Yes. Like neo-Thomism and Aquinas, neo-Calvinism is a dogmatic system which has lost almost any connection with either Calvin or anything he said. Like neo-Thomism, it also seems to relish its ability to exclude anyone who does not accept in full its prescriptive magisterium. In addition to the rigours of TULIP something particularly odd about it, is that although it claims to stand for the sovereignty of God, it does not seem to recognise that it gives every impression of prescribing God by its own parameters.
So far as I have been abke to tell, most churches that identify as Reformed do not live by neo-Calvinism. True neo-Calvinists are likelty to regard them as apostates for not doing so.
As such, I think the view @Gamma Gamaliel is questioning remains very much in the Reformed tradition, and particularly in neo-Calvinism, which adopts very similar theological processes of reasoning to those of neo-Thomism, but applies them differently.
So he most certainly did say it “remains very much in the Reformed tradition.”
Yes. Like neo-Thomism and Aquinas, neo-Calvinism is a dogmatic system which has lost almost any connection with either Calvin or anything he said. Like neo-Thomism, it also seems to relish its ability to exclude anyone who does not accept in full its prescriptive magisterium. In addition to the rigours of TULIP something particularly odd about it, is that although it claims to stand for the sovereignty of God, it does not seem to recognise that it gives every impression of prescribing God by its own parameters.
So far as I have been abke to tell, most churches that identify as Reformed do not live by neo-Calvinism. True neo-Calvinists are likelty to regard them as apostates for not doing so.
Yes, I’m very familiar with all of that, and more. I’ve said all of that countless times on the Ship over the years I’ve been here.
Yes, and I'm pleased that you've continued to say it but sorry that you've had to do so.
FWIW I've learned a lot about the Reformed tradition from your posts, just as I've learned more about the Lutheran tradition from the Lutheran Shipmates here.
There is a tendency within Orthodoxy to tar all of Western Christianity with a Thomist brush - 'Catholics and Protestants are two sides of the same coin...'
It's better to look for complementarity or common ground. That doesn't mean we elide differences but neither does it mean we should focus on them to the extent that we ignore each other.
My understanding (for what its worth) is that grace is not a "thing" that can almost be measured by the bucketful, but is the loving relationship always offered by God by which we are raised up.
But I expect I have got the wrong end of multiple sticks.
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So far as I have been abke to tell, most churches that identify as Reformed do not live by neo-Calvinism. True neo-Calvinists are likelty to regard them as apostates for not doing so.
Yes, I’m very familiar with all of that, and more. I’ve said all of that countless times on the Ship over the years I’ve been here.
FWIW I've learned a lot about the Reformed tradition from your posts, just as I've learned more about the Lutheran tradition from the Lutheran Shipmates here.
There is a tendency within Orthodoxy to tar all of Western Christianity with a Thomist brush - 'Catholics and Protestants are two sides of the same coin...'
It's better to look for complementarity or common ground. That doesn't mean we elide differences but neither does it mean we should focus on them to the extent that we ignore each other.
But I expect I have got the wrong end of multiple sticks.