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  • I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.
  • Diomedes wrote: »
    I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.

    Oh dear!
  • RockyRoger wrote: »
    Diomedes wrote: »
    I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.

    Oh dear!

    Eye wateringly bad!
  • RockyRoger wrote: »
    Diomedes wrote: »
    I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.

    Oh dear!

    Eye wateringly bad!

    talk about innuendoes!
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    Diomedes wrote: »
    I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.

    Oh dear!

    Eye wateringly bad!

    talk about innuendoes!
    To quote Oscar Wilde, "I wish I had said that".

  • Enoch wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    Diomedes wrote: »
    I know a couple of the band guys. They used to be called Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas. Rather clever.

    Oh dear!

    Eye wateringly bad!

    talk about innuendoes!
    To quote Oscar Wilde, "I wish I had said that".

    You will, dear Enoch, you will!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited November 24
    I hope not!

    Do others talk of things "going pear-shaped" when they go wrong?

    Guilty as charged, m'lud!

    I was wondering why a reggae band was named after a rather duff medieval king! :mrgreen:

  • "Mutton dressed up as lamb", overheard in a recent conversation. This being a small country town, we often hear, and use, such relatively archaic expressions.
  • Our family went to see Wicked: For Good last night, and one of the songs in act II of Wicked is “No Good Deed.” I was surprised this morning when my 25-year-old daughter said she wasn’t familiar with the expression “no good deed goes unpunished,” which is central to the song.


  • When did anyone last hear "Wotcher?" It was understood to be short for "What cheer?" and was a common greeting among young schoolboys where I lived in Hertfordshire in the mid 50s. I am sure I never heard a girl use it.
  • When did anyone last hear "Wotcher?" It was understood to be short for "What cheer?" and was a common greeting among young schoolboys where I lived in Hertfordshire in the mid 50s. I am sure I never heard a girl use it.
    I only know “Wotcher” from Harry Potter, but its use in those books (primarily by Tonks, I think?) might indicate more recent usage.


  • I guessed it meant 'wotcher doin'?' but I am usually wrong.
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    ""Wotcher" shows up sometimes in the Royal Spyness novels by Rhys Bowen. So does "bobs your uncle".
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I only know “Wotcher” from Harry Potter, but its use in those books (primarily by Tonks, I think?) might indicate more recent usage.
    Quite a lot of Harry Potter is, I suppose intentionally, slightly dated.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    When did anyone last hear "Wotcher?" It was understood to be short for "What cheer?" and was a common greeting among young schoolboys where I lived in Hertfordshire in the mid 50s. I am sure I never heard a girl use it.

    Oddly, I used it yesterday in a text to Mrs Spike
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    edited December 7
    When did anyone last hear "Wotcher?" It was understood to be short for "What cheer?" and was a common greeting among young schoolboys where I lived in Hertfordshire in the mid 50s. I am sure I never heard a girl use it.

    There's a bloke (more mature end of the age spectrum) on our street who uses it. I think he's originally cockney ish.
    I used to hear it growing up in Essex.
  • I didn't know much about the history of the word until I asked Auntie Google just now. There are at least two places in the USA named "What Cheer" e.g. https://whatcheerprovidence.com/what-cheer/. I had a vague memory that it is to be found somewhere in Dickens, which sounds right, but am not sure where.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    There’s also a Christmastide carol setting by William Walton.
  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    And it appears in the music hall song ‘Knocked ‘em in the Old Kent Road’, of course, from the end of the 19th c.

    I had always thought - don’t quite remember why - that ‘what cheer’ was a mediaeval greeting, which obviously was/became pronounced as ‘wotcher’

    MMM
  • I feel wotcha is one of those phrases used to pretend to be cockney/East End. As we used to live in the East end, I am sure we did hear it, but not a lot.

    Dick van Dyke probably used it in Mary Poppins. Which would be the death knell to any actual cockney using it.
  • He said it to Admiral Bloom.
  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    Does anyone still use 'glory hole' in the original innocent meaning. My mum in her 90s does.
  • The 'inocent meaning' being what?
  • Does it have any un-innocent meaning?

    I don't want it explained, thank you. I expect I can guess, although the thought would not have come naturally.

    Seems to me that nowadays most words can have a far-from-innocent meaning, if that's the way your mind works
  • I always thought of it as the awkward shaped cupboard under the stairs where the junk that was too good to be thrown out was put. Also the winter boots. We haven't got stairs in this house, so I suppose that's why I haven't used it for a while.
  • Yes, I remember the sense of cupboard under the stairs, and latterly, the sense of hole in a partition for sexual encounters, of an anonymous sort. Maybe one usage declined as another ascended, if that's the right word. But I expect that stair cupboards have declined in modern housing. Anonymous sex? Don't know.
  • Does it have any un-innocent meaning?
    The “un-innocent” meaning is the only meaning I’ve ever heard or known. That’s nothing to do with how my mind works, but rather all about how the term is used.


  • Our local lake has a downward whirlpool when it is full, following winter rains. It is called the Glory Hole officially in reports.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited December 10
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Does it have any un-innocent meaning?
    The “un-innocent” meaning is the only meaning I’ve ever heard or known. That’s nothing to do with how my mind works, but rather all about how the term is used.


    I'm exactly the opposite - I only know the cupboard-under-the-stairs meaning.
  • We called it a cubby hole. No idea where that phrase came from.
  • My father had two small cubby holes (compartments) in his bureau.
  • I always thought of it as the awkward shaped cupboard under the stairs where the junk that was too good to be thrown out was put. Also the winter boots. We haven't got stairs in this house, so I suppose that's why I haven't used it for a while.

    Ah. the "cupboard under the stairs".
  • But I expect that stair cupboards have declined in modern housing.

    To the extent that modern houses have stairs, they must surely have some otherwise un-useful space beneath them, surely? I suppose you could go open-plan, but then you just have the useless space out in free view, rather than being walled away and put to use.
  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    Indeed - glory hole as the cupboard under the stairs full of junk and clutter.

    I have innocently used this dated phrase at work to colleagues, to their amusement.

    Heron
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    I've seen it used for a privy.

    We had a cupboard under the stairs, and it was called the cupboard etc
  • Our cupboard under the stairs was a pantry, when I lived at home. I don't think it has to be under the stairs - just the place where thinks go and you never want to have to explore to find.

    The more recent meaning is one I know as well. But in fairness, I have never used the term in either meaning.
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