AS: Sturgeon and Chips: the Scottish thread 2020

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  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    @North East Quine

    Alas, no - I didn't know about the Girls' School, or Jane Haining. A sad and poignant story indeed.

    RIPARIG.

    Kyrie eleison.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    What a brave lady. :cry:
  • The Church of Scotland still has a congregation in Budapest, made up of English speakers of many nations, and held in honour in the city because Jane Haining is far from forgotten there.
  • That is indeed good to hear - thank you!
  • That’s a very moving story, @Cathscats.
  • *bump*

    Some sensible words from Nicola Sturgeon:https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52394685

    A way to go yet, of course, but some positive thinking.

    Can we have a dose of that South of the Border, please?
  • I found this article very good. I am so glad we have Ms Sturgeon and not Mr Salmond in charge just now. https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-52401278
  • Cathscats wrote: »
    The Church of Scotland still has a congregation in Budapest, made up of English speakers of many nations, and held in honour in the city because Jane Haining is far from forgotten there.

    My wife and I worshipped there about 10 years ago. I think the building, having been a school in the Communist years, now belongs to the Hungarian Reformed Church. It contains a memorial to Jane Haining. BBC TV Scotland did a good programme about her a few years ago (sadly not at present available on iPlayer); and my wife has recently read this book: https://tinyurl.com/yb29abb7
  • Some sensible words from Nicola Sturgeon:https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52394685
    My wife agrees - and it's not just because she comes from north of the Border! Wales is also, we think, doing better than Westminster. Of course both nations have much smaller populations than That Other Country. (And Ulster seems to have vanished from our news entirely!)

  • I think I saw a brief mention of Arlene Foster on a news item some days ago - possibly saying something about continuing the lockdown, which would not be popular with Little England...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    That might well be the first sensible thing Ms. Foster has ever said.

    We've been noticing the almost total absence of statistics about Northern Ireland too - but the Westminster government tends to ignore NI anyway*, as the people there can't vote them out.

    * except when they need to buy their support ... :naughty:
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    About the only thing I've seen are comparisons of hospital death rates and other stats both sides of the Irish border. With those for the south (which followed WHO advice rather than form their own unique approach) being about half that of the north.
  • Is the Wastemonster 'government' perhaps contemplating throwing Northern Ireland under a bus, and selling it to the Republic? Just think - the £££ could be put towards the NHS back in Little England!
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    I think NI has already been thrown under a bus, as the land border is too much of a nuisance in getting any form of Brexit to work. Not that any form of Brexit could actually work ... just that the land border highlights that.
  • There was mention of NI on the BBC R4 Today programme this morning and a story online (link) saying that the death rate was higher than previously reported as a third of the deaths were in care homes.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Another beautiful sunny afternoon. I suspect I may be another Scottish instance of getting the best weather in April/May and it then raining for the rest of the summer (with autumn setting in about mid July).
  • well, if we can't go anywhere, it won't matter :pensive:
  • Will the rain keep the Dreaded Midges away?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Nothing keeps midges away. But fortunately not much of a problem in suburban Edinburgh.
  • The midges love the damp weather. Damp and warm is their favourite, but they will take any kind of damp that is above freezing. Warm dry weather is not so much to their liking.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Warm dry weather is also very unusual in Scotland
  • It is dirt dry in Aberdeenshire right now. Rain would be helpful....
  • I was aggrieved to hear from my usual B&B on Iona that solely because I had to cancel my trip there a couple of weeks ago, they enjoyed sunny weather instead of the rain that almost always accompanies me.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Firenze wrote: »
    Another beautiful sunny afternoon. I suspect I may be another Scottish instance of getting the best weather in April/May and it then raining for the rest of the summer (with autumn setting in about mid July).
    That’s a familiar pattern here in the damp north-west of England. Dry and sunny in the run-up to SATs, exams etc. Grey and damp when schools are free to do outdoor Ed activities, and for the summer holidays. (Sometimes another fine spell in the middle part of September.)
  • My wife and I should have been enjoying a short break in Jersey just now ... the good weather just rubs it in!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited April 2020
    Thanks for that link, @Curiosity killed - so far the only person I've known personally who's died from Covid 19 was the husband of a former colleague in Belfast.
    The weather here has indeed been lovely - I've got washing hanging out to dry, and I'm about to go for my permitted daily amble.

    If it stays like this and gets just a tiny bit warmer* for the next month or two, I'll be quite content!

    * not too much warmer - my summer clothes are still in transit, and I really don't want to have to replace them.
  • Ambleworthy Weather here in the Sad Southlands, too - but what do Scottish 'summer clothes' consist of? A slightly lighter pullover, and anorak, perhaps?
    :wink:

    Nota Bene - every time I've been to Scotland - late winter, summer, or autumn - the Weather has been quite reasonable. Possibly a bit overcast, and/or dampish, but nothing untoward...

    Perhaps Alba was welcoming back a Lost Son?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    - but what do Scottish 'summer clothes' consist of?

    Tweeds. When I first came to Edinburgh 40 years ago I would notice these ladies in tailored tweeds and buttoned up blouses in July. Though there would also be the lassies in the platform shoes and skimpy frocks in December.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    Aye weel - such lassies are common in the Sad Southlands all year round, be the Weather however inclement...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Over the last 16 years my Canadian summer clothes have served me well enough for short spells in Scotland in July or August - I'm rather looking forward to a summer when I don’t need air-con* ... :mrgreen:

    * The interval in Canada when I needed neither heating or air-con was painfully short.
  • The period in Scotland when you need neither heating nor heating can be even shorter. (No, that's not a typo).

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'm lucky in being warm-blooded - in the humid Canadian summers it was a curse, but here I think it might serve me rather well.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Scotland is doing what I think of as Ultra Spring: blue skies, crystalline air, green-gold leaves, blossom, birdsong - the lot.

    Which is not to say the rest of the summer will not be damp, grey and chilly.
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    No, but it is glorious just now! (Snow forecast here on Sunday...)
  • Firenze wrote: »
    Scotland is doing what I think of as Ultra Spring: blue skies, crystalline air, green-gold leaves, blossom, birdsong - the lot.

    Which is exactly what we have at the moment in Kent!

  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    And in Somerset!
  • How odd.

    No disrespect, but I hope we don't end up with the typical Scottish summer, so graphically described on this thread...
    :anguished:
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Clouded over, cool breeze and spits of rain here today. Weather forecast all about how great the weather is going to be today. So, at least somethings are normal.
  • DiomedesDiomedes Shipmate
    And in Essex - an absolutely beautiful day.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Firenze wrote: »
    Nothing keeps midges away. But fortunately not much of a problem in suburban Edinburgh.

    Not true. A big enough gale keeps them down in the ditches. One of the reasons my home is blessedly free of the wee buggers most of the time. Of course the wind does nothing about the cleggs.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited May 2020
    We were promised rain in Cardiff. We never got it. They had some in Llanelli ...

    We need it! What on earth has happened to the usual dismal great Welsh spring?

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I was swatting away at the midgies when we were chatting with the neighbours after applauding the NHS tonight - it was about 17°, and they were out in force.

    Are they usually around this early in the year? I'm used to seeing them in Orkney in August, but I don't feel as if I remember them being around in the spring.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    When I started to visit Scotland regularly, May was generally reckoned to be the best time to be here (specifically the Highlands, as I came up to bag Munro's) because there was a decent chance of good weather and low midge count. Once into June the weather was unlikely to be better, but the midges far more numerous. Over the last decade the midge count in May has noticeably increased.
  • Is that a result of global warming or have they emigrated to the more favourable political climate of North Britain?
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Almost certainly physical, rather than political, climate change. The midges need water to breed, so can't come out while it's cold enough for water and marshy ground to freeze. They do come out in small numbers early in the year, but quite often die off again with each hard frost. As the date of that last hard frost has moved to earlier in the year the first mass swarming of midges also moves forward in the year - and at the other end of the year they persist for longer into the autumn as well.

    Killing that giant was a big mistake.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited May 2020
    Almost certainly physical, rather than political, climate change.
    If the midge increase were due to political change, would that be because they like Sturgeon and Co. (and want to make journeys to Alba unattractive to the People of the Southland), or because they dislike her government (so want to get the Scots to vote her out, at which point they will cease their pestiferous torment - the midges, that is)? Hmm ...

    Someone suggested that Harry Lauder could never have really gone Roaming in the Gloaming ...
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    The midges, the midges,
    I'm not going to kid yez
    Those midges are really the limit.
    Wi' teeth like piranhas
    They'll drive you bananas
    If you let them get under your simmit


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IMLona9oelM
  • I had to look up that last word!

    For the benefit of other mystified Southrons, simmit/seemit/semmit means 'vest' (as in the garment so elegantly worn by Rab C Nesbitt?)
    :naughty:
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Hope you checked the video!
  • I did eventually (Broadband is so sloooooooooooow today)...
    :lol:
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