I know why it happens. I also have a pretty good idea about what sucks about the US. I just don't think it's too much to ask that shipmates think for a moment about the individual Americans who are reading these attacks on the country as a whole and remember that we are real people.
I also don't think it's too much to ask that the powers that be -- including you, @Doublethink -- acknowledge that calling these "pond wars" fails to recognize what's happening. Americans are not firing back. We aren't shitting on other places. When people like @Foaming Draught condemn the entirety of the US, we don't come back with attacks on other countries. We protest and we defend ourselves, we attack the individuals who say these things, but we don't respond in kind. It's all very one-sided, and the way the H&As handle this makes me furious.
When I am not having to sort out and file accounts and a corporate tax return for this site in the next ten days, and not having to suddenly take leave a dash up country to support my elderly father with dealing with my dying mother, and deal with a workload so impossible even my managers are starting to notice it is unsustainable, in a series of periodic heatwaves neither my house nor my body is able to cope with properly I will endeavour to give the the issue of anti-Americanism on the forums the attention it deserves.
I know why it happens. I also have a pretty good idea about what sucks about the US. I just don't think it's too much to ask that shipmates think for a moment about the individual Americans who are reading these attacks on the country as a whole and remember that we are real people.
I also don't think it's too much to ask that the powers that be -- including you, @Doublethink -- acknowledge that calling these "pond wars" fails to recognize what's happening. Americans are not firing back. We aren't shitting on other places. When people like @Foaming Draught condemn the entirety of the US, we don't come back with attacks on other countries. We protest and we defend ourselves, we attack the individuals who say these things, but we don't respond in kind. It's all very one-sided, and the way the H&As handle this makes me furious.
When I am not having to sort out and file accounts and a corporate tax return for this site in the next ten days, and not having to suddenly take leave a dash up country to support my elderly father with dealing with my dying mother, and deal with a workload so impossible even my managers are starting to notice it is unsustainable, in a series of periodic heatwaves neither my house nor my body is able to cope with properly I will endeavour to give the the issue of anti-Americanism on the forums the attention it deserves.
If I want to discuss this comment, do I have to do so in Styx?
@Doublethink, I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I hope that goes as well as can be expected in such situations. Obviously there is no pressing reason to address an issue of minuscule importance by comparison to what you've got going on right now.
@Ruth sorry, didn’t mean to dump on you - just not having a great week and I shouldn’t have lashed out at you.
You're having a very trying time and I'm not the least bit hurt. Really do wish the best for you and your parents in the upcoming days and weeks. And may your managers get a clue.
Did I say there was anything wrong with it? I think it's great that men can wear pink now. It was just surprising, when the last time I paid any attention to football they were all wearing black or white boots.
Yes, @Ruth, I was just about to comment that @Foaming Draught, while perfectly capable of being a lovely bloke, was determinedly exercising his condescending skills on Australian fans of round-ball football, as well as the US population.
One of my favourite sporting moments is John Aloisi charging around waving his shirt in the air after Australia won the final qualifying match for the 2006 World Cup in Sydney in 2005. Just absolute joy.
I just saw a headline on The Atlantic's YouTube channel to the effect that much of the media hype around the supposed foreigner-USA love-in at the World Cup must somehow be fake.
I didn't read the actual article, and haven't been able to find it again. For now, I'll say I tend to regard The Atlantic as the sorta soft-left opposition that imagines the entire world hates Trump as much as they do, and so finds it suspicious if tourists to American cities are easily cajoled into happily bantering about the food rather than condemning the administration(*).
That said, given the noted tendency of Trump to garner praise just for not screwing up as badly as originally predicted, I'll say I am worried about his potential ability to turn a smooth-running World Cup into a perceived victory for him.
(*) In fairness, this kind of narcissistic assumption of shared outrage is not confined to The Atlantic or even the soft left. When Justin Trudeau did a tour overseas to promote Canada for a seat on the UN Security Council, hard-left Canadian activists sent info about Trudeau's own failings on internal human-rights to some of the global-south governments who had a vote on the matter, in the hopes it would turn those nations against Canada's bid. I thought it was a bit comically presumptuous to think that anyone otherwise regarding a Canadian seat to be in their interests would change their mind just from getting unsolicited reports about Canada-only issues having no impact on the outside world, and which the targeted governments were likely previously unaware of.
I still find it amazing that people from the UK feel free to slag off the US as a whole, becasue their political leaders are appaling.
Have you seen our recently resigned PM? Who has been the best for some 16 years? Have you seen the loudest voice in political discussion? Fascist shit who cannot win a by-election or admit that he is a loser?
No country is defined by its loudest voices.
The US is an amazing place. We were there a couple of years ago, and it is fantastic, the people are lovely, and there is no need to "make it great again" - it is great.
The whole subject of the world cup, which bores me, and with FIFA, who are corrupt to the heart, and the rise of populism - these are not US problems. They arise - mostly - in Europe. Some people (me) need to look at our history and realise that our "Moral high ground" is built on skulls.
A bar in Boston called The Dubliner is closed today to give the staff a day off after all the work they put in while the Scots were in town. Their post says, "Thankfully nothing is happening in Boston today so we will be back tomorrow."
England is playing right this minute. In Boston. 😁
A bar in Boston called The Dubliner is closed today to give the staff a day off after all the work they put in while the Scots were in town. Their post says, "Thankfully nothing is happening in Boston today so we will be back tomorrow."
England is playing right this minute. In Boston. 😁
With IngGurLund fans in town, I’d close my bar, especially if my staff have been rushed off their feet all week.
Being held in the USA is reason enough to stay home (wherever that is, can't be worse), plus there are two, four, or seven (depending on your favoured football code, soccer not being regarded as football in Australia) too few players. I have no sympathy for them, silly asses should never have set foot in the accursèd hole.
To be fair, when there was news about Scots being sent away or having their visas cancelled it got negative for a while. (I'm speaking from the Scottish perspective because that's where I live and work.) But the Boston experience was so overwhelmingly great it gave the event, here, a huge boost, and created a lot of goodwill and positivity. I think that's a win for the ordinary people of the US and the UK? I hope it continues, even if Scotland's time in the World Cup doesn't! I think it's enough that the Scots managed to introduce the traffic cone as an item of wearing apparel to our American hosts.
Personally, I have opportunities to greet many US visitors during the tourist season who come to our town, and they're almost always delightful to chat with. As you can imagine, we don't talk politics - unless our visitors bring it up themselves, which rarely happens!
In the past the FIFA president has presented the World Cup, but King Juan Carlos of Spain and Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom presented it in 1982 and 1966 respectively.
What's with the international travelers here drinking our taverns dry? On top of that, they are now absconding with our Ranch Dressing. Please don't chug it at the airport. It is really not that great. Will likely give you the runs mid-flight. They will have mailers at the airports so you can mail the concoction home
Most of us aren't soccer fans and don't give a shit.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
I'm not a football fan at all and read my book when Mr Boogs is watching world cup matches.
But I dare not root for Mexico if England end up playing them in Mexico City in the next round!
The only time I dislike sitting with him when football is on is when one of his teams are playing. (Rochdale, Liverpool, England) He gets so het up it's unbelievable. This is the quietest most introvert man I know.
I am a football supporter, but I follow Rugby Union more nowadays. I’m enjoying the World Cup far more than I expected.
One of our closest friends however is not a football supporter. He is a Liverpool supporter. He follows Liverpool Football Club and that is about it. He’s really not bothered about England, just so long as Liverpool players don’t get injured playing for England (or any other national team).
25 years ago (just checked) Mrs Sioni hosted dinner for said close friends and the television was visible from the dining table. Liverpool were playing in a European football final which went to extra time. The action was fast and furious, Liverpool won 5-4 and said close friend was reprimanded by his wife for waking our younger children. Eldest of these children had crept downstairs to ask us to be quiet.
Did I say there was anything wrong with it? I think it's great that men can wear pink now. It was just surprising, when the last time I paid any attention to football they were all wearing black or white boots.
I remember when we first got colour TV in the UK the late TV journalist Bernard Levin got the ball rolling (and caused some criticism) by wearing a pink DJ on a talk show.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
Good choice. The more they play at Azteka stadium at 7,000 feet above sea level, the better for them. And any version of “up yours Trump” in any language is fine by me.
German fans are probably pretty gutted. The old joke about the World Cup was “lots of excitement and uncertainty- and then the Germans win”.
It looks to me that Thomas Tuchel has simply said that “we will have to change the way we play” and all will be well”.
England’s rugby team will play South Africa shortly and have made no secret that while they haven’t set up a training camp to prepare to play at 5,800’ they will prepare in the gym for this using masks that pass less air to the body. I hope England’s football team is doing this although I would prefer that England had moved to a higher altitude training camp ahead of the Mexico game. Unless they want an excuse for going home 😡😡😡
Most of us aren't soccer fans and don't give a shit.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
Many of the Americans I follow on YouTube are realising how big football is in the rest of the world.
The US also have a cricket team. I wonder finally take off as well
Most of us aren't soccer fans and don't give a shit.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
Many of the Americans I follow on YouTube are realising how big football is in the rest of the world.
You need to broaden your sample size. Most Americans are quite aware how big soccer is in the rest of the world, and have been for a long, long time.
Most of us aren't soccer fans and don't give a shit.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
Many of the Americans I follow on YouTube are realising how big football is in the rest of the world.
You need to broaden your sample size. Most Americans are quite aware how big soccer is in the rest of the world, and have been for a long, long time.
My partner's parents were Croatian immigrants, and though he is first and foremost a baseball fan (as God intended Americans to be) he understands soccer pretty well from watching his son and grandsons play. So I bought him a Croatian fan shirt, and this afternoon we are going to the local bar on the beach that's run by a Croatian immigrant to watch Croatia hopefully beat the crap out of England. Or rather, my partner will watch while I suck down spritzes and give thanks that the city for once did the right thing and put a bar right on the sand.
Edited to add: this will be the first time in my entire life I have watched soccer on purpose. Thoughts and prayers happily accepted. Though the alcohol is what I'm counting on making it all go down well.
Edited to add: this will be the first time in my entire life I have watched soccer on purpose. Thoughts and prayers happily accepted. Though the alcohol is what I'm counting on making it all go down well.
Enjoy (and don't wear anything that can't survive accidentally being drenched in beer by an exuberant fan!)
I do feel obliged to point out that the team that you will be hoping Croatia beats the crap out of is Portugal, though.
Most of us aren't soccer fans and don't give a shit.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
Many of the Americans I follow on YouTube are realising how big football is in the rest of the world.
You need to broaden your sample size. Most Americans are quite aware how big soccer is in the rest of the world, and have been for a long, long time.
If nothing else, the USA was the sole host in 1994, so a lot of Americans likely would have picked up on the game's popularity then. Prob'ly didn't lead to any long-lasting changes in taste, though.
Edited to add: this will be the first time in my entire life I have watched soccer on purpose. Thoughts and prayers happily accepted. Though the alcohol is what I'm counting on making it all go down well.
Enjoy (and don't wear anything that can't survive accidentally being drenched in beer by an exuberant fan!)
I do feel obliged to point out that the team that you will be hoping Croatia beats the crap out of is Portugal, though.
Oh. Thanks! I'd have looked like an idiot screaming "Get those limey bastards!"
In the 13th minute of 10 minutes added time, Croatia put the ball in Portugal’s net. It was then disallowed, but the commentators couldn’t see why!
My opinion is that the officials were so embarrassed at play continuing so long, that they ruled the goal out.
Bye, bye Luka Modric
Welcome back Cristiano Ronaldo.
My partner, admittedly biased, said FIFA just wanted to keep Ronaldo in the tournament.
It was fun in the way that a bunch of people gathered to watch something and drink and cheer is typically fun, but this match did not make me want to be a soccer fan. Sample size of one, but based just on that one it seems like a badly designed game.
It's just dull, unless you understand the rules well enough to follow what's happening. Not as bad as cricket, though that's a low bar. Now, rugby or Australian football is fun to watch: even if you don't understand the rules you can enjoy the violence.
Soccer (I’ll use the US term to be clear, is a very simple game. Just about anyone can play but it takes a lot of skill, speed and stamina to play it well. To some extent you can play without officials.
That certainly isn’t possible in American football or Rugby. I don’t know about Aussie Rules and Gaelic football.
Soccer’s main problem amongst the non-aficionados is that goals are so rare..
Soccer (I’ll use the US term to be clear, is a very simple game. Just about anyone can play but it takes a lot of skill, speed and stamina to play it well. To some extent you can play without officials.
That certainly isn’t possible in American football or Rugby. I don’t know about Aussie Rules and Gaelic football.
Soccer’s main problem amongst the non-aficionados is that goals are so rare..
As we know I don’t like football but I do disagree with your last point. Any excitement lies in the build up to a goal. The potential of a goal gives tension.
There's no build-up to a goal if you have no idea what they're doing. All of a sudden someone kicks the ball into the net, and I wonder why they don't at least try more frequently.
There's no build-up to a goal if you have no idea what they're doing. All of a sudden someone kicks the ball into the net, and I wonder why they don't at least try more frequently.
Soccer has a spontaniety that is unlike most other sports. The interval between stoppages is far longer than in other football games. Kicking the ball into the goal is the last act but the running, with and without the ball and the passing are everything. I’m sure one has to play it, or something very like it, to appreciate it.
It’s why I can’t get into (Ice) Hockey, but again the violence is entertaining.
I find watching football abit like watching F1 very boring and samey, but if you start watching you feel obliged to watch just a bit more to see the outcome - like reading a boring whodunnit but you still need to know the murderer.
Football does give the odd memorable moment though. I was at a pool match in the Gun at Newbury - I might even have been between shots - when I spotted this (nut) cracker out of the corner of my eye:
I should probably also mention that @Celtic Knotweed (tagged so she can have the rare experience of appearing in a football thread) and I were in Reykjavik in 2016 when Iceland played England in the Euros, so we went downtown to find the party.
She is congenitally allergic to supportimg England and I really don't give a flying one about football but we figured it would be worth it for the atmosphere. And oh my, it was! In view of our loyalties we decided "When in Rome...", and chanted "Afram Island'" and clap-clap-HUH-ed with the rest of the crowd.
It was febrile. It was like a bearpit. It was bloody good fun!
After the match between the United States and Belgium all three host nations have failed to reach the quarter finals.
Am I a fuddy-duddy or should hosts be a serious football nation?
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Meant to write "...weren't even written by an Irishman..." (They were written by an Englishman.)
When I am not having to sort out and file accounts and a corporate tax return for this site in the next ten days, and not having to suddenly take leave a dash up country to support my elderly father with dealing with my dying mother, and deal with a workload so impossible even my managers are starting to notice it is unsustainable, in a series of periodic heatwaves neither my house nor my body is able to cope with properly I will endeavour to give the the issue of anti-Americanism on the forums the attention it deserves.
If I want to discuss this comment, do I have to do so in Styx?
You're having a very trying time and I'm not the least bit hurt. Really do wish the best for you and your parents in the upcoming days and weeks. And may your managers get a clue.
Don’t forget tan shoes with pink shoelaces! 🎶
Ditto. That was uncalled for.
One of my favourite sporting moments is John Aloisi charging around waving his shirt in the air after Australia won the final qualifying match for the 2006 World Cup in Sydney in 2005. Just absolute joy.
I didn't read the actual article, and haven't been able to find it again. For now, I'll say I tend to regard The Atlantic as the sorta soft-left opposition that imagines the entire world hates Trump as much as they do, and so finds it suspicious if tourists to American cities are easily cajoled into happily bantering about the food rather than condemning the administration(*).
That said, given the noted tendency of Trump to garner praise just for not screwing up as badly as originally predicted, I'll say I am worried about his potential ability to turn a smooth-running World Cup into a perceived victory for him.
(*) In fairness, this kind of narcissistic assumption of shared outrage is not confined to The Atlantic or even the soft left. When Justin Trudeau did a tour overseas to promote Canada for a seat on the UN Security Council, hard-left Canadian activists sent info about Trudeau's own failings on internal human-rights to some of the global-south governments who had a vote on the matter, in the hopes it would turn those nations against Canada's bid. I thought it was a bit comically presumptuous to think that anyone otherwise regarding a Canadian seat to be in their interests would change their mind just from getting unsolicited reports about Canada-only issues having no impact on the outside world, and which the targeted governments were likely previously unaware of.
Have you seen our recently resigned PM? Who has been the best for some 16 years? Have you seen the loudest voice in political discussion? Fascist shit who cannot win a by-election or admit that he is a loser?
No country is defined by its loudest voices.
The US is an amazing place. We were there a couple of years ago, and it is fantastic, the people are lovely, and there is no need to "make it great again" - it is great.
The whole subject of the world cup, which bores me, and with FIFA, who are corrupt to the heart, and the rise of populism - these are not US problems. They arise - mostly - in Europe. Some people (me) need to look at our history and realise that our "Moral high ground" is built on skulls.
England is playing right this minute. In Boston. 😁
With IngGurLund fans in town, I’d close my bar, especially if my staff have been rushed off their feet all week.
To be fair, when there was news about Scots being sent away or having their visas cancelled it got negative for a while. (I'm speaking from the Scottish perspective because that's where I live and work.) But the Boston experience was so overwhelmingly great it gave the event, here, a huge boost, and created a lot of goodwill and positivity. I think that's a win for the ordinary people of the US and the UK? I hope it continues, even if Scotland's time in the World Cup doesn't! I think it's enough that the Scots managed to introduce the traffic cone as an item of wearing apparel to our American hosts.
Personally, I have opportunities to greet many US visitors during the tourist season who come to our town, and they're almost always delightful to chat with. As you can imagine, we don't talk politics - unless our visitors bring it up themselves, which rarely happens!
Oh how I wish Iran will win the World Cup.
Soccer has a ways to go before it rivals American football, basketball, baseball or even hockey.
However, in the interests of honesty and full disclosure -- I went for a walk this afternoon down the main drag of my neighborhood, which has several popular sports bars. An hour and a half before the Mexico-Ecuador game was scheduled to begin, around 4:30 on a Tuesday afternoon, the street was hopping and the sports bars were already full, except for the most popular one, where there was a long line because they let you in just for the one match, and then they make you leave so the next group can come in. So many green Mexico jerseys!
So I'm watching the game and enjoying it. I do think it would be more fun if they scored a bit more often, but accepting that it's more like hockey than basketball, I'm starting to see why people like it.
I've decided to root for Mexico, because Trump is supposed to be there when they award the winner, and it would be great if he had to hand the trophy or cup or whatever over to Mexico because they did indeed send their best.
I'm not a football fan at all and read my book when Mr Boogs is watching world cup matches.
But I dare not root for Mexico if England end up playing them in Mexico City in the next round!
The only time I dislike sitting with him when football is on is when one of his teams are playing. (Rochdale, Liverpool, England) He gets so het up it's unbelievable. This is the quietest most introvert man I know.
One of our closest friends however is not a football supporter. He is a Liverpool supporter. He follows Liverpool Football Club and that is about it. He’s really not bothered about England, just so long as Liverpool players don’t get injured playing for England (or any other national team).
25 years ago (just checked) Mrs Sioni hosted dinner for said close friends and the television was visible from the dining table. Liverpool were playing in a European football final which went to extra time. The action was fast and furious, Liverpool won 5-4 and said close friend was reprimanded by his wife for waking our younger children. Eldest of these children had crept downstairs to ask us to be quiet.
I remember when we first got colour TV in the UK the late TV journalist Bernard Levin got the ball rolling (and caused some criticism) by wearing a pink DJ on a talk show.
Good choice. The more they play at Azteka stadium at 7,000 feet above sea level, the better for them. And any version of “up yours Trump” in any language is fine by me.
German fans are probably pretty gutted. The old joke about the World Cup was “lots of excitement and uncertainty- and then the Germans win”.
But not any more.
(I know, probably wrong thread)
England’s rugby team will play South Africa shortly and have made no secret that while they haven’t set up a training camp to prepare to play at 5,800’ they will prepare in the gym for this using masks that pass less air to the body. I hope England’s football team is doing this although I would prefer that England had moved to a higher altitude training camp ahead of the Mexico game. Unless they want an excuse for going home 😡😡😡
Many of the Americans I follow on YouTube are realising how big football is in the rest of the world.
The US also have a cricket team. I wonder finally take off as well
Maybe I do.
Edited to add: this will be the first time in my entire life I have watched soccer on purpose. Thoughts and prayers happily accepted. Though the alcohol is what I'm counting on making it all go down well.
Enjoy (and don't wear anything that can't survive accidentally being drenched in beer by an exuberant fan!)
I do feel obliged to point out that the team that you will be hoping Croatia beats the crap out of is Portugal, though.
If nothing else, the USA was the sole host in 1994, so a lot of Americans likely would have picked up on the game's popularity then. Prob'ly didn't lead to any long-lasting changes in taste, though.
It'll be live at 4 pm here.
Oh. Thanks! I'd have looked like an idiot screaming "Get those limey bastards!"
And rightly so.
My opinion is that the officials were so embarrassed at play continuing so long, that they ruled the goal out.
Bye, bye Luka Modric
Welcome back Cristiano Ronaldo.
It was fun in the way that a bunch of people gathered to watch something and drink and cheer is typically fun, but this match did not make me want to be a soccer fan. Sample size of one, but based just on that one it seems like a badly designed game.
That certainly isn’t possible in American football or Rugby. I don’t know about Aussie Rules and Gaelic football.
Soccer’s main problem amongst the non-aficionados is that goals are so rare..
Soccer has a spontaniety that is unlike most other sports. The interval between stoppages is far longer than in other football games. Kicking the ball into the goal is the last act but the running, with and without the ball and the passing are everything. I’m sure one has to play it, or something very like it, to appreciate it.
It’s why I can’t get into (Ice) Hockey, but again the violence is entertaining.
https://youtu.be/1AkSVbnANyg?is=t1yZJNWEJlTxjC4u
She is congenitally allergic to supportimg England and I really don't give a flying one about football but we figured it would be worth it for the atmosphere. And oh my, it was! In view of our loyalties we decided "When in Rome...", and chanted "Afram Island'" and clap-clap-HUH-ed with the rest of the crowd.
It was febrile. It was like a bearpit. It was bloody good fun!
We're in here somewhere: https://youtu.be/J4uoCgjRNCs?is=4E8xpke59eZfOhbV
Am I a fuddy-duddy or should hosts be a serious football nation?