The secret Christians aren’t sharing with you

godincarnatemegodincarnateme Shipmate
edited November 17 in Purgatory
Concerning Christ, I'm certain that many followers secretly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence will end and begin again with his "rebirth." Notice Jesus in quotes. The Christian conviction that He is alive in "heaven" now, poised to resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks volumes, in my estimation. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic tendency is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons "unknown," Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity’s magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals shy away from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure described in the sacred text provided by God.

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  • I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. You think there are two individuals who are both Christ? Or that Jesus Christ is somehow re-running his earthly life right now? I'm confused.
  • I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. You think there are two individuals who are both Christ? Or that Jesus Christ is somehow re-running his earthly life right now? I'm confused.

    Haha. No. Christians secretly think that “Jesus” is on earth right now. Notice Jesus in quotes. They don’t know who this man is. The only thing they do know is that when he dies all existence ends and begins again, repeating the same cycle. As far as the Jesus in the Bible goes, no they don’t subscribe to that.
  • I'm confused.
    I suspect you’re not the one who’s confused.


  • When you say 'many', what percentage of Christians do you think hold this belief?
  • godincarnatemegodincarnateme Shipmate
    edited November 17
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    When you say 'many', what percentage of Christians do you think hold this belief?

    I’d say around 50-60%. Not many young ones do. It takes time to understand the mystery of life.
  • Christianity was meant to introduce people to the truth, but sadly many leave before they get to understand the real truth.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited November 17
    @godincarnateme please read & follow the forum guidance here with special attention to commandment 8. Using your op to advertise your website violates our forum rules, so I have broken the link.

    Doublethink, Admin
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    edited November 18
    @godincarnateme said
    Concerning Christ, I'm certain that many followers secretly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence will end and begin again with his "rebirth."

    This Christian doesn’t think anything of the sort.

    Since you’ve explicitly said in another thread you started today that you think this person is you… sorry, but no.

    Have a nice day.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    In all my 61 years I’ve encountered many Christians from many different traditions, but I’ve never met anyone with this weird belief
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    I think we are being trolled.
  • If we're being trolled by god incarnate, it would be Outrage of Cosmic Proportions!
    :lol:
  • peasepease Tech Admin
    Within the framing of how we got here and where we're going, a synthesis of resurrection and reincarnation; Christianity and endless recurrence.

    Jesus continuing to walk the earth isn't an unfamiliar concept:
    I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.
  • Spike wrote: »
    In all my 61 years I’ve encountered many Christians from many different traditions, but I’ve never met anyone with this weird belief

    And you won’t. That’s why it’s called a secret.
  • Oh FFS. Are we supposed to take this Stuff seriously ?
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Having briefly checked the website before it was de-linked, I have concluded that @Alan29 is on the money.

  • Enoch wrote: »
    Having briefly checked the website before it was de-linked, I have concluded that @Alan29 is on the money.

    Yes. DNFTT.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    It's been a while since we had such trollery here. Makes a nice diversion.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    It's been a while since we had such trollery here. Makes a nice diversion.

    Well, yes - but there are better things to be doing, like hanging out the washing, or drinking beer, or making toast, or...
    :lol:
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    …watching paint dry.

    It’s a while since Bedlam was regarded as a source of entertainment.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited November 18
    Just so. I'm off to eat some Sausages. I may boil up some Gravy to go with them, as it's a bit chilly this evening.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    edited November 18
    @godincarnateme I poked around on your website a little bit. I like your artwork. Have you considered selling any of it?

    I am curious about why you think Christians secretly know that you are God incarnate. Do you think that this is a sort of innate knowledge, or from you talking about it? What about other theistic religious people?

    I'm not making fun of you. I am genuinely curious as to how your own theology works.
  • I'd like to know how the "secretly know" thing works when taken in conjunction with your repeated concern that, if anyone found out who you were, they'd "whack" you. Do you think, then, that no Christian who has this secret knowledge would ever whack you?
  • Merry Vole wrote: »
    When you say 'many', what percentage of Christians do you think hold this belief?

    I’d say around 50-60%. Not many young ones do. It takes time to understand the mystery of life.

    So... you're saying that at least half of all Christians believe this.

    I don't think so.
  • Don't feed the troll.
  • Don't feed the troll.

    Love you
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited November 19
    Don't feed the troll.

    I mean, the guy shows up here claiming to be God, so I don't think too many of us have any illusions as to how seriously his ideas should be taken.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    @godincarnateme I poked around on your website a little bit. I like your artwork. Have you considered selling any of it?

    I am curious about why you think Christians secretly know that you are God incarnate. Do you think that this is a sort of innate knowledge, or from you talking about it? What about other theistic religious people?

    I'm not making fun of you. I am genuinely curious as to how your own theology works.

    I have sold art.

    I never said Christians secretly know that I am God incarnate. I’ve said that Christian secretly know that God incarnate is on earth. It’s innate knowledge. As I’ve said on my website, many people from many different religions know that God incarnate walks the Earth., as well as the non-religious.
  • I'd like to know how the "secretly know" thing works when taken in conjunction with your repeated concern that, if anyone found out who you were, they'd "whack" you. Do you think, then, that no Christian who has this secret knowledge would ever whack you?

    They don’t know who they just know it’s someone. And like I said, no one would ever believe it’s me. So I’m covered.
  • agingjbagingjb Shipmate
    I miss Martin.
  • agingjb wrote: »
    I miss Martin.

    Ah yes, at least he was rational.
    But wasn't it CS Lewis who of a deluded person observd , 'they say he has lost his reason, when actually what he has lost is a sense of reality'. GIN has protected himself (herself) from any disproof with his own logic.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    I think professional help is available for those who suffer from delusions.
  • A Feminine ForceA Feminine Force Shipmate
    edited November 19
    If you are, I am and so are we all. The Body of Christ as it were.

    Just because you are more self aware as such doesn't mean you're the only one. There's a Chinese woman in New York City who has published thousands of lectures and is known to her followers as the incarnation of God Almighty and Jesus in the flesh.

    Maybe you should go have a chat with her. Might be like talking to yourself. Only with a bigger fan base.

    AFF
  • If you are, I am and so are we all. The Body of Christ as it were.

    Just because you are more self aware as such doesn't mean you're the only one. There's a Chinese woman in New York City who has published thousands of lectures and is known to her followers as the incarnation of God Almighty and Jesus in the flesh.

    Maybe you should go have a chat with her. Might be like talking to yourself. Only with a bigger fan base.

    AFF

    I feel bad for her. Hopefully she comes to understand her true nature one day.
  • We might offer up the same prayer for you.
    :wink:
  • We might offer up the same prayer for you.
    :wink:

    I knew you all would 3 yers ago before I shared it on the internet. But maybe I got a few of you to start thinking a little differently.
  • We might offer up the same prayer for you.
    :wink:

    I knew you all would 3 yers ago before I shared it on the internet. But maybe I got a few of you to start thinking a little differently.

    Why? I don't know any Christians on any church or denomination who believes that Christ is walking the earth as an individual today.

    It's arrant nonsense to suggest that a large proportion of Christians believe that and that the only reason the rest of us don't is because they are keeping it a secret.

    I'm actually a toadstool but the rest of the Ship don't know that because I've kept it secret until now.

    Move along, there's nothing to see here.
  • We might offer up the same prayer for you.
    :wink:

    I knew you all would 3 yers ago before I shared it on the internet. But maybe I got a few of you to start thinking a little differently.

    Why? I don't know any Christians on any church or denomination who believes that Christ is walking the earth as an individual today.

    It's arrant nonsense to suggest that a large proportion of Christians believe that and that the only reason the rest of us don't is because they are keeping it a secret.

    I'm actually a toadstool but the rest of the Ship don't know that because I've kept it secret until now.

    Move along, there's nothing to see here.

    The reason why some don’t know isn’t because people are keeping it a secret it’s because they just haven’t come to that personal revelation yet.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    Don't feed the troll.

    I think trolling has to involve malice or at least purposely misleading people. People can also just be sincerely deluded, which I don't think is the same thing.
  • God I really do miss Martin now.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    I don't, Martin was patronising and rude especially to women on here. Someone claiming to be God incarnate who is also not sexist? Knock yourself out.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    Don't feed the troll.

    People can also just be sincerely deluded,

    indeed, billions are
  • Actually, I think he is patronizing and rude, though not specifically sexist so far.
  • ChastMastr wrote: »
    Actually, I think he is patronizing and rude, though not specifically sexist so far.

    Agreed.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    FFS I jump Ship for a few months, and this buffoonery is what I find when I step back aboard. LOL.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    FFS I jump Ship for a few months, and this buffoonery is what I find when I step back aboard. LOL.

    Welcome back. Sorry for the mess ...

    AFF
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    FFS I jump Ship for a few months, and this buffoonery is what I find when I step back aboard. LOL.

    welcome back haha
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited November 19
    Pomona wrote: »
    Don't feed the troll.

    I think trolling has to involve malice or at least purposely misleading people. People can also just be sincerely deluded, which I don't think is the same thing.
    Trolling doesn’t have to involve malice. It can be simply because the troll finds it entertaining to troll.

    But it helps if the troll is entertaining to others as well. This one is a one-trick pony, and the one trick isn’t a particularly good trick.

    ChastMastr wrote: »
    God I really do miss Martin now.
    Like @Pomona, I don’t.


    Glad to see you back, @The_Riv!


  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    The_Riv wrote: »
    FFS I jump Ship for a few months, and this buffoonery is what I find when I step back aboard. LOL.

    welcome back haha

    Boring.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    @ChastMastr @Bishops Finger I didn't say that this guy isn't rude and patronising, I just pointed out why I didn't miss Martin.
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