked for later today but I'm pretty certain he has the virus. He and his partner were meant to be coming here for Christmas. :disappointed:

    We had a family gathering last week for my birthday so I'm grateful for that. Mr Nen and I are doing lateral flows: negative so far. After I've done one of those things, however, I always become symptomatic with a tickly cough and a runny nose. >rolleyes<
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    That's presumably due to sticking things down your throat and/or up your nose.
  • Nenya wrote: »
    We had a family gathering last week for my birthday so I'm grateful for that. Mr Nen and I are doing lateral flows: negative so far. After I've done one of those things, however, I always become symptomatic with a tickly cough and a runny nose. >rolleyes<
    Piglet wrote: »
    That's presumably due to sticking things down your throat and/or up your nose.

    And particularly helpful if you're supposed to be testing (say) daily.... (they make me sneeze enormously, and my eyes run)
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    My son is off for his third booster today. I'm hopeful he will get here for Christmas, he's due to arrive on Wednesday.
    My brother and family still haven't made their mind up if they are coming. SiL is convinced my nephew in Y8 will have got the virus by the time school ends tomorrow.
  • We are having a family get tother (Boris and the virus permitting) on Thursday, first one for years, but with 4 school age children, all different schools/classes I'm crossing my fingers very hard. As a very aged AP the family are very conscious that I am Vulnerable! But among the six great grandchildren, there is one I haven't even met and she is nearly two!

    Some sun would be nice that day, but I don't want to be greedy!
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited December 2021
    I had a Christmas card/message today from my cousin R and his wife P wot live in north London, bemoaning the fact that we haven't met up for nearly two years now. The monthly family gatherings organised at their house by R and P are notorious for the amount of WINE usually drunken, along with P's fabulous cookery...

    R and P are also very good at Painting The Ark (that is, sloshing large quantities of black tar varnish onto the hull), and hope to repeat the exercise (Dread Lord Omicron permitting) next Spring.

    I'm sorry to hear of so many Christmas gatherings being scuppered or endangered. Zoom and Skype are all very well, but no real substitute for the Real Thing...
  • I think getting the family gathering in Early is the way to go atm. Really hoping all goes well @Thomasina and that all the generations have a great time!
  • My grandchildren have just spent the weekend with their father’s parents. My daughter wants their Dad, her ex, to cancel their pantomime visit on Thursday, if it is still running, to reduce the risk of getting Covid before next weekend, as there are more sets of grandparents to spend time with on 25, 26, 27 (Thanks to remarriages at various levels, there are about 10 seniors in their lives).
  • Pantomimes are rapidly ceasing hereabouts. A local show (having successfully put on the matinee) cancelled the 6pm show after people had entered the theatre, bought drinks, toys etc., and sat down!

    Much indignation ensued, understandably, but the reason given was that yet more staff and players had tested positive for Ye Plague. There were no performances scheduled for today, but AIUI the next four shows at least have also been cancelled.
  • Much indignation ensued, understandably, but the reason given was that yet more staff and players had tested positive for Ye Plague.

    Well, you can't put on a panto if you don't have a cast. At some point, you run out of understudies.

    #2 child is currently isolating in their room having been in a ballet this weekend, and subsequently discovered that a dancer in the same dressing room had tested positive. After the fact, we discover that said dancer had been coughing a bit the day before the show, but didn't want to let people down by backing out. :angry:

    Child in question is fully vaccinated, everyone was reasonably disciplined about mask-wearing, and probably isn't required to isolate per CDC rules, but has developed an excess of caution. How much this is driven by a desire to miss the last couple of days of school, I couldn't say...
  • Much indignation ensued, understandably, but the reason given was that yet more staff and players had tested positive for Ye Plague.

    Well, you can't put on a panto if you don't have a cast. At some point, you run out of understudies.
    <snip>

    Indeed, and the cancellation (granted, only minutes before the show was due to start) is entirely understandable. The fact that some members of the audience saw fit to boo and heckle says more about them than anything else.

  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Booing and heckling should only happen when the baddie appears on stage. Though, maybe the appearance of coronavirus counts as the baddie.
  • O no it doesn't!
    O yes it does!


    Quite right, although I can understand the annoyance felt by parents who'd just forked out £££ for various panto-related Tat, only to find the show cancelled, and then having to cope with squalling and disappointed offspring (who will doubtless need counselling, and whose Lives will have been Ruined for ever...)
  • Quite right, although I can understand the annoyance felt by parents who'd just forked out £££ for various panto-related Tat, only to find the show cancelled, and then having to cope with squalling and disappointed offspring (who will doubtless need counselling, and whose Lives will have been Ruined for ever...)

    Oh, it's understandable, but shit does happen. What would they actually want the theatre to do? The cast is sick. There aren't enough people here to put on the show. All they can do is apologise, refund the tickets, and send everyone away. It's like yelling at the guy whose car won't start because he's blocking the way - what are you hoping to achieve here? Do they think if they yell loudly enough, the theatre will discover that they actually do have a spare panto cast stashed away somewhere?
  • Well, quite. As you rightly say, shit happens.

    The news report didn't say whether refunds had been offered, but the venue is a respectable town-centre theatre, so I expect they have been.

    I doubt whether refunds for Tat, drinks, sweets etc. will be offered, even though the Hearts of Little Children have been Broken.

    (That was irony. The majority of parents - and children - accepted the situation, I'm sure, despite the disappointment).
  • Seems like a great opportunity to say to your kids 'OK, this serious thing which is going on and which you've heard of, is now affecting us. Time to do your bit.'
  • I expect many of the parents did just that - but, as always, it's the empty vessels that make the most noise...
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I ill-advisedly clicked on a FB ad for masks just to see what they cost (£13.99! On yer bike.) Now of course I'm being bombarded with mask ads.
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    O no it doesn't!
    O yes it does!


    Quite right, although I can understand the annoyance felt by parents who'd just forked out £££ for various panto-related Tat, only to find the show cancelled, and then having to cope with squalling and disappointed offspring (who will doubtless need counselling, and whose Lives will have been Ruined for ever...)

    'It's behind you' seems like a relevant thing to call out about Covid as well 😖
  • Mili wrote: »
    O no it doesn't!
    O yes it does!


    Quite right, although I can understand the annoyance felt by parents who'd just forked out £££ for various panto-related Tat, only to find the show cancelled, and then having to cope with squalling and disappointed offspring (who will doubtless need counselling, and whose Lives will have been Ruined for ever...)

    'It's behind you' seems like a relevant thing to call out about Covid as well 😖

    Indeed, although *it's around you* might be more accurate...

    Never mind. Jesus Himself has told us to get boosted, according to Boris Johnson.
  • Christmas services at church will carry on as usual with open doors, masks, and fans. There will also be outdoor seating for those who are ready to brave the added cold. There are new cameras and sound systems for broadcasts as well, so I think I will watch from home.
  • Very sensible.

    I think Our Place's Midnight Mass and the Christmas morning Mass (very informal) are both scheduled to be livestreamed on The Book Of Face, but I hope a reasonable number of folk turn up anyway - all guidance is being followed.

    Mind you, rain is falling now, and is forecast to continue well into tomorrow...
  • Heavy rain, too.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    We watched the livestream from Our Place yesterday evening, which felt to us to be much the safest thing to do.
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