TICTH Greg Abbott, Governor of Texas

Oh dear God no. Some people are just itching for a second US Civil War. Pray for us please. :( And for the migrants. And for the souls of the dead who died because Texas would not let the Federal officials help them. God have mercy. I didn't know about that last one...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/border-standoff-between-texas-feds-intensifies-as-governor-defies-supreme-court-ruling
This week, the Supreme Court sided with federal agents to remove razor wire put in place by Texas along the Rio Grande. The state is using wire and state agents to block Border Patrol from accessing a section of the border in Eagle Pass. Homeland Security is demanding access to the area by Friday, but Gov. Greg Abbott is doubling down.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/three-migrants-drown-us-border-amid-dispute-between-texas-white-house-2024-01-14/
Jan 13 (Reuters) - A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande as they tried to the enter the U.S. from Mexico on Friday night after Texas military officers prevented federal border officials from aiding them, U.S. border officials and a member of Congress said.
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  • Yeah, Greg Abbott is a truly heartless a-hole.
  • The5thMary wrote: »
    Yeah, Greg Abbott is a truly heartless a-hole.

    They seem to fall over each other to be the most unpleasant.
  • President Biden could call up the Texas National Guard and order them to remove the barbed wire. If they refuse, they can be court-martialed. This would be an extreme measure to take, and I regard it as unlikely.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    HarryCH wrote: »
    President Biden could call up the Texas National Guard and order them to remove the barbed wire. If they refuse, they can be court-martialed. This would be an extreme measure to take, and I regard it as unlikely.

    I think, however, that federalising the guard would give Biden an opportunity to show some strength, as well as do the right thing. What the reaction would be beyond whining on Fox is anyone's guess.
  • HarryCH wrote: »
    President Biden could call up the Texas National Guard and order them to remove the barbed wire. If they refuse, they can be court-martialed. This would be an extreme measure to take, and I regard it as unlikely.

    I think, however, that federalising the guard would give Biden an opportunity to show some strength, as well as do the right thing. What the reaction would be beyond whining on Fox is anyone's guess.

    Probably alot of states-rights outrage in solid-red states, which wouldn't matter to Biden's prospects. The reaction in purple states would be the one to watch.
  • Texas has always claimed special status. It had been an independent republic for ten years before it was annexed by the United States. Nevertheless, it still acts as a republic in many ways. For instance, it is not completely tied into the regional electric power system with only two trunk lines connecting to other states. Other states have multiple connections. Every so often the Texas legislature will consider resolutions to disassociate from the United States. It is not just Abbot. He represents a sizeable minority that believes in Texas first.
  • You can likewise say that Hawaii has a special status. It was its own independent country until colonial powers, ultimately the U.S., took it over.

    Does anyone ever suggest breaking up Texas into several smaller states? (Or California, for that matter?)
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    HarryCH wrote: »
    You can likewise say that Hawaii has a special status. It was its own independent country until colonial powers, ultimately the U.S., took it over.

    Does anyone ever suggest breaking up Texas into several smaller states? (Or California, for that matter?)

    There is something in the resolution admitting Texas to the union about creating additional states, but what would be required to implement that is disputed. The impetus that previously might have driven such an effort (that Texas was safely "red" and could deliver additional Republican senators if divided) is no longer as reliable. There are, I understand, suggestions of dividing California, usually from rural parts of the state who don't feel represented by the big cities.
  • HarryCH wrote: »
    Does anyone ever suggest breaking up Texas into several smaller states? (Or California, for that matter?)
    There have been many proposals for splitting up California. Many involve 2 entities, and I believe some have proposed as many as 7 (if memory serves).
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