Ship's New League Of Health And Fitness

KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
edited July 2024 in All Saints
Given the old one has gone the way of all flesh.

I've just finished Couch25K. Well, Couch 2 30mins which is rather more like 3.5K for me.

I'm quite glad I've finished it as I did discover that while I can run if I really force myself it's still on a par with being flogged with stinging nettles in terms of enjoyment. So it's been a great motivator to get back on the bike as an alternative.

Now, losing weight - that's the hard one, because cheese. I can sub that out for low fat cottage cheese, but there's only one brand I like because everyone else's is too soggy and I can only get it from one supermarket.

How go other people's efforts in these general directions?
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  • I'm generally managing to swim 1000m three times a week - it's a bit of a struggle at times!
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    I'm generally managing to swim 1000m three times a week - it's a bit of a struggle at times!

    You're doing better than me - I'd struggle to do 100m three times a week ;)
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    Had to cut down my running, due to bits wearing out. Now 6km, 3 or 4 times a week, gym stuff on three other days usually.

    I am trying hard because of dementia on both sides of the family - fitness may help to hold it off according to some studies. Not to mention the sarcopenia that left my mother very frail far too young, before she died.

    Time in the gym has been transformed by joining the earpods generation - not just music, but podcasts, audio-books… I think findings ways to enjoy it (or make it less unpleasant) may be the key for me. I really want to try Zumba or dance-based stuff like that, but I think it might be too embarassing for an older geezer 😳
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited July 2024
    I can't do gyms - loud terrible music. You can use earphones but they have it so loud you can't really hear your own unless you turn it up to painful levels.

    But even if it were done in total silence wild horses couldn't drag me to a Zumba session.
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I can't do gyms - loud terrible music. You can use earphones but they have it so loud you can't really hear your own unless you turn it up to painful levels.

    But even if it were done in total silence wild horses couldn't drag me to a Zumba session.

    Ah, that’s the thing about fancy earpods - noise cancelling. You can only hear your own stuff 😀

    I wasn’t recommending things like Zumba - haven’t been myself (yet?), and I am sure those kinds of things are not for everyone. Team-based competitive sports would be my version of hell - too many memories of compulsory rugby at school, which was not a fun pastime for this gay wimp.

  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    They don't cancel enough noise for me.

    I tried cricket a few years ago. Unfortunately although everyone in the club was very nice about it and encouraging (so not like school PE) I just sucked so badly I ended up not even being interested in the test series any more. That was a mistake. I think you've got to be good enough to hold your own for sports. I got lots of exercise at school playing tennis - rescuing the ball from the back of the court and collecting my serves from wherever they went when I tried to serve.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Congrats on Couchto5K - I did it a few years ago and discovered like you - that even when I can do it, it’s not my favourite form of exercise. (Which would be kettlebells and steel mace.)
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    I had not heard of steel mace exercise before, so I scurried off to google it… looks rather like gladiator training, and I can imagine it is fun!

    Don’t think there are maces at my gym, otherwise I might have a go at the barbarian squat, just because it sounds so evocative.
  • Cameron wrote: »
    I had not heard of steel mace exercise before, so I scurried off to google it… looks rather like gladiator training, and I can imagine it is fun!

    Don’t think there are maces at my gym, otherwise I might have a go at the barbarian squat, just because it sounds so evocative.

    Barbarians and gladiators? Sign me up! ;)
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Congrats on Couchto5K - I did it a few years ago and discovered like you - that even when I can do it, it’s not my favourite form of exercise. (Which would be kettlebells and steel mace.)

    "Not my favourite form of exercise" is a very diplomatic way of putting it.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    I get my exercise running for buses. At least it amuses the other people at the bus stop. Then I collapse into a soggy heap on the bus.

    More seriously I was thinking about taking my pushbike in to be serviced. The gears don't function properly because it fell over and something broke.

    I really enjoyed cycling but have become lazy, especially since the change in timetables meant buses come along every 10 minutes on week days and every 15 on the weekend.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    When I retired I brought myself a Fitbit. Three of the things later the latest one died on holiday when I went swimming with it. It was supposed to be waterproof. I decided that I now know what I need to do to keep fit, and have freed myself from its tyranny.
    I try and walk a fair amount every day, and do Pilates and play badminton and table tennis pretty regularly.
    I love Zumba, and one of my favourite pictures from the Election was Ed Davey joining in a class. However there are no classes round here at a time I can get to so that is off the agenda at the moment.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Got my exercise in this morning when the e-bike battery ran out at the bottom of the 200' 1:8 hill between town and us.

  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Three years ago, I was told I had a fatty liver. Usually this is due to alcohol use, but some get it through poor diet (guilty). The doctor had long suggested I have stomach surgery, but I did not like the idea of a bypass or using bands.

    Two years ago, I was told I had cirrhosis of the liver. I immediately changed my diet, and I started taking Mounjaro which is actually a once-a-week injection. Over the past two years I have lost over 40 pounds.

    Mounjaro works by getting your liver to produce less sugar, and it reduces the digestive process. Almost like a chemical surgery when you think about it.

    Since taking it, my blood pressure is within normal range, and I am not in the prediabetic range any more. I think next time I am with the doctor we will discuss changing some of my prescriptions.

    Yesterday, I had an upper GI to look for varicose veins in the esophagus. They usually develop because of cirrhosis, None were found. But I will likely have to have this exam on an annual basis.

    Too bad it took me this long to do something about obesity, but I am glad I did it.

    Another advantage to losing the weight is my back no longer hurts. That issue is another story.
  • Huia wrote: »
    I get my exercise running for buses. At least it amuses the other people at the bus stop. Then I collapse into a soggy heap on the bus.
    I have, at least twice, tripped on the step and fallen flat on my face by the driver.

    They have, of course, seen it all before.

    Today i have travelled on five buses!

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    I have been playing pickleball 4 hours a week this summer and getting out with Ms. C 2-3 times a week for a 40 minute walk.
  • Assuming tomorrow goes to plan I will have commuted by bike and bus 3 1/2 times this week for a total of 45 miles. The 1/2 is because I met the Knotweed at the allotment & got a lift home in Le Van Rouge.

    First time I'll have managed that since September.
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    edited July 2024
    Caissa wrote: »
    I have been playing pickleball 4 hours a week this summer and getting out with Ms. C 2-3 times a week for a 40 minute walk.

    There are songs about pickleball by the Holderness Family!

    https://youtu.be/95_HeEELzYU?si=_c8irg0qbvEct8vn

    https://youtube.com/shorts/iHDq53ZqBzk?si=6oW8XktwM4CSb0j7
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Excellent, Chastmastr. I have shared with my pickleball peeps.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    We walk most days. In the morning, the walk is one way to a small suburban shopping centre, where we have coffee, pick up any small things we want, then walk home. The afternoon sees us walking in the opposite direction, where there are larger stores but more importantly, an excellent coffee shop. Today being Saturday, we'll catch a train a few stations closer to the city, where there's another very good coffee shop. From there, we'll walk to the next station south where there's a well-known greengrocery. Train home.

    Yes, we do get to coffee shops, but we normally only have coffee, with nothing to eat. There's the aerobic exercise of walking, much more within our ability than formal exercising at a gym - and the other issues KarlLB mentions. It's probably safer than cycling around here. We usually see friends at the different coffee shops we visit, and that's another positive aspect to it (and no-one has the bother of buying something to eat and then doing the cleaning up).
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    I wish we had suburban rail here. There's a good bus service, every 10 minutes, during the week and 15 at weekends, but I like trains.

    Christchurch also has a network of cycleways, and since I rode my bike regularly every bus has been equipped to take 2 or 3 cycles, so there's a back up if I ran out of puff.

    The more I think about it, the more attractive it becomes,
  • Caissa wrote: »
    Excellent, Chastmastr. I have shared with my pickleball peeps.

    Yay! 😀
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    edited July 2024
    I find the gym phenomenally boring, but do it anyway because strength training seems to be key to ward off losing muscle and bone mass, I also have found that keeping up core strength is good for avoiding back twinges etc. I've found somewhere quiet, go there during the non-peak times, and have a routine for getting in and out as fast as possible.

    If I'm working from home I try and go for a long walk at lunch time. Other than that it's instructor led stuff, judo atm, mainly because it involves other people and as long as I turn up for the class I'm going to get a decent workout whether in the mood for it or not.

    Have always preferred walking holidays but small children tend to make that more difficult.
  • I have had a busy week workwise so didn't go swimming on Thursday (tut, tut) but did manage this morning.
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    Currently vacillating between going for a run and getting on with tidying and packing. Resolving the dilemma by drinking tea and tootling about here. Even packing would be more active!
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    I have clearly offended the Road Cycling gods. I got a puncture and my pump died in the service on the same day that I replaced the cassette with one that grants my aging and aching knees the sort of gear ratios normally found only on mountain bikes (50-34 compact paired with 11-36 cassette, for the bike nerds here) which is not the One True Way of Suffering and Standing on the Pedals.
  • Now doing level three Papworth cardio rehab program. It's hard work and I ache.
    No pain, no gain ....
    But how long, oh Lord, how long ...
  • I've had some neck pain this week. Swam on Thursday but the pain came back with a vengeance later on. Went to swim this morning but lifting my head to breathe hurt, so I decided to be sensible and, after a few lengths on my back, I came home.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Any kind of physical exertion beyond pedalling the electric bike around has been completely out of the question today owing to oppressive heat.

    Summer doesn't agree with my attempts to exercise.
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    @Baptist Trainfan that sounds worrisome! Hope it is just a transient twinge. Better safe than sorry though.

    @KarlLB up in Scotland I am safe from oppressive heat, which means my only excuse for not exercising today* was an attack of CBA**. Early tomorrow morning looks like it is going to be perfect running weather here though (10C, sunny, light winds), so I would be a fool to miss that. Hope some cool air heads your way too.

    *Unless walking to the coffee shop for an americano and a cream bun counts as exercise. No? Thought not.

    **Couldn’t Be Arsed.
  • Cameron wrote: »
    @Baptist Trainfan that sounds worrisome! Hope it is just a transient twinge. Better safe than sorry though.
    Thanks. I'll see how I am tomorrow.

  • @Baptist Trainfan, I do most of my exercise in the pool, usually aquarobics or just walking if the pool is a suitable depth and temperature. Recently in a different city I saw someone swimming laps with a snorkel that was centred, going up over their nose and then round to the top of their head, if that makes sense. They appeared not to be moving their head very much. Would that help?
  • I don't really want to try it, but thanks for the suggestion.

    My neck is feeling much better so I'll probably give it a go tomorrow.
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    There is an athletic woman in the gym today, shifting impressive weights.

    I do not know whether I am more envious of her fitness, or the glitter-encrusted lifting belt she is rocking :smile:
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Yesterday, I looked at some suits I had deep in the closet. Some I thought I would never wear again. Turns out I have lost enough weight to wear all but one sport coat. Problem is the suits are over 15 years old.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Problem is the suits are over 15 years old.

    And? I sometimes wear items I've had 20+ years. That's the great thing about being old - you don't have to give a damn.

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Played my best pickleball of the season last night in muggy weather. My body is feeling it this morning. I have to remind myself that one of my partners last night is 83 when I ache the next day. We beat two young whippersnappers (in their thirties).
  • CameronCameron Shipmate
    Firenze wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Problem is the suits are over 15 years old.

    And? I sometimes wear items I've had 20+ years. That's the great thing about being old - you don't have to give a damn.

    Errrr…

    I still have a t-shirt I bought decades ago.

    It is plain black.

    Apart from the designer logo on the back, 12 inches wide, in black sequins.

    😳

    (Not clubbing anymore at my age 🤣)
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    edited July 2024
    Huia wrote: »
    I wish we had suburban rail here. There's a good bus service, every 10 minutes, during the week and 15 at weekends, but I like trains.

    Christchurch also has a network of cycleways, and since I rode my bike regularly every bus has been equipped to take 2 or 3 cycles, so there's a back up if I ran out of puff.

    The more I think about it, the more attractive it becomes,

    We have a quarter-hourly service on our train line in suburban Sydney. Those who live closer to the city get 8 and sometimes more trains an hour. I used the train to travel as much as possible when I was working. There were occasions when using a train was impossible, other times when a train journey would have been potentially dangerous. You're right about liking trains. We still travel by train quite a bit, and indeed would have taken a train tomorrow morning has services not been suspended for regular trackwork.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited July 2024
    Our part of Cardiff never had a line from the Valleys' coal mines, so no trains. Other parts of the city are well served (some lines re-opened post-Beeching).
  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    edited October 2024
    I'm trying to get back into bushwalking/tramping/hiking/rambling/whatever it is called where you are. Finding hills a bit difficult...need to work on my aerobic fitness.

    Back to long ago posts...I as a 30 something male did Zumba and BodyJam aerobic classes... I get bored very easily and need it to be entertaining. I am very uncoordinated so I amused myself if no-one else!
  • I'm an amateur road cyclist who bought a gravel bike (think: curved handlebar road bike with slightly knobby tires) over a year ago, but is yet to actually ride any gravel routes. I've ridden it on tarmac when the road bike has been in the shop, or otherwise down for repairs, but I hope I'll be able to do some proper gravel-ly riding (everything from very poorly paved roads to actual gravel and dirt roads) this winter. There's an annual four-race/ride series here in my current State called the MS Gravel Cup, and I'm going to try to participate in a few of those. So far this calendar year I'm up to 4420k, which is at least 1000k off from the past several years. I now have a goal of 5632k (3500mi) by Dec.31. We'll see if I can make that. Because we're still a partially backward nation, we'll be turning out clocks back one hour this weekend, which means riding in daylight will be even more difficult. I do have an indoor trainer, but I have been loathe to set it up. I've actually had it for almost three years, but have never plugged it in and used it. Longer story, but I really, really prefer the outdoors, even in inclement weather. That's the riding side. I also need to find some kind of cross-training. May have to explore my wife's TRX system and do some body weight training. My upper body is weak. Beyond the cycling, I do walk/hike fairly often with Mrs. The_Riv on your local multi-use trail, just half mile from our front door. We get out on a couple of those each week, normally for around 5k, and she does a bit more when I'm riding. We're in our mid 50's and grateful for our mobility, though the aches and pains are creeping in. I'd love to top-out my fitness at least once more. It's been since before our kids were born that I could claim that, some 25 years ago. *sigh*

    @KarlLB I'm squarely in the anti-snob fraternity of cycling. Arrange for a 1:1 gear ration if you can! You're in the foothills of the Pennines, right?! E-bike? Yes! If you ride a bike, you are a cyclist, full stop, and a fellow traveler of mine.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    A sunny spring day here so I walked the scenic route to the shops. I loved it, but a cycleway has been added and I didn't appreciate the drongo who whipped past me without sounding a bell, or warning me in anyway, despite the instructions to do so.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Cyclists and walkers using the same space is always challenging, @Huia. Some of the streets through the village have no pavements and so I have to jump onto lawns or planted verges if cyclists or car drivers come by, especially if they are swerving to avoid large potholes. I like getting out for fresh air, but doing chair yoga and asana postures in my small flat feels safer much of the time. When friends join me at the weekend, we can walk through vineyards and and in open veld which is much more pleasant.
  • Mrs RR (not long out of hospital) and I managed our cardio physio level 3 video today. This is progress.
    She is encouraging me to join hher in 'Couch to 5K' next!
  • RockyRoger wrote: »
    Mrs RR (not long out of hospital) and I managed our cardio physio level 3 video today. This is progress.
    She is encouraging me to join hher in 'Couch to 5K' next!

    I did that. It taught me two important things.

    No, three important things.

    1. I can, in fact, run for thirty minutes at a time.
    2. I absolutely loathe, hate, detest and abhor running.
    3. Getting back into cycling the 15 miles to work and back each way isn't anything like as bad as running as a means of improving fitness.
  • Ha ha.

    I'm trying to get out once a week for a bushwalk (hike). I used to love it but during years of poor mental health I let it slip. I am quite unfit now and hills are my enemies. But, slowly.
  • Having missed swimming on Tuesday due to a cold, I went today and, surprisingly, did very well.
  • Playing weekly pickleball is improving my health and leading to improvements in my skills. I converted to it about 3 years ago after almost 50 years of playing tennis.
  • Trying to lose weight using Slimming World online - wild horses couldn't drag me to a real life meeting.

    I wish they didn't seem to hate bakery products as much as I like them. Their idea of a portion is smaller than one slice of the bread I make.

    I mean it's working but a world where a cheese salad baguette, sausage roll or Cornish pasty is effectively out of bounds is not one I can inhabit long term.
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