Not a good time for the Conservative government in the UK

HugalHugal Shipmate
So Sir Jacob, Nadine Dorres and others have been accused by the committee investigating Partygate of interfering in the investigation. There will be a parliamentary vote early July.
Meanwhile the government’s Ruanda deal has been pronounced illegal by the courts. I almost feel sorry for Rishi
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  • Oh dear.
    How sad.
    Never mind.
  • Hugal wrote: »
    I almost feel sorry for Rishi

    I don't. He can stop it any time he likes by going to the King and asking him for a dissolution.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    It's far worse to be living under the Conservative government.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    <The sound of the worlds smallest violin.>
  • Is it ever a good time to be living under a Conservative government?

    Declaration of interest: I started the Thatcher era in 1979 as a £4,000 pa sums teacher and ended it in 1980 as a database analyst who could name my own fee. Riding the tide of the IT boom though, not a miner or a steelworker.
  • The government of Tory Island seems to be getting even further away from reality - Cruella claims that her evil Rwanda nightmare meets the approval of the majority of the British people.

    I doubt if that claim could be substantiated, although no doubt a sizeable number of racists, swivel-eyed loons, and the lackwits who read the Daily Wail, might approve of her plan.

    As to Mad Nad, and Cur Jacob Greasy-Dog, it is devoutly to be hoped that they slither under the stones of history very soon.

    Feel sorry for Rish!? I don't think so - he wanted the job, let him get on with it.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    As so often, I agree with BF - it's not as if Fishy Rishi needs the job - he and his missus have enough stashed away* to last them several lifetimes.

    As for Smog and Mad Nad - the sooner we see the back of them the better.

    * probably most of it well out of the reach of His Majesty's Revenue & Customs. :rage:
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 2023
    Amen to that @Piglet.

    What is really disturbing is the government's apparent willingness to disregard law in the name of fulfilling its evil plans.

    Judge: Your plan to send people to Rwanda is cruel, and wrong, and unlawful.
    Cruella: Sod you, we'll withdraw from the European Court of Human Rights, and do as we fucking well please. Who is going to stop us? Who cares about human rights? It's the Will Of The People. Mwahahahaha...
  • ETA:

    European convention on human rights I meant...
    :grimace:
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Zac has resigned
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    According to the latest rumours, that's a flounce to avoid having to apologise for trying to pressurise the Privileges Committee. I must admit, I was surprised when he claimed to have resigned out of concern for the environment.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Hugal wrote: »
    Zac has resigned
    Hadn't realised he was still in the government. 'He never will be missed'.

    After his being mentioned in the Privileges Committee report, it lets the PM off having to decide whether to sack him, and as he's a peer, there's no risk of his resigning from the Commons and stimulating a by-election.

  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 2023
    He may, in some people's eyes, be quite right in what he says about Rish!. and the PM's attitude towards climate change...

    From the Guardian:

    Zac Goldsmith has resigned as a minister, accusing Rishi Sunak of being “simply uninterested” in the environment – less than 24 hours after he was criticised by the privileges committee for undermining its inquiry into Boris Johnson.

    Rish! responds, in typical Yah Boo! fashion, that Goldsmith has resigned because he was criticised for being insulting about the Partygate committee.

    *sigh*


    Wouldn't be it nice to have some grown-ups running the country?
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate
    edited June 2023
    He may, in some people's eyes, be quite right in what he says about Rish!. and the PM's attitude towards climate change...

    From the Guardian:

    Zac Goldsmith has resigned as a minister, accusing Rishi Sunak of being “simply uninterested” in the environment – less than 24 hours after he was criticised by the privileges committee for undermining its inquiry into Boris Johnson.

    Rish! responds, in typical Yah Boo! fashion, that Goldsmith has resigned because he was criticised for being insulting about the Partygate committee.

    *sigh*


    Wouldn't be it nice to have some grown-ups running the country?

    It would. Unfortunately the other option are a bunch of control freak cowards who last had an original thought between them in 1994. Better, but not by much.

    Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.
  • Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.

    Scroll down to the results for 'St Mary's' here and see why one person in particular may be highly sensitive about calls for an progressive alliance in Oxford.
  • Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.

    Scroll down to the results for 'St Mary's' here and see why one person in particular may be highly sensitive about calls for an progressive alliance in Oxford.

    Ha ha ha! Fucking Akehurst again.

  • He may, in some people's eyes, be quite right in what he says about Rish!. and the PM's attitude towards climate change...

    I actually find it relatively easy to believe that Johnson was more interested in climate change than Sunak - even if only because of the influence on the former of his wife on the subject.

    Sunak, on the other hand, is an out and out Treasury man, and the Treasury's man.

    I mean, I wouldn't vote for either of them, but...

  • Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.

    Scroll down to the results for 'St Mary's' here and see why one person in particular may be highly sensitive about calls for an progressive alliance in Oxford.

    Ha ha ha! Fucking Akehurst again.

    My old ward. As an actual working adult, not a student. Hahahahaha.
  • Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.

    Scroll down to the results for 'St Mary's' here and see why one person in particular may be highly sensitive about calls for an progressive alliance in Oxford.

    Ha ha ha! Fucking Akehurst again.

    Is that the carroty-haired twit Luke Akehurst from Bristol University that I once met when both of us were seeking a hopeless Labour nomination in Clifton ward years ago? Who later turned up in London as the anti-anybody to the left of Attila the Hun enforcer for the Labour Party? I do believe it is. I wonder why he skulked off to Oxford? That was asking for trouble.
  • Speak of the devil:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/30/compass-chief-says-labour-has-expelled-him-and-attacks-party-tyranny
    Not just the left they're after now, it's anyone who expresses a different view, even when it's stating the bleeding obvious like supporting tactical voting.

    Scroll down to the results for 'St Mary's' here and see why one person in particular may be highly sensitive about calls for an progressive alliance in Oxford.

    Ha ha ha! Fucking Akehurst again.

    Is that the carroty-haired twit Luke Akehurst from Bristol University that I once met when both of us were seeking a hopeless Labour nomination in Clifton ward years ago? Who later turned up in London as the anti-anybody to the left of Attila the Hun enforcer for the Labour Party? I do believe it is. I wonder why he skulked off to Oxford? That was asking for trouble.

    Sounds like the one. No idea what the fuck he is doing in the Labour Party to begin with.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    We need something red on the outside and blue on the inside to describe these people as.
  • The only thing red about Akehurst was his hair. But I believe he shed that a while ago.
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    We need something red on the outside and blue on the inside to describe these people as.

    a very cold fire engine?
  • I thought Red Tory was the usual nomenclature.
  • The only thing red about Akehurst was his hair. But I believe he shed that a while ago.

    I seem to recall his face goes a sort of gammony-red when he gets going.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    Getting back to the Conservative government, if they can't use Rwanda as a dumping ground for unwanted immigrants, why not solve the one of NHS's problems by sending hospital bed-blockers there? Just a modest proposal, but it seems the Tory right may be going to press for an election pledge to quit the European Convention on Human Rights if the Supreme Court won't play ball. (Report in the i.)
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    I thought Red Tory was the usual nomenclature.

    I believe that's a canadianism? Coined by a political scientist named Gad Horowitz in the 1960s. The older British term is One Nation Conservatism, associated originally with Disraeli.

    Though, sure, "Red Tory" might have sailed across the Atlantic and domesticated itself into UK terminology.
  • I think the radical right are out of touch with the rhythm of politics. Going further right won't work, after the debacle of Brexit. But it seems inevitable that they'll see Sunack as moderate and yearn for a Braverman. Gosh, what a ghastly thought. But many politicians don't sense this rhythm, most famously Stalin. But then he could just kill the opposition.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Don't give Cruella ideas.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Don't give Cruella ideas.
    I don't think any of the current lot would know what to do with ideas.
  • I think the radical right are out of touch with the rhythm of politics. Going further right won't work, after the debacle of Brexit. But it seems inevitable that they'll see Sunack as moderate and yearn for a Braverman. Gosh, what a ghastly thought. But many politicians don't sense this rhythm, most famously Stalin. But then he could just kill the opposition.

    I've no issue with Braverman being tory leader, so long as it is after the next election.
  • Be careful what you wish for. They might win...
    :scream:
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    KarlLB wrote: »
    We need something red on the outside and blue on the inside to describe these people as.
    I think it needs to be a photoshopped watermelon, something that shouldn't exist in the real world.
  • Red Wall MPs apparently seeking to prevent foreign care workers getting work visas, cos they're forrin. This is so stupid, that we need a more extreme word, can't think of one. So you cut social care even more? Of course, the idea is to bring in Brits to do it, but hang on, the pay is crap. So you would raise wages? Errm.
  • O quite.

    Most people can see through this nonsense, apart from the swivel-eyed loons who are promoting it, along with the reader of the Daily Wail and the couple who watch GBNews...

    AIUI there are a couple of dozen lackwitted fucktard MPs who have come up with this spiffing wheeze - not enough to have any real effect (one hopes) but yet another headache for poor little Wishi Rish!...
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Can we avoid the -tard portmanteaux please?
  • Yes, by all means, but why do you ask?
    :wink:
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited July 2023
    Because it comes from the word retard, a derogatory word for people with learning disabilities/additional learning needs.
  • RocinanteRocinante Shipmate
    Red Wall MPs apparently seeking to prevent foreign care workers getting work visas, cos they're forrin. This is so stupid, that we need a more extreme word, can't think of one. So you cut social care even more? Of course, the idea is to bring in Brits to do it, but hang on, the pay is crap. So you would raise wages? Errm.

    If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a nation shooting itself in the foot, forever.
  • Because it comes from the word retard, a derogatory word for people with learning disabilities/additional learning needs.

    Ah - OK.

    I must admit that I hadn't realised this, so please accept my apologies (@KarlLB, too).

    My bad.
  • Red Wall MPs apparently seeking to prevent foreign care workers getting work visas, cos they're forrin. This is so stupid, that we need a more extreme word, can't think of one. So you cut social care even more? Of course, the idea is to bring in Brits to do it, but hang on, the pay is crap. So you would raise wages? Errm.

    This is the problem - any solution to the social care crisis is unacceptable to them.

    People from abroad? We voted leave to keep them out - willovdapeeple.
    Increase wages? Absurd. They should be grateful to have a job at all.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited July 2023
    A frightening development is the apparent emergence of a new party - the two dozen or so abovementioned *New Conservatives* - who probably think of Attila the Hun as woke.

    No doubt they will find some malevolent entity as their Leader, with Cruella being the favourite, I suspect.

    (BTW, a writer in the Guardian recently observed that the only people to be flown to Rwanda so far have been Cruella and her bodyguards... :lol: ).
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    (BTW, a writer in the Guardian recently observed that the only people to be flown to Rwanda so far have been Cruella and her bodyguards... :lol: ).

    Pity they flew them back again.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    I've no objection to her bodyguards coming back.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Quite. Their skills could be put to good use on someone worthwhile.
  • Red Wall MPs apparently seeking to prevent foreign care workers getting work visas, cos they're forrin. This is so stupid, that we need a more extreme word, can't think of one. So you cut social care even more? Of course, the idea is to bring in Brits to do it, but hang on, the pay is crap. So you would raise wages? Errm.

    This is the problem - any solution to the social care crisis is unacceptable to them.

    People from abroad? We voted leave to keep them out - willovdapeeple.
    Increase wages? Absurd. They should be grateful to have a job at all.

    Their proposed solution is generally to reduce unemployment benefits so that social care wages become more appealing in comparison.
  • Red Wall MPs apparently seeking to prevent foreign care workers getting work visas, cos they're forrin. This is so stupid, that we need a more extreme word, can't think of one. So you cut social care even more? Of course, the idea is to bring in Brits to do it, but hang on, the pay is crap. So you would raise wages? Errm.

    This is the problem - any solution to the social care crisis is unacceptable to them.

    People from abroad? We voted leave to keep them out - willovdapeeple.
    Increase wages? Absurd. They should be grateful to have a job at all.

    Their proposed solution is generally to reduce unemployment benefits so that social care wages become more appealing in comparison.

    Ah, "less eligibility", our old enemy.
  • I think Sunak showed his real colours recently. He will only spend money on people who will vote for him.

    Social care people will not. The unemployed will not. NHS workers will not. So he won't help them.

    Because he is, undeniably, a piece of corrupt, foetid shit. Like the rest of his party.

    There is a place in hell for them all.
  • How much longer must we endure these -er- people?

    They are not even proper Tories. I have worked alongside many Tories in days gone by, including politicians, and they were nothing like this lot. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that many of them were rational human beings with a genuine devotion to public service. Not the least like this bunch of corrupt, walking haemorrhoids.
  • There's still some time to go before the next General Election, but hopefully that event will see the whole of this ghastly crew consigned to perdition.
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