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  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    I think some of his speech habits are very New York. My mother-in-law was from there; she would use some of the same expressions. Things were either very good or awful. She used awful a lot.

    T.rump's vocabulary is very limited. What he approves of is "beautiful", or "the best/biggest in HISTORY", and people he dislikes are "nasty".
  • *Bigliest*, rather than biggest...
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    The fellow who ghost-wrote, 'The art of the Deal', had to work very hard to make Trump's 'blunt, staccato, no-apologies delvery coherent and his voice palatable. The book of course enabled Trump to peddle his myths about himself and enabled him first to be a media presence and then president. Now, decades later, the writer, journalist Mark Schwartz, is full of remorse and fears he may be (at least in part) responsible for the end of civilisation.

    AND RIGHTLY SO - he and the makers of "The Apprentice" have a lot to answer for...
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Thanks for letting me know, Huia -- I'll keep posting them. And I think The Guardian is good for US news -- there's even a US edition -- and it's free.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Ruth wrote: »
    Thanks for letting me know, Huia -- I'll keep posting them. And I think The Guardian is good for US news -- there's even a US edition -- and it's free.

    Not anymore. I just tried to access a story in The Guardian and I came up with a paywall asking me to contribute $15.00 before I could proceed. See this article: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/guardian-limits-app-articles-introduces-145346908.html
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Ruth wrote: »
    Thanks for letting me know, Huia -- I'll keep posting them. And I think The Guardian is good for US news -- there's even a US edition -- and it's free.

    Not anymore. I just tried to access a story in The Guardian and I came up with a paywall asking me to contribute $15.00 before I could proceed. See this article: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/guardian-limits-app-articles-introduces-145346908.html

    I still find it pretty accessible.

    And helpful hint for all my fellow free-riding low-lifes...

    The Guardian likes to disguise its fundraising pleas as paywalls(*), but in fact, the articles are usually still available for free. Not sure if and how the new policy will change this.

    (*) Eg. "BECOME A MEMBER TO KEEP SEEING ARTICLES LIKE THIS", which the reader may misinterpret as "You can't see this article without becoming a member."
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Ruth wrote: »
    Thanks for letting me know, Huia -- I'll keep posting them. And I think The Guardian is good for US news -- there's even a US edition -- and it's free.

    Not anymore. I just tried to access a story in The Guardian and I came up with a paywall asking me to contribute $15.00 before I could proceed. See this article: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/guardian-limits-app-articles-introduces-145346908.html

    I still find it pretty accessible.

    And helpful hint for all my fellow free-riding low-lifes...

    The Guardian likes to disguise its fundraising pleas as paywalls(*), but in fact, the articles are usually still available for free. Not sure if and how the new policy will change this.

    (*) Eg. "BECOME A MEMBER TO KEEP SEEING ARTICLES LIKE THIS", which the reader may misinterpret as "You can't see this article without becoming a member."

    Seems like a pretty strong paywall to me. They are not the only ones moving to that model. Even the AP and Reuters are moving that way. UPI still seems free, but I think it will only be a matter of time.

    So, the question is do I want to pay $15 per year for the Guardian, or do I want to shell out $52 a year for the NYT. The jury is out on that question.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Keep clicking, @Gramps49 - The Guardian is still free. That article is about their app. They periodically throw up something that looks like a paywall but in fact is a plea for contributions.
  • Ruth wrote: »
    Keep clicking, @Gramps49 - The Guardian is still free. That article is about their app. They periodically throw up something that looks like a paywall but in fact is a plea for contributions.

    Same for the Australian edition of The Grauniad. What appears to be a paywall, is just a plea for contributions. Click away, you'll still get the article.
    As it happens, I do subscribe, the only international news site for which I choose to pay. Bit of an echo chamber for my Weltanschauung, but it's good for my blood pressure.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Ruth wrote: »
    Keep clicking, @Gramps49 - The Guardian is still free. That article is about their app. They periodically throw up something that looks like a paywall but in fact is a plea for contributions.

    Same for the Australian edition of The Grauniad. What appears to be a paywall, is just a plea for contributions. Click away, you'll still get the article.
    As it happens, I do subscribe, the only international news site for which I choose to pay. Bit of an echo chamber for my Weltanschauung, but it's good for my blood pressure.

    It's a bit right wing for my tastes, but it's mostly "sigh and shake my head" bad rather than "shout and the screen and throw things" bad. Except the coverage of trans people.
  • Ruth wrote: »
    Keep clicking, @Gramps49 - The Guardian is still free. That article is about their app. They periodically throw up something that looks like a paywall but in fact is a plea for contributions.

    Same for the Australian edition of The Grauniad. What appears to be a paywall, is just a plea for contributions. Click away, you'll still get the article.
    As it happens, I do subscribe, the only international news site for which I choose to pay. Bit of an echo chamber for my Weltanschauung, but it's good for my blood pressure.

    It's a bit right wing for my tastes, but it's mostly "sigh and shake my head" bad rather than "shout and the screen and throw things" bad. Except the coverage of trans people.

    Right wing, eh. That's not what Herr Dutton thinks.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Ruth wrote: »
    Keep clicking, @Gramps49 - The Guardian is still free. That article is about their app. They periodically throw up something that looks like a paywall but in fact is a plea for contributions.

    Same for the Australian edition of The Grauniad. What appears to be a paywall, is just a plea for contributions. Click away, you'll still get the article.
    As it happens, I do subscribe, the only international news site for which I choose to pay. Bit of an echo chamber for my Weltanschauung, but it's good for my blood pressure.

    It's a bit right wing for my tastes, but it's mostly "sigh and shake my head" bad rather than "shout and the screen and throw things" bad. Except the coverage of trans people.

    Right wing, eh. That's not what Herr Dutton thinks.

    Well yes, but Dutton probably thinks Hitler was a socialist.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    Wht 'deal' can Trump offer the King of Canada at his mooted visit (assuming he is aware that is Charles) to induce him to cece the Dominion? An invitation to Mar-a-Lago where the President will negotiate peace with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in 24 hours?
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    DT has done some good recently. He helped to prevent Canada from an electing a Conservative government lead by PP.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »
    DT has done some good recently. He helped to prevent Canada from an electing a Conservative government lead by PP.

    You're welcome! :wink:

    Opposition dude even lost his seat. That must be at least a little humiliating.
  • Maybe there are some gods, after all - even if they're small ones...
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »
    DT has done some good recently. He helped to prevent Canada from an electing a Conservative government lead by PP.

    Someone observed that Donald Trump is the first American president to lose a Canadian election.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Carney did a good job at the Bank of England. He stood up to people when necessary. He is the right person to negotiate with Trump. He won’t stand for Trumps rubbish. Not only that he holds some strong cards.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Caissa wrote: »
    DT has done some good recently. He helped to prevent Canada from an electing a Conservative government lead by PP.

    Someone observed that Donald Trump is the first American president to lose a Canadian election.

    Following the illustrious example of Champ Clark.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Will American survive the next 100 days? Robert Reich fears not. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/30/trump-next-100-days
  • TukaiTukai Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Caissa wrote: »
    DT has done some good recently. He helped to prevent Canada from an electing a Conservative government lead by PP.

    Someone observed that Donald Trump is the first American president to lose a Canadian election.

    Following the illustrious example of Champ Clark.

    With luck the same might happen at the Australian election, where the leader of the righter party (Mr Dutton) started starting his campaign by respecting Trump's job in USA. Then Trump really got underway with the horror of his broad policy and his frequent reversal from day. This got so many protests in Australia that Dutton had to do reversals himself.
    The Australian election has had voting, with more than 1/3 having already voted. THe official voting day is the coming Saturday (i.e tomorrow) after which we shall see.
  • SojournerSojourner Shipmate
    I’d say that as regards Dutton the damage is well and truly done although probably too much to hope that he loses his seat.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited May 2
    News item: Trump blames the shrinking economy on Joe Biden.

    Did you hear Trump is renaming the San Andreas Fault* Joe Biden's Fault.

    *The San Andreas Fault is a fault line that goes through California from Baja to the San Francisco Bay.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    The San Andreas fault runs from the Salton Sea in Imperial County to a point offshore west of Eureka.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Will American survive the next 100 days? Robert Reich fears not. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/30/trump-next-100-days

    I have my doubts that GW Bush and Dick Cheney, who sent Sam Alito to the SCOTUS, are really people commited to protecting American democracy. Alito and Thomas(another Bush-family appointee) are actually more consistently reactionary than Trump's three judges.

    That said, even asshole right-wingers, once retired, are pretty much harmless, and if there are some swing voters who could be convinced to turn against Trump on Bush and Cheney's advice, I guess I'd welcome any statement they may wish to make in that regard.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited May 3
    Earlier this week, Lindsey Graham posted a plea for people to be open-minded about the idea of a Trump papacy.

    And now...

    Google "AI Pope Trump on Truth Social"
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Hubris is not something he worries about is it ?
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    He looks so grim there.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Ruth wrote: »
    He looks so grim there.

    Where's Francis Bacon when you need him?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited May 4
    Bill Kristol, neocon war-architect turned anti-MAGA insurgent, posted an attack on JD Vance, asking the veep if he approves of Trump's papal posturing.

    Vance then replied that he's okay with "jokes", but not with "people starting stupid wars that kill thousands of my countrymen".

    Gotta say, I agree that, when all is said and done, Kristol's wars are far more reprehensible than Trump's meme. And even during my days as a Catholic, I don't think I woulda considered a politician flippantly musing about being Pope particularly offensive, just somewhat tacky, not to mention electorally unwise.

    But that's not neccessarily what American Catholic opinion will think. The bishops of New York state have already condemned Trump in the strongest of terms.

    Overall, I'm personally less worried about any lese majeste against Catholicism, and more about possible indications that Trump is in the throes of a mad-king phase.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Right-wing nutjobs flipped out over Obama wearing a tan suit. Imagine if he'd circulated a picture of himself as pope.
  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    News item: Trump blames the shrinking economy on Joe Biden.

    Did you hear Trump is renaming the San Andreas Fault* Joe Biden's Fault.

    *The San Andreas Fault is a fault line that goes through California from Baja to the San Francisco Bay.

    That belongs in the Bad Jokes thread in Heaven!
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    News item: Trump blames the shrinking economy on Joe Biden.

    Did you hear Trump is renaming the San Andreas Fault* Joe Biden's Fault.

    *The San Andreas Fault is a fault line that goes through California from Baja to the San Francisco Bay.

    That belongs in the Bad Jokes thread in Heaven!

    Along with something seen on a banner at a protest - "the only person Trump ever hired who was qualified for the job was Stormy Daniels"
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Bill Kristol, neocon war-architect turned anti-MAGA insurgent, posted an attack on JD Vance, asking the veep if he approves of Trump's papal posturing.

    Vance then replied that he's okay with "jokes", but not with "people starting stupid wars that kill thousands of my countrymen".

    First off, Donald Trump has almost no sense of humor. The only thing he finds funny is the suffering of others, so any "jokes" of his should be seen through that lens. Second, "joking" about this during the official mourning period for Pope Francis is almost the definition of "too soon". Third, the official White House Xitter feed should not be treated like it's the Chuckle Hut.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited May 4
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    News item: Trump blames the shrinking economy on Joe Biden.

    Did you hear Trump is renaming the San Andreas Fault* Joe Biden's Fault.

    *The San Andreas Fault is a fault line that goes through California from Baja to the San Francisco Bay.

    That belongs in the Bad Jokes thread in Heaven!

    Along with something seen on a banner at a protest - "the only person Trump ever hired who was qualified for the job was Stormy Daniels"

    AIUI Ms Daniels was less than impressed with the one who hired her...
    :naughty:
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    I could post the joke about trans athletes he told at the University of Alabama, but I won't. Gets into Epiphanies territory.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Thank you.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    When I saw the crowds at the Pope's funeral I said " Trump will be jealous of this love and reverence." He craves adoring crowds more than anything on Earth, I think.
  • The bigliest crowds, certainly - whether they're adoring Him or not doesn't matter as long as they're the bigliest.

    What a sad muppet he is.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    The bigliest crowds, certainly - whether they're adoring Him or not doesn't matter as long as they're the bigliest.

    What a sad muppet he is.

    No anti-muppet jokes here, please. How I wish in the UK we had Kermit for PM and Miss Piggy for Home Sec!
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Such nonsense. Maybe all such nonsenses are a loyalty test for Presidential appointees and GOP Senators and Congress members?

    Reminds me of the Henry VIII court except that Trump doesn’t have the power of execution; yet.

    Three years and eight months to go ….
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    The bigliest crowds, certainly - whether they're adoring Him or not doesn't matter as long as they're the bigliest.
    What a sad muppet he is.

    No anti-muppet jokes here, please. How I wish in the UK we had Kermit for PM and Miss Piggy for Home Sec!

    Kermit would make a great pope, BTW.
    • Always visibly wears a collar
    • Very reflective (prayerful?)
    • Gives good advice
    • Man of the cloth
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    Frog of the cloth, certainly!
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Barnabas62 wrote: »

    Reminds me of the Henry VIII court except that Trump doesn’t have the power of execution; yet.

    The de facto power of rendition to CECOT comes awfully close.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Barnabas62 wrote: »
    Such nonsense. Maybe all such nonsenses are a loyalty test for Presidential appointees and GOP Senators and Congress members?

    Reminds me of the Henry VIII court except that Trump doesn’t have the power of execution; yet.

    Three years and eight months to go ….

    Trump has called for several executions of some "real bad people." The only thing preventing him is the judicial system, it seems.

    BTW, the reason why my family ended up in the New World, was a certain king wanted off with my forefather's head allegedly for sedition.

    I am hoping Mr T will be impeached and convicted for high crimes and misdemeanors in a a couple of years. The third time is the charm, you know.

  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Even better, sooner than a couple of years - though probably would need a change of composition of Senate and House or Representatives following the mid-terms, given the unlikelihood (but, not impossibility) of Republicans prosecuting the President.
  • TukaiTukai Shipmate
    Sojourner wrote: »
    I’d say that as regards Dutton the damage is well and truly done although probably too much to hope that he loses his seat.

    We now have the results of the Australian election. Just as in Canada, the 'conservative' party not only lost the election, despite being looked to win six months, but also its party leader (Mr Dutton) lost his seat in parliament. One major reason for their election loss was his quoting Trump early in the campaign as an example that Australia should follow Trump. Though the public reaction by the Australian population to that as Trump got even worse as time went on, Dutton found it necessary for Dutton to change that explicit earlier policy of his.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Quoted from another site:
    Tr*mp was upset the funeral ceremony wasn't about him. So was everyone else.
  • LouiseLouise Epiphanies Host
    Apparently the latest National Security scandal in the Trump administration is quite something. They've been using a very insecure clone of Signal for archiving and it predictably got hacked very easily.

    https://www.404media.co/the-signal-clone-the-trump-admin-uses-was-hacked/

    Other half is an expert in cybersecurity and was utterly gobsmacked at how stunningly incompetent they are. He was reduced to shaking his head and muttering 'but her emails!'
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