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  • North East Quine: It is at any rate a good thing that your son reads Austen.
  • Firenze wrote: »
    Primary education in the 1950s involved a lot of writing in cursive. <snip> Then the brother and I bought a Teach Yourself book on Italic script.

    I sill write IMO a fine Italic hand.
    My primary education in the fifties involved no cursive. It was all Marion Richardson.
    Then, on moving up to the Grammar School we were instructed in italic. I loved writing in italic, I thought it looked very smart.
    I didn't come across cursive until Elder Son acquired a French penfriend

    The years, and the introduction of the ball-point pen, along with a bit of arthritis and a lot of laziness has more or less destroyed any legibility in my handwriting although, given a pen with an italic nib I can write a few fairly decent lines.

  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Caissa wrote: »
    Are they called French sevens in the UK? I first read of them being used by Soviet era Grandmasters and simply associate them with Europe.
    This Brit would refer to them as a European or a continental seven.
  • The continental seven sound like cool jazz group
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    So, a squat beaker is . . . ?

    A short drinking vessel, like a tumbler or a possibly a short plastic drinking cup with a lid.

    I'm old enough to remember Call my Bluff, too. Sadly, Frank Muir is no longer around to give a witty alternative definition.
  • Old episodes of CMB are currently being shown on BBC4.
  • Isn't using the Continental 7 illegal post-Brexit?
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    So, a squat beaker is . . . ?

    A short drinking vessel, like a tumbler or a possibly a short plastic drinking cup with a lid.

    I'm old enough to remember Call my Bluff, too. Sadly, Frank Muir is no longer around to give a witty alternative definition.

    You can watch re-runs - still great fun 🙂

  • Darllenwr can write a good italic and taught himself Tolkien runes. One of my uncles could do what looked like copperplate with a biro..
    I used to write in a mixture of cursive and print.
  • I never knew that 'cursive' is a specific style of what we called 'joined up writing' until this thread....I thought it was just an American name for any joined up script. The style I was taught at school was italic (we had to get italic nibs for our fountain pens) but I honestly didn't realise that this didn't come under the umbrella term of 'cursive' (which is a term I only encountered relatively recently, online from Americans)
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited September 2024
    I never knew that 'cursive' is a specific style of what we called 'joined up writing' until this thread....I thought it was just an American name for any joined up script

    Isn't it? I still thought it was until you posted this. It's how I'm using the term. Cursive == joined up.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Eirenist wrote: »
    Isn't using the Continental 7 illegal post-Brexit?

    Only on the Piccadilly and Victoria lines following a reverse shunt.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    Eirenist wrote: »
    Isn't using the Continental 7 illegal post-Brexit?

    Only on the Piccadilly and Victoria lines following a reverse shunt.

    😂
  • Well, this is not from a greeting card. It is from Fortune Magazine. The conclusion sounds very familiar:
    Bosses also pointed to Gen Z being unprofessional, unorganized and having poor communication skills as their top reasons for having to sack grads.

    Leaders say they have struggled with the latest generation’s tangible challenges, including being late to work and meetings often, not wearing office-appropriate clothing, and using language appropriate for the workspace.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    edited September 2024
    Yes, Big B-Buisness has been whinging for some time now about its newest members. As conservative as Fortune is, it's little wonder they're just now publishing something like this. Welcome to the future, Fortune. :lol:
  • For some time in my early career I did not possess a wristwatch. I forget the reason for this. However I did know where all the visible clocks were in the area where I worked. I noted the time whenever I passed then
  • While we are at it, did you know the giant orange grifter is selling $100,000 wristwatches now? Gold or rose good. Here. All analog, of course.

    He claims they are not political. Therefore, this comment.

    Returning to the regular thread....
  • Boogie wrote: »
    Eirenist wrote: »
    Isn't using the Continental 7 illegal post-Brexit?

    Only on the Piccadilly and Victoria lines following a reverse shunt.

    😂

    Hurrah! Mornington Crescent and I claim my £5.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I never knew that 'cursive' is a specific style of what we called 'joined up writing' until this thread....I thought it was just an American name for any joined up script

    Isn't it? I still thought it was until you posted this. It's how I'm using the term. Cursive == joined up.

    I thought the same thing; when I hear "cursive" I just assume any kind of joined-up handwriting; did not even realize there were other kinds. I might need to look up visual examples.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    edited September 2024
    Here is wikipedia's take on the word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive
  • My handwriting is an odd mixture of printing and cursive. I guess I'm subconsciously selective about the connectivity of letters.
  • Me, too, @The_Riv I was the only child from my primary school to go to my new secondary school, because we changed areas when the family moved house. We were supposed to keep to the style that our primary schools had taught us, but nobody knew what that was for me, so I could make up my own style!
  • When someone says 'beaker' to me I am always reminded of Michael Flanders' comment on the drinking habits of certain prehistoric Britons:

    'They're not called the Beaker Folk for nothing!'

    On the subject of Kids These Days, there must be a reason why 'Honour your father and mother' is one of the ten commandments...
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    Telford wrote: »
    For some time in my early career I did not possess a wristwatch. I forget the reason for this. However I did know where all the visible clocks were in the area where I worked. I noted the time whenever I passed then

    [sings]
    If you want to know the time, ask a policeman …
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Or go to Zurich. I have never been anywhere with so many public clocks.
  • Or buy something and look on the till receipt.
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