10 years or so ago Congress set up a nonpartisan non-profit group called America250 to plan celebrations for 2026 at both state and federal levels. Trump set up Freedom 250 as an extremely partisan public-private partnership in an effort to eclipse the first group.
I suspect though, that most of the audience didn’t know the things they were going to were the “festival of Brexit” - e.g. the audience of Countryfile.
Maybe Tump should just have rebranded the Super Bowl as Freedom Super Bowl 250 and claimed the audience figures for that.
Not actually pavilion like what you would see at a World's Fair. More like sections, or stages in a long hall. I have been told if a state is not represented, the section that had been set aside for that state will have one or two chairs in it.
No, as I said earlier, private groups were invited to create exhibits for states that decided not to participate
Not actually pavilion like what you would see at a World's Fair. More like sections, or stages in a long hall. I have been told if a state is not represented, the section that had been set aside for that state will have one or two chairs in it.
No, as I said earlier, private groups were invited to create exhibits for states that decided not to participate
Some private groups did have their own exhibits but there is no evidence the private groups took over the spaces that withdrew from the Great American State Fair. The groups that set up their own displays had vendor booths. Nearly all of them were Conservative movement.
Relative to eg. the White House martial-arts fest, I can kinda dig the cool charlottzwebbisch vibe of a nationalized county fair(*). But I'm guessing Trump is one populist warrior who is incredibly unaccustomed to the logic and vibe of such an event, with no instinctive sense of how to plan or publicize one that goes beyond filling out the required paperwork.
(*) My hometown had an agricultural fair that IIRC was the origin of the long-running Klondike Days, but by the time I was going, no one seemed to be talking about it in specifically agricultural terms(thematically, it celebrated the Klondike Gold Rush, not farming), and I personally just knew it as a midway and a costume-week. Closer to the mark would be a much smaller francophone festival celebrating maple sugar along with what I would assume was attendant marketing, which I visited once or twice. That's about it for my direct experience of such festivals, and my general impression of them comes from American popular culture, though there are almost certainly Canadian examples as well.
Not actually pavilion like what you would see at a World's Fair. More like sections, or stages in a long hall. I have been told if a state is not represented, the section that had been set aside for that state will have one or two chairs in it.
No, as I said earlier, private groups were invited to create exhibits for states that decided not to participate
Some private groups did have their own exhibits but there is no evidence the private groups took over the spaces that withdrew from the Great American State Fair. The groups that set up their own displays had vendor booths.
Fair point. From what I’ve found in the NY Times and elsewhere, the spaces of some states that didn’t participate were left empty (except possibly, as you say, some chairs), some had murals, and some were repurposed.
...I'm guessing Trump is one populist warrior who is incredibly unaccustomed to the logic and vibe of such an event, with no instinctive sense of how to plan or publicize one that goes beyond filling out the required paperwork.
CNN quoted an anonymous White House staffer as saying that Trump was operating with a "If you build it, they will come" mentality. I've long thought that one of his flaws as a politician is an assumption that everyone who votes for him idolizes him in the same way that his hardcore MAGA fans do.
Which could mean that spectacular flops such as the National State Fair are unreliable measures of his popularity, since many of the stay-aways and don't-cares were never interested in that sorta thing in the first place, but could still vote Republican in the future.
That said, from an anti-Trump viewpoint, a failed event is still better than a succesful one, since it buttresses the image of him as a general loser.
Trump is expected to speak outside at a 4 July celebration on Saturday, despite the predicted high temperatures; the president has maintained he wants to gather outside for the celebration.
"By the way, on July 4th, it's going to be approximately 107 degrees out, and I'm gonna go and I'm gonna make a really long speech just to show that I can do anything."
If I've done the conversion to sensible units, that's 42C and it's DC so it'll be humid. That's well into the range of heat-humidity where sweat doesn't evaporate efficiently, and hence sweat is less effective at cooling the body (there's a cross over at 35C 100% humidity, higher temperatures at lower humidity, when the body actually absorbs heat from the air rather than shedding heat to air - even in the shade and with a breeze to move air). Trump may be invincible (on a stage it should be possible to provide shade and blow cool air across the stage), but I bet if there's a large number of people outside in the sun without artificial cooling for an extended period that this would result in some significant adverse health impacts for people in the audience. I hope the authorities are setting up cool areas to evacuate people to, with emergency medical services on location, or it's not impossible that those conditions could kill someone in a crowd in an outside location.
If I've done the conversion to sensible units, that's 42C and it's DC so it'll be humid. That's well into the range of heat-humidity where sweat doesn't evaporate efficiently, and hence sweat is less effective at cooling the body (there's a cross over at 35C 100% humidity, higher temperatures at lower humidity, when the body actually absorbs heat from the air rather than shedding heat to air - even in the shade and with a breeze to move air). Trump may be invincible (on a stage it should be possible to provide shade and blow cool air across the stage), but I bet if there's a large number of people outside in the sun without artificial cooling for an extended period that this would result in some significant adverse health impacts for people in the audience. I hope the authorities are setting up cool areas to evacuate people to, with emergency medical services on location, or it's not impossible that those conditions could kill someone in a crowd in an outside location.
That sounds like a significant health risk to any persons of approximately 80 years of age who will be obliged to be wearing a suit, even with the shade and the blown cool air.
It must be a nightmare for his team. The heat could cause problems for him and the crowd. It is a big occasion, when all the country will be watching. Security must be strong.
It must be a nightmare for his team. The heat could cause problems for him and the crowd. It is a big occasion, when all the country will be watching. Security must be strong.
When Biden was president, MAGA was certain that the government could control the weather. Odd that Trump isn't using these weather control powers to provide cooler weather in DC. Did Trump misplace the instruction book that tells him how to control the weather? Enquiring minds want to know!
I saw a clip yesterday of one women who was overcome by the heat. There was a medical tent and she said they took good care of her. One medical tent for a bigger crowd and higher heat does not sound like enough.
I saw a clip yesterday of one women who was overcome by the heat. There was a medical tent and she said they took good care of her. One medical tent for a bigger crowd and higher heat does not sound like enough.
I am sure there will be more than just one medical tent available for the expected crowd.
Now they say there will likely be thunderstorms in the area.
I know I will not be listening to that windbag, though.
AIUI, Taylor Swift's wedding is taking place this w/e - I'd hazard a guess that most people will be far more interested in that than in Trump's blusterings.
AIUI, Taylor Swift's wedding is taking place this w/e - I'd hazard a guess that most people will be far more interested in that than in Trump's blusterings.
AIUI, Taylor Swift's wedding is taking place this w/e - I'd hazard a guess that most people will be far more interested in that than in Trump's blusterings.
Which will drive trump maaaaad! 🤣
So prepare for the bit in his speech where he declares her not very popular and not as hot as she used to be.
Got to say, Madison Square Garden is air conditioned.
In truth, I will certainly be praying from them as Taylor and Travis celebrate their wedding (Rumor is, they had already tied the knot elsewhere--which is typical of their relationship).
There have been occasional mentions in the UK media about people walking out of Trump events, presumably being unwilling to listen to yet more of the man's interminable windy vapourings.
AIUI, Taylor Swift's wedding is taking place this w/e - I'd hazard a guess that most people will be far more interested in that than in Trump's blusterings.
O well - at least Trump will have 5000 'loyal' followers at his event...AIUI, the guest list at the wedding of Taylor and Travis will be slightly shorter (though no doubt Swifties will be in the area in their thousands...).
Another difference, I suppose, is that Ms Swift is a rather more attractive and engaging human being than Trump, to say the least. I appreciate that it's possible that Trump is not, in fact, a human being, but an Overlord from Alpha Centauri or somewhere.
I'd bet most Americans won't pay much attention to Trump or Swift. People tend to have family or local traditions for the 4th. My partner and I plan to eat hot dogs and walk over to the beach to watch the city's fireworks.
I'd bet most Americans won't pay much attention to Trump or Swift. People tend to have family or local traditions for the 4th. My partner and I plan to eat hot dogs and walk over to the beach to watch the city's fireworks.
I suspect that Taylor Swift fans in most countries will be paying more attention to her wedding than the average non-Swiftie American will be.
There have been occasional mentions in the UK media about people walking out of Trump events, presumably being unwilling to listen to yet more of the man's interminable windy vapourings.
Is this now a common practice?
Yes. Next question.
FLASH ALERT NBC NEWS HAS ANNOUNCED TAYLOR AND TRAVIS ARE MARRIED.
I never mentioned which of them would be giving up independence. Is it an indication that the patriarchy is still alive and kicking if people assume that marriage means the bride gives up independence?
I never mentioned which of them would be giving up independence. Is it an indication that the patriarchy is still alive and kicking if people assume that marriage means the bride gives up independence?
If you are following through the traditional property the bride never had any independence. She goes from her father to her husband. That is why her father traditionally gives her away.
A happy note from the 4th of July gathering at the National Mall in Washington. As the weather started looking dangerous, a huge electronic billboard lit up urging the good people there to "Please evacuate". I wonder if they did? It would be the perfect recognition of trump.
The mall was evacuated. Most people took shelter in museums or government buildings. Not sure how many returned to the mall after the thunderstorm had passed though.
I never mentioned which of them would be giving up independence. Is it an indication that the patriarchy is still alive and kicking if people assume that marriage means the bride gives up independence?
I would say that if either will give up their independence there is some patriarchy going on. For instance, standard interpretations would say either she will stop him from partying with the guys and make him not wild or he will control his wealthy wife
AIUI, Taylor Swift's wedding is taking place this w/e - I'd hazard a guess that most people will be far more interested in that than in Trump's blusterings.
I'm sure that I wish Ms Swift and Mr Kelce well in their marriage, but I'm deeply confused about why anyone should be interested in their wedding. There's something about the cult of celebrity that I just don't get.
It's easy to understand why fans of Ms Swift's music would want to hear her in concert: she's a talented performer and puts on a good show. Assuming that she's not performing at her wedding, I don't understand why that's interesting to anyone who isn't the hopefully happy couple's family or friends.
The mall was evacuated. Most people took shelter in museums or government buildings. Not sure how many returned to the mall after the thunderstorm had passed though.
I was wondering about the other meaning of 'evacuate'...
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It’s only politics in that politics is showbiz for ugly folks.
I suspect though, that most of the audience didn’t know the things they were going to were the “festival of Brexit” - e.g. the audience of Countryfile.
Maybe Tump should just have rebranded the Super Bowl as Freedom Super Bowl 250 and claimed the audience figures for that.
Some private groups did have their own exhibits but there is no evidence the private groups took over the spaces that withdrew from the Great American State Fair. The groups that set up their own displays had vendor booths. Nearly all of them were Conservative movement.
(*) My hometown had an agricultural fair that IIRC was the origin of the long-running Klondike Days, but by the time I was going, no one seemed to be talking about it in specifically agricultural terms(thematically, it celebrated the Klondike Gold Rush, not farming), and I personally just knew it as a midway and a costume-week. Closer to the mark would be a much smaller francophone festival celebrating maple sugar along with what I would assume was attendant marketing, which I visited once or twice. That's about it for my direct experience of such festivals, and my general impression of them comes from American popular culture, though there are almost certainly Canadian examples as well.
CNN quoted an anonymous White House staffer as saying that Trump was operating with a "If you build it, they will come" mentality. I've long thought that one of his flaws as a politician is an assumption that everyone who votes for him idolizes him in the same way that his hardcore MAGA fans do.
Which could mean that spectacular flops such as the National State Fair are unreliable measures of his popularity, since many of the stay-aways and don't-cares were never interested in that sorta thing in the first place, but could still vote Republican in the future.
That said, from an anti-Trump viewpoint, a failed event is still better than a succesful one, since it buttresses the image of him as a general loser.
trump really does think he's invincible.
...but he'll hail it as the Bestest Speech ever made by a US President...
(Innocent face smiley.)
That sounds like a significant health risk to any persons of approximately 80 years of age who will be obliged to be wearing a suit, even with the shade and the blown cool air.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I am sure there will be more than just one medical tent available for the expected crowd.
Now they say there will likely be thunderstorms in the area.
I know I will not be listening to that windbag, though.
Maybe she think they're forming "a more perfect union"?
I hear their first date was a nice tea party.
Which will drive trump maaaaad! 🤣
So prepare for the bit in his speech where he declares her not very popular and not as hot as she used to be.
His crowd will still be Biglier than hers, though...
I expect each person attending the Trumpenfest will be Biglier.
In truth, I will certainly be praying from them as Taylor and Travis celebrate their wedding (Rumor is, they had already tied the knot elsewhere--which is typical of their relationship).
Is this now a common practice?
He's already there.
I guess it saves gas.
O well - at least Trump will have 5000 'loyal' followers at his event...AIUI, the guest list at the wedding of Taylor and Travis will be slightly shorter (though no doubt Swifties will be in the area in their thousands...).
Another difference, I suppose, is that Ms Swift is a rather more attractive and engaging human being than Trump, to say the least. I appreciate that it's possible that Trump is not, in fact, a human being, but an Overlord from Alpha Centauri or somewhere.
I suspect that Taylor Swift fans in most countries will be paying more attention to her wedding than the average non-Swiftie American will be.
Yes. Next question.
FLASH ALERT NBC NEWS HAS ANNOUNCED TAYLOR AND TRAVIS ARE MARRIED.
Travis Kelce is wealthy, worth about $40 million. But not in Taylor Swift’s league. I should think there’s an interesting pre-nup around somewhere.
Apparently he’s signed up for another season with the Chiefs. After that, he’ll probably retire. Maybe he’ll be a kept man in the future?
So maybe it’s Travis who’ll give up his independence?
Whatever, I wish them both well. He’s been a great NFL player, she’s a great singer/performer.
Trump is just a great waste of space.
If you are following through the traditional property the bride never had any independence. She goes from her father to her husband. That is why her father traditionally gives her away.
I would say that if either will give up their independence there is some patriarchy going on. For instance, standard interpretations would say either she will stop him from partying with the guys and make him not wild or he will control his wealthy wife
I'm sure that I wish Ms Swift and Mr Kelce well in their marriage, but I'm deeply confused about why anyone should be interested in their wedding. There's something about the cult of celebrity that I just don't get.
It's easy to understand why fans of Ms Swift's music would want to hear her in concert: she's a talented performer and puts on a good show. Assuming that she's not performing at her wedding, I don't understand why that's interesting to anyone who isn't the hopefully happy couple's family or friends.
Poor Donnie. He had hoped to give the biggliest speech ever, but something or someone had other plans (a severe thunderstorm)
I was wondering about the other meaning of 'evacuate'...