Who's next?
I remember starting a similar thread in Trump's first term at about the same time, just when the mid terms were coming up. Trump realizes his winning team is losing, and he makes changes.
This time around he first cans Kristi Noem--look at the mess she has gotten herself in.
Then he cans Pam Bondi--Epstein files and her lack of progress in going after his perceived enemies.
Whose next?
Will it be Tulsi Gabbard
or
Kash Patel?
My money is on Pete Hegseth because the war is not going so well.
The dream team is falling apart. It has become a nightmare.
Who is next.
This time around he first cans Kristi Noem--look at the mess she has gotten herself in.
Then he cans Pam Bondi--Epstein files and her lack of progress in going after his perceived enemies.
Whose next?
Will it be Tulsi Gabbard
or
Kash Patel?
My money is on Pete Hegseth because the war is not going so well.
The dream team is falling apart. It has become a nightmare.
Who is next.
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That still may happen, though I do not think it will happen until after the mid terms.
Under the 25th even if the cabinet declares the president incapacitated, he can still appeal to the congress to reinstate him. After the new congress is seated, assuming the majority are Democrats in both houses, he could not hope to be reinstated.
Thus, he has to pad the cabinet with as many of his loyalists as he can.
But it would be sweet if they boot him.
He doesn’t appeal to Congress to reinstate him exactly. If he submits a written declaration to Congress that he is under no disability from executing the duties of his office, then he is automatically reinstated unless the vice-president and a majority of the cabinet, within four days, submit their own written declaration that he is unable to execute the duties of his office. If that happens, and if Congress does not vote by 2/3 majorities in both Houses that he is unable to execute the duties of his office, he would automatically be reinstated to office.
So it’s not enough for Democrats to have majorities in each chamber. (And I can see reasons related to the 2028 elections why some Democrats would be leery of voting for removal.)
Of course, I think it’s theoretical to start with. I simply can’t imagine Trump’s cabinet acting to remove him, especially knowing that Congress would be very unlikely to back them up.
Leavitt is the fall person for unpopularity in the media and polls.
I’m not sure who else might fall first. But it looks like one of them.
Personally, I hope it’s Hegseth. Both dreadful and incompetent.
I don't know that much about the US's constitution, but is there any way the boss can get rid of a Vice President he doesn't like, other than by death or impeachment - though I suppose the first of these can always be arranged.
No, simply because it would be unusual for their male counterparts to wear jewellery even if it's religious jewellery - it's not because they're more religious.
I suppose it could still happen.
I can see few benefits for Vance in trying to oust Trump and a lot of potential downsides - especially if he failed.
Vance has got where he is by not having any discernible views and by watching which way the wind is blowing and following that. This is why he flipped from being very critical of Trump to being a devoted follower. He (and his wealthy backers) are simply interested in power and money.
I'd certainly agree he's got an eye on the main chance and lacks scruples and principles.
But yes, he could crash and burn if he tried anything on. He'd be wiser to sit tight and wait for the ball to come to him.
Which is why I’m not at all convinced that Vance is a shoo-in for the Republican nomination for POTUS in 2028. He may be the most obvious successor, but I expect a number of others will challenge him, and I wouldn’t predict at this point how it’ll end up.
Right. The only option Trump and others, like Congressional leaders, might have is in pressuring Vance to resign. Absent resignation, the only way to remove Vance from office is impeachment by the House and conviction in the Senate.
Donald has not exactly done things the way he should so far. As others have said he could find a way. Trump doesn’t seem to value loyalty as much as we thought (Pam Bondi) and Vance does have his eye on the top job as has been mentioned.
Does the 25th Amendment not apply to the Vice President? It would seem something of an oversight if it doesn't.
As has been explained in this thread, unless it’s very clear to pretty much everyone that the president is actually disabled and unable to carry out his duties, the Twenty-fifth Amendment simply isn’t that going to be easy to invoke and carry-out. Trump will fight it, and there won’t be the votes in Congress to uphold the removal.
No, it doesn’t, except to the extent it says the VP becomes POTUS if the POTUS is removed from office, and provides the method for selecting a new VP.
I'm not saying he would or could but several Americans I met last year in different contexts felt he would if he could and might engineer a situation where Trump folds and he emerges as heir apparent and even worse because he's smarter than Trump.
I'm just relaying what they said.
I'm no expert on US politics but must admit it doesn't seem likely to me now either but they must have had grounds for that assumption the time.
Some of them were Episcopalian clergy so they must have been right... 😉
My bet is Kash Patel will be next. He has been accused of drinking on the job. While he denies it, every so often videos like this will show up showing him partying hard.