Because Mario you were to all intents and purposes safe as there was only one more no-lynch vote required and several people had declared themselves as leaning that way. As it was late in the UK, and the Mafia may well be spread across more than one continent, the chances of an actual pile-on to get the other 4 votes to lynch you was low, but if people did take the bait it would help us in the end game to have some more evidence to go on as to who is innocent and who is Mafia.
I know people are in different time zones, but nobody has voted for at least twenty-four hours, and we don't have enough votes to settle the matter yet. I want to know what happens.
I'm starting to think that either Mario is guilty so the Mafia didn't want to vote for him, or more likely that the Mafia have already mostly voted and therefore couldn't follow my vote for Mario.
I'm personally thinking that because no one is engaging very much that the game isn't much fun. I'm starting to think half of the players really didn't want to play. If it was allowed to change my vote, I'd vote myself off the island so I could quit.
Well, I have a great desire to get to 'teccing, but it ain't gonna happen till night falls. You've had my vote already. I was last seen seated on the shore, being sneaked up on by person or person(s) unknown, with what nefarious motives nobody knows! I fear i can offer no more... well, perhaps a strip tease?
I'm starting to think that either Mario is guilty so the Mafia didn't want to vote for him, or more likely that the Mafia have already mostly voted and therefore couldn't follow my vote for Mario.
Eliab had said he was waiting to see how everybody else would vote. On the assumption that Mario is innocent, the Mafia would have been happy to all cast their votes after Eliab had cast his, but wouldn't have wanted to all vote for Mario in a rush at the end if Eliab was then going to change his mind about it.
If my analysis is right then my prime suspects are, Penny, Fifi, and nem the cat. Not that I'm 100% confident. Actually I'm probably wrong. I just think I'm less probably wrong than with any other trio.
My vote won’t make much of a difference, of course. I’m uneasy about voting for anyone who the bad guys were happy to see nominated without opposition. But if that were conclusive, that would let them answer any nomination by saying that they must be innocent or they or an accomplice would have nominated someone else.
We can’t win, ultimately, unless we’re willing to vote people out. So I would have tentatively, and with many misgivings, voted Mario.
Well viewers, I for one am glad to get through a day without losing any more of our contestants. The tension was getting too much.
No lynching. Night falls.
Nemmy stretches. And then stretches again.
Sorry, I’ve had an odd cat nap here and there and kept a keen eye on a few. Hopefully I’ll have the opportunity to observe some more before being sent back home.
Naomi looks up from Judges 4 and considers how to deal with the show's producer and protect herself. Our host might be waiting for some responses from Mafia, doctor, or may be allowing a victim time to write a death story.
I suspect the Mafia are holding things up. I doubt any single player roles would take that long to decide. Andy penned his own death scene after it had been announced in the thread.
The doctor can't just protect themselves, they have to protect other people as well.
Lamby, I think it's safe to say you're the least likely person to die as the doctor would be mad not to protect the detective.
If the doctor thinks the mafia know who they are or have a good chance of targeting them for other reasons, the doctor should protect themselves about 2/5 of the time. ((Sqrt(2) - 1) to be precise.)
If the mafia don't know who to target, then protecting the detective is a sound strategy.
Dai wakes up in the middle of the night to see a shadowy figure holding a pillow above his face. Or is it two or three shadowy figures?
Dai thinks, well, that was unexpected. My jokes weren't that bad. In fact, I hardly made any.
Just to add that I really want to speculate about why the Mafia targeted me, because it's not what I would have done, and I don't think I'm allowed being dead. Grrr.
Andy Kipper (Wet Kipper)Killed by Mafia
Mr Steve Huang (SirPalomides) Dai Onstage (Dafyd)Killed by Mafia
Nem the cat (not entirely me)
Mario Huana Hirnlos (Noprophet_NOprofit)
Dame Fifi McNulty (Firenze) Patrick Royce (Sipech)Killed by Mafia
Lambie LaCosta (Lamb Chopped) uncontested detective
Ethan Eliab (Eliab) detective declared innocent
Penny Drago (Pendragon) detective declared innocent
Naomi Spinner, Apostle™ (Net Spinster) Karen White (Gwai)Lynched
8 players, with very possibly 3 Mafia in the 5 without a strong claim/clean bill of health from the detective so we really need to find one and lynch them today.
The vigilante may (but is not obliged to) kill one person overnight on the days on which no one is lynched (and those days only). The vigilante is a member of the citizen party and considered to be innocent in investigations. For clarity, the vigilante may take a pop at whoever they like – it doesn’t have to be a player who was nominated for lynching.
Night action: if no one has been lynched, PM me to tell me who, if anyone, they want to attack.
Naomi follows the crowd. "Could it have been the vigilante who killed him? Is everyone else ok?"
I don't understand how this follows.
From the descriptions, unless the Mafia never killed anyone, if the vigilante had acted would we not have 2 dead? Is Naomi asking for a friend or asking about something which tells us something about her.
Mario, the short answer is that we need to get the game moving and people participating to create an environment in which people's words and actions might betray the Mafia members. At this stage, we need to find and lynch a Mafia member or the citizens will loose very soon. (TBH unless it's a down to the wire situation, the citizens generally do better by lynching people than not lynching anyone and letting the Mafia pick them off.) Your disinclination to have anyone voted off is actually starting to give me niggles.
Steve, Nem, Mario, Fifi, and Naomi are the only people who haven't been given a clean bill of health, so in that pool must be the Mafia. (As I think we're all accepting Lambie as the detective, and the results of her investigations.) In the absence of any strong suspicions, I've chosen someone at random from that list to nominate, and it'll be interesting to see if another candidate is put up against them. At this stage I'd say an uncontested nomination is either indicative of potential guilt or dreadful apathy on the part of the other citizens.
The original role descriptors said the roles may be in play, not that they definitely are. If we have a detective, then I'd say we can guarantee a doctor to protect them once they've claimed, but there might not be a vigilante or a veteran. (I would be inclined to say we have one or the other as otherwise the citizens would be bordering on overpowered, and more likely the veteran as if there is a vigilante they are being cautious given they've had 2 opportunities so far but attacked no-one.)
The veteran's defence would end up with 2 bodies:
If the veteran is attacked, they kill their assailant (i.e. they both die). If one more than one mafia agent is in circulation, the assailant is considered to be whoever sent me the PM to order the hit.
Night action: none.
I would dearly love to be more active (see my post record on thread!) but dare not get into the voicing of suspicions etc. or nominating of people, as this has gone badly wrong at least once and possibly twice. I did say off-the=cuff that I thought Dai Onstage's daft remark made me think him innocent (not realizing the Mafia had not yet reported their choice to the Power-That-Is!) and, well, pillow-wielding ninjas showed up moments later...
So I'm shutting up except for voting and peforming my sherlocky functions. But I am watching with great interest, oh yes.
Naomi states, "I know I'm not mafia but there is no reason for any of you to believe that. So what characteristics do we look for? Is it someone who is too quiet or perhaps been away (might explain the length of last night if the mafia didn't reveal who they hit until late though it could also be one of the other actors being slow in responding)?"
If you have usable voting patterns (and I don't think ours are) things like always voting for lynching the innocent, jumping in at the last minute to add the final votes unopposed. The quiet ones are a bit suspicious as they may have been trying to fly under the radar. Sometimes just the way they act in discussions generates niggles.
Ethan squints through bloodshot eyes at the be-drooled polythene wrap in his hand and tries to focus beyond it to avoid stepping in any of the strings of vomit that reach out at odd angles over the clearing's floor. Whatever had been in that tab, it certainly hadn't been what he'd paid for. But the bad guys had apparently struck again in the night, and he was still here. Feeling like death had never felt so good.
It sucks about Dai. I'm surprised, too, 'cos I was suspicious of him, and it's odd that the bad guys didn't leave us to argue. But I guess they thought he'd be hard to vote out, and if they wanted rid of him, they'd have to do it themselves.
I think we might be OK, though. Let's look at where we are:
Lambie, we trust. Penny and I are cleared by her. What about the rest?
Maz, I still don't trust exactly, but it can't be avoided that when I nominated him, the bad guys didn't exactly panic, because they didn't put up anyone else. Naomi and Fifi both voted to save him, and Nem and Steve didn't vote. Mind you, with Dai having made a credible case not to lynch and Lambie going for it, I'm not sure that tells us much. If he was (and is) innocent, a bad guy might not have wanted to stick his or her neck out to pot him, and if he was (and is) guilty, it was easy for them to be inconspicuous.
I don't think we've got the will to vote Maz out now after not doing it yesterday, so let's talk about the rest.
Penny thinks Steve. I don't. He's not paying enough attention. He doesn't look at who's been nominated, or who's voted, or anything much. That could be a ploy, but it don't look to me like a guilty ploy. I wish we had time to vote out the quiet Steves on this island, to get everyone else to talk, but I don't think we do.
Naomi and Nem were the only pair to signal "Mason" about each other. But I'm not sure they meant to, what with Naomi's code being about first initial letter, and them both having N-names. I wouldn't trust a Masonic role-claim at this point, but I'm also not keen on taking too many risks in case there are Masons, after all. Naomi's been the more active of the two, and she hinted at wanting to nominate Steve, but didn't. She could have tried to be more helpful than she has been.
I think the smart play might be to vote Naomi out. If she is a Mason, we probably get a free clearance, cold-fucking-blooded as that may sound. And I can't see a better bet for guilty.
Fifi'd be my second choice, if Naomi gives me reason to re-think.
And, look, I'm sorry I wasted most of the morning, on the shitter, and with the vom, and all, so I know we need to get on. I'll nominate in a few hours if no one changes my mind for me.
Feel free to nominate away. I was more or less picking at random in a (rather futile) attempt to get people talking. Having a couple of options to vote for would be a good idea if it actually stimulates debate.
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Now she seems to be in another dream - one of those where you are on stage in a play you don't recognise and you don't know the lines.
But one must never break the scene.
No lynching she mumbles, and hopes for the best.
If my analysis is right then my prime suspects are, Penny, Fifi, and nem the cat. Not that I'm 100% confident. Actually I'm probably wrong. I just think I'm less probably wrong than with any other trio.
We can’t win, ultimately, unless we’re willing to vote people out. So I would have tentatively, and with many misgivings, voted Mario.
No lynching. Night falls.
Sorry, I’ve had an odd cat nap here and there and kept a keen eye on a few. Hopefully I’ll have the opportunity to observe some more before being sent back home.
The doctor can't just protect themselves, they have to protect other people as well.
If the mafia don't know who to target, then protecting the detective is a sound strategy.
My nerves are in tatters. I don't know how much more of this I can take. Wasn't Dai Onstage one of your favorite contestants?
Dai Onstage has been killed. He was an unreadable citizen.
Dai thinks, well, that was unexpected. My jokes weren't that bad. In fact, I hardly made any.
8 players, with very possibly 3 Mafia in the 5 without a strong claim/clean bill of health from the detective so we really need to find one and lynch them today.
Ip dip sky blue the one I nominate is Steve Huang
Then this comment:
I don't understand how this follows.
From the descriptions, unless the Mafia never killed anyone, if the vigilante had acted would we not have 2 dead? Is Naomi asking for a friend or asking about something which tells us something about her.
Why?
Steve, Nem, Mario, Fifi, and Naomi are the only people who haven't been given a clean bill of health, so in that pool must be the Mafia. (As I think we're all accepting Lambie as the detective, and the results of her investigations.) In the absence of any strong suspicions, I've chosen someone at random from that list to nominate, and it'll be interesting to see if another candidate is put up against them. At this stage I'd say an uncontested nomination is either indicative of potential guilt or dreadful apathy on the part of the other citizens.
The original role descriptors said the roles may be in play, not that they definitely are. If we have a detective, then I'd say we can guarantee a doctor to protect them once they've claimed, but there might not be a vigilante or a veteran. (I would be inclined to say we have one or the other as otherwise the citizens would be bordering on overpowered, and more likely the veteran as if there is a vigilante they are being cautious given they've had 2 opportunities so far but attacked no-one.)
The veteran's defence would end up with 2 bodies:
So I'm shutting up except for voting and peforming my sherlocky functions. But I am watching with great interest, oh yes.
It sucks about Dai. I'm surprised, too, 'cos I was suspicious of him, and it's odd that the bad guys didn't leave us to argue. But I guess they thought he'd be hard to vote out, and if they wanted rid of him, they'd have to do it themselves.
I think we might be OK, though. Let's look at where we are:
Lambie, we trust. Penny and I are cleared by her. What about the rest?
Maz, I still don't trust exactly, but it can't be avoided that when I nominated him, the bad guys didn't exactly panic, because they didn't put up anyone else. Naomi and Fifi both voted to save him, and Nem and Steve didn't vote. Mind you, with Dai having made a credible case not to lynch and Lambie going for it, I'm not sure that tells us much. If he was (and is) innocent, a bad guy might not have wanted to stick his or her neck out to pot him, and if he was (and is) guilty, it was easy for them to be inconspicuous.
I don't think we've got the will to vote Maz out now after not doing it yesterday, so let's talk about the rest.
Penny thinks Steve. I don't. He's not paying enough attention. He doesn't look at who's been nominated, or who's voted, or anything much. That could be a ploy, but it don't look to me like a guilty ploy. I wish we had time to vote out the quiet Steves on this island, to get everyone else to talk, but I don't think we do.
Naomi and Nem were the only pair to signal "Mason" about each other. But I'm not sure they meant to, what with Naomi's code being about first initial letter, and them both having N-names. I wouldn't trust a Masonic role-claim at this point, but I'm also not keen on taking too many risks in case there are Masons, after all. Naomi's been the more active of the two, and she hinted at wanting to nominate Steve, but didn't. She could have tried to be more helpful than she has been.
I think the smart play might be to vote Naomi out. If she is a Mason, we probably get a free clearance, cold-fucking-blooded as that may sound. And I can't see a better bet for guilty.
Fifi'd be my second choice, if Naomi gives me reason to re-think.
And, look, I'm sorry I wasted most of the morning, on the shitter, and with the vom, and all, so I know we need to get on. I'll nominate in a few hours if no one changes my mind for me.
I'm going to go and lie down for a bit. 'Cuse me.