I noticed that after the service at our place this morning I sought out a couple of members of our Lent pop-up group to speak to, and it did make me feel more connected with things and people than I have for a while.
That is lovely. Very happy for you.
Great hearing what others are up to, and whatever the numbers, people are getting something from it.
They were amazing. Made by a couple where the woman is from Indonesia.
We call them "spring rolls" here.
Where I live, “eggs rolls” are wrapped in a thick wheat-and-egg wrap and typically contain meat as well as vegetables, while “spring rolls” are wrapped in rice paper or a very thin wheat wrap and don’t contain meat.
I have not heard the term "egg roll" here at all. Spring rolls can be both. Thanks for the information from over there. Wheat-based is used afaik, guessing usually with egg [as GG pointed out we're in Lent so if we can abstain from eggs we do]. "Rice paper rolls"* are what they say; cold, vegetables or meat/fish/prawn (shrimp), combinations often, wrapped in rice paper.
* not sure if that is Australian or a translation; given we have the Snowy Mountains, the Blue Mountains [from the haze of eucalypts], the Sydney Harbour Bridge, we don't go for complicated naming...
Thank you. Always wanted to head to the far east in Canada [been to Vancouver, a fair bit [long drives north-south] of Alberta, some of Ontario -- incl. Niagara Falls: wow! -- and Quebec]. Seems like a truly fascinating, nature and history, place.
I was talking to someone of struggles in Lent. Not sure if this is helpful to anyone, but from my Saint:
Do not be surprised that you fall every day; do not give up, but stand your ground courageously. And assuredly the angel who guards you will honour your patience...The demons say that God is merciful before our fall, but that He is inexorable after the fall.
At rehearsal last night our DoM apologised that we will be breaking Lent ‘rules’ next Saturday when we sing Howells’ Hymnus Paradisi as it contains the word Allelujah at the end of the section from the Salisbury Diurnal ( Holy is the true light).
Ha! ( See what I did there).
67 times, I think someone might notice, especially one particular climactic moment when Sopranos soar up to top B.
Well, fair point. I'm afraid I didn't read your post properly, and assumed you were referring to a rehearsal ...
I wondered about that too, BF.
A choir I used to sing in used to sing the Hallelujah Chorus as the Gospel Acclamation on Easter Sunday; we had a soprano who was so far up the candle she utterly refused to rehearse it because Lent, and would sit on her hands, looking grumpy, when we had a quick run through it at the last rehearsal before Easter.
Instead of the A-word, you could sing *Eggs and Bacon*...
I am amused. Never heard this replacement! I'm imagining the Eggs-and-Bacon chorus a la Handel! I do recall some no-doubt well-worn replacements choir members have told me (Most highly flavoured gravy, for instance).
(I love music but can't hit or hold a note. Honestly. I went to singing lessons to help chant at church on the advice of the head chanter; I was straight reading occassionally if they needed help. Week 2 I realised I was useless. Said to the teacher, "I'm struggling. This will be my last." No, "Oh, you're doing okay..." Her reply: "I understand." 🤣)
Ha! ( See what I did there).
67 times, I think someone might notice, especially one particular climactic moment when Sopranos soar up to top B.
Well, fair point. I'm afraid I didn't read your post properly, and assumed you were referring to a rehearsal ...
I wondered about that too, BF.
A choir I used to sing in used to sing the Hallelujah Chorus as the Gospel Acclamation on Easter Sunday; we had a soprano who was so far up the candle she utterly refused to rehearse it because Lent, and would sit on her hands, looking grumpy, when we had a quick run through it at the last rehearsal before Easter.
If it was because she was that far up the candle I can only imagine said candle was a good way up her...
If it was because she was that far up the candle I can only imagine said candle was a good way up her...
We don’t have the :notworthy: emoji anymore, but at least the Ship’s Quotes File is still available.
Indeed.
Lent progresses well at Our Place, with a good attendance last Sunday. Next Sunday is *Mothering Sunday*, which used to be well-attended by our local Cubs/Beavers, but Covid (amongst other things) put paid to that.
I'm told that the Friday evening Stations of the Cross sees about half-a-dozen people, which is encouraging, considering that a number of those who used to attend in past years are now too infirm, or else dead.
Yesterday was my Saint's Sunday of Great Lent and, on the New Calendar, his Feast Day. I couldn't get to the service held at the mission unfortunately, but I was able to use some online Service texts and read more of his book, The Ladder of Divine Ascent, and some other books too.
Two verses I found moving:
You have rendered yourself God’s true abode, O Father, by your divine virtue, adorning it lucidly, as with gold that glitters from afar. You set forth faith, hope and true charity as divine axioms. As with angelic self-control, you practiced prudence, courage, and temperance. You acquired humility, by which you were exalted. Hence, you were enlightened by prayer unfailing, and you attained the mansions of heaven, as our professor and mentor, O Father John.
John, who was dead in the flesh while living,
Ever lives, while appearing to be dead and not breathing.
He left us his book, the Ladder for ascending,
And shows us the way of his ascent to heaven.
Yesterday was my Saint's Sunday of Great Lent and, on the New Calendar, his Feast Day. I couldn't get to the service held at the mission unfortunately, but I was able to use some online Service texts and read more of his book, The Ladder of Divine Ascent, and some other books too.
Two verses I found moving:
You have rendered yourself God’s true abode, O Father, by your divine virtue, adorning it lucidly, as with gold that glitters from afar. You set forth faith, hope and true charity as divine axioms. As with angelic self-control, you practiced prudence, courage, and temperance. You acquired humility, by which you were exalted. Hence, you were enlightened by prayer unfailing, and you attained the mansions of heaven, as our professor and mentor, O Father John.
John, who was dead in the flesh while living,
Ever lives, while appearing to be dead and not breathing.
He left us his book, the Ladder for ascending,
And shows us the way of his ascent to heaven.
Holy Week is nearly upon us, and FatherInCharge has issued his usual three-line-whip for the Faithful to attend at least two services - there is a daily 7pm Mass on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, with an 8pm Mass on Maundy Thursday, a 12 noon Liturgy on Good Friday (with Stations at 730pm), the Vigil & First Mass on Saturday at 8pm, and the usual Parish Mass on Easter Sunday morning.
FInC appreciates that people's work and family commitments sometimes make it difficult to attend the three principal services (Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, and Easter Sunday), hence the additional opportunities for worship. This makes it all the more odd (or so it seems to me) that he is calling for people to attend an Open Meeting after the Wednesday evening Mass, purely to discuss the Important Secular Matters of fitting a suspended ceiling in the Hall, and the problems of unauthorised parking on our off-road spaces! What? In the middle of Holy Week ? I rather hope that no-one turns up to the Open Meeting, but that attendances are up on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday...
Talk about getting one's priorities wrong...the Annual Parochial Church Meeting is on the Sunday after Easter...surely these things could wait until then?
I quite regularly jump mentally from the 4th Sunday of Lent (Mothering Sunday in my context) to Palm Sunday regardless of when Easter is. Made slightly worse this this year by the fact I sorted and printed the liturgies for both the same evening.
Quite why is beyond me as I enjoy Lenten hymns and music, (I started organ lessons in Lent and had all my early teaching on Lent/Passiontide music) definitely look forwards to the switch of emphasis to Passiontide.
But, yes, I've been having a lot of trouble holding on to when Easter is...
Today (Friday) is, by Orthodox reckoning, the last of the 40 days of Lent. Tomorrow (Saturday - the Rasing of Lazarus - a minor feast with a lot of liturgical peculiarities) and Palm Sunday (Great Feast) allow a little mitigation of the fasting rules. Then we are into the much older fast of Holy Week.
In our parish we do not have the resources for a "full" celebration of Holy Week, but we manage at least one service each day.
Easter is always on the 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th or 17th Sunday of the year. In 2025, we have Easter on the 16th Sunday, almost as late as possible.
On 2074, Easter will be on April 15, which means Good Friday will also be Friday the 13th. I have contemplated a plot for a scary movie for that date.
We were encouraged to learn some Spanish during Lent. I am surprised to now know as much as I do. My hearing is terrible, and unless someone speaks slowly, I can not follow, but that is true with English as well. I am much better at reading and writing, I am afraid. I have also been reading The Women's Bible and find it interesting. On another note, I have made beet-pickled eggs for next week. I only eat them at Easter.
May I ask if there was a reason for Spanish? I shall look up the Women's Bible...glad you found it interesting.
I did Ukrainian, out of general interest... Struggling a bit and considering going back to Icelandic.
I had grand plans for this Lent of reading, prayer, services... The whole thing collapsed pretty much. I have managed a few things here and there. I came across this quote from Fr Tom Hopko in his The Lenten Spring book [which was one of the ones I did not get far into...]
Whatever [has happened] during the forty days of Great Lent, whether we think, according to our limited understanding, that we have done well, or whether we learn once more the bitter but most blessed lesson of our incapacity to accomplish even the smallest of our good intentions, the result—if we are yet the least bit alive—will be the same every year: we go up to Jerusalem with Jesus, like his very first disciples, amazed and afraid!
Last year at church they taught us how to fold those!
I learnt how to fold them when we were in Canada; there was a big group of us who gathered the day before under the watchful eye of the lady who ran the Altar Guild. There was always a competition to see who could make the smallest cross out of the scraps ...
I noticed that my local parish church is anticipating Easter slightly - they've put a big banner up outside saying *Alleluia! Christ is Risen!*, with most of Holy Week still to go...
Still, full marks to them for getting the message over to the passers-by (not that there are that many, on foot at least, but there is a Bus Stop close to the banner!).
May I ask if there was a reason for Spanish? I shall look up the Women's Bible...glad you found it interesting.
I did Ukrainian, out of general interest... Struggling a bit and considering going back to Icelandic.
I had grand plans for this Lent of reading, prayer, services... The whole thing collapsed pretty much. I have managed a few things here and there. I came across this quote from Fr Tom Hopko in his The Lenten Spring book [which was one of the ones I did not get far into...]
Whatever [has happened] during the forty days of Great Lent, whether we think, according to our limited understanding, that we have done well, or whether we learn once more the bitter but most blessed lesson of our incapacity to accomplish even the smallest of our good intentions, the result—if we are yet the least bit alive—will be the same every year: we go up to Jerusalem with Jesus, like his very first disciples, amazed and afraid!
May I ask if there was a reason for Spanish? I shall look up the Women's Bible...glad you found it interesting.
We have a Spanish/English worship service in addition to the three other English ones, so we have a number of Spanish-speaking members Also, in this time of turmoil for many immigrants in our community, it might be helpful if offering assistance.
AIUI Spanish is quite widely spoken in parts of the US - many Mystery Worship Reports confirm that services in Spanish are by no means uncommon.
I do have a little Spanish, and occasionally employed it (rather mischievously) whilst working for the Ambulance service. When collecting or delivering patients from or to one or more of the geriatric wards at our local hospital, which employed a fair number of Spanish or Filipina nursing staff, it was fun to show off by announcing our arrival on the scene thus:
¡Buen día! ¡Hola! Somos los ambulancieros. ¿Dónde está la señora Smith?
We spoke English to the patient(s), of course, as did the staff...
Our Place used to have a rather more varied congregation than at present, and at one time I was able (with the aid of a printed list!) to say *Good morning, and welcome!* in no less than fifteen different languages...
Alas! the Poles (and several other Europeans) have left, because Brexit.
It is indeed! Thank you for the explanation and all the best. And thank you for sharing your experiences, Bishops Finger. I did it in years 4 to 6 at school [8 - 11]; my one abiding memory was mispronouncing box as caca which had the teacher and native speakers from Spain/South America in hysterics!
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Love killed me
and love dragged me
and love laid me on the bier
...
for I have looked for you
both day and night,
...
I have done well,
for I have won you in battle.
A song I heard that always come to mind in Holy Week. I find the words beautiful, and the rendition by the Mediæval Bæbes [where I first heard it] enjoyable.
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Great hearing what others are up to, and whatever the numbers, people are getting something from it.
We call them "spring rolls" here.
* not sure if that is Australian or a translation; given we have the Snowy Mountains, the Blue Mountains [from the haze of eucalypts], the Sydney Harbour Bridge, we don't go for complicated naming...
67 times, I think someone might notice, especially one particular climactic moment when Sopranos soar up to top B.
Well, fair point. I'm afraid I didn't read your post properly, and assumed you were referring to a rehearsal.
It would be a bit obvious...though not quite as bad as Handel's *Eggs and Bacon* Chorus.
Lent talks on BBC Radio 4:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0028tnv
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00290g8
Wow!
A choir I used to sing in used to sing the Hallelujah Chorus as the Gospel Acclamation on Easter Sunday; we had a soprano who was so far up the candle she utterly refused to rehearse it because Lent, and would sit on her hands, looking grumpy, when we had a quick run through it at the last rehearsal before Easter.
I am amused. Never heard this replacement! I'm imagining the Eggs-and-Bacon chorus a la Handel! I do recall some no-doubt well-worn replacements choir members have told me (Most highly flavoured gravy, for instance).
(I love music but can't hit or hold a note. Honestly. I went to singing lessons to help chant at church on the advice of the head chanter; I was straight reading occassionally if they needed help. Week 2 I realised I was useless. Said to the teacher, "I'm struggling. This will be my last." No, "Oh, you're doing okay..." Her reply: "I understand." 🤣)
If it was because she was that far up the candle I can only imagine said candle was a good way up her...
We don’t have the :notworthy: emoji anymore, but at least the Ship’s Quotes File is still available.
Indeed.
Lent progresses well at Our Place, with a good attendance last Sunday. Next Sunday is *Mothering Sunday*, which used to be well-attended by our local Cubs/Beavers, but Covid (amongst other things) put paid to that.
I'm told that the Friday evening Stations of the Cross sees about half-a-dozen people, which is encouraging, considering that a number of those who used to attend in past years are now too infirm, or else dead.
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Today, Wednesday, is the midpoint of Great Lent/Holy Week and the Cross features prominently in the hymns.
Two verses I found moving:
Thank you!!
Blessings ....
FInC appreciates that people's work and family commitments sometimes make it difficult to attend the three principal services (Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, and Easter Sunday), hence the additional opportunities for worship. This makes it all the more odd (or so it seems to me) that he is calling for people to attend an Open Meeting after the Wednesday evening Mass, purely to discuss the Important Secular Matters of fitting a suspended ceiling in the Hall, and the problems of unauthorised parking on our off-road spaces! What? In the middle of Holy Week ? I rather hope that no-one turns up to the Open Meeting, but that attendances are up on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday...
Talk about getting one's priorities wrong...the Annual Parochial Church Meeting is on the Sunday after Easter...surely these things could wait until then?
Or is it just me?
Quite why is beyond me as I enjoy Lenten hymns and music, (I started organ lessons in Lent and had all my early teaching on Lent/Passiontide music) definitely look forwards to the switch of emphasis to Passiontide.
But, yes, I've been having a lot of trouble holding on to when Easter is...
No, not just you.
In our parish we do not have the resources for a "full" celebration of Holy Week, but we manage at least one service each day.
On 2074, Easter will be on April 15, which means Good Friday will also be Friday the 13th. I have contemplated a plot for a scary movie for that date.
I'll be happy enough if I make it to next year...
Scary ...
I did Ukrainian, out of general interest... Struggling a bit and considering going back to Icelandic.
I had grand plans for this Lent of reading, prayer, services... The whole thing collapsed pretty much. I have managed a few things here and there. I came across this quote from Fr Tom Hopko in his The Lenten Spring book [which was one of the ones I did not get far into...]
I learnt how to fold them when we were in Canada; there was a big group of us who gathered the day before under the watchful eye of the lady who ran the Altar Guild. There was always a competition to see who could make the smallest cross out of the scraps ...
Still, full marks to them for getting the message over to the passers-by (not that there are that many, on foot at least, but there is a Bus Stop close to the banner!).
We have a Spanish/English worship service in addition to the three other English ones, so we have a number of Spanish-speaking members Also, in this time of turmoil for many immigrants in our community, it might be helpful if offering assistance.
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I do have a little Spanish, and occasionally employed it (rather mischievously) whilst working for the Ambulance service. When collecting or delivering patients from or to one or more of the geriatric wards at our local hospital, which employed a fair number of Spanish or Filipina nursing staff, it was fun to show off by announcing our arrival on the scene thus:
¡Buen día! ¡Hola! Somos los ambulancieros. ¿Dónde está la señora Smith?
We spoke English to the patient(s), of course, as did the staff...
Our Place used to have a rather more varied congregation than at present, and at one time I was able (with the aid of a printed list!) to say *Good morning, and welcome!* in no less than fifteen different languages...
Alas! the Poles (and several other Europeans) have left, because Brexit.
Well, it's a start...
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A song I heard that always come to mind in Holy Week. I find the words beautiful, and the rendition by the Mediæval Bæbes [where I first heard it] enjoyable.