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• stetson Shipmate

  October 2 edited October 2

  I did an Economist article about Myers-Briggs for an ESL free-talking class a few years back. IIRC, the article made it out to be that the mother-daughter team who invented it were of rather unimpressive credentials, and that the test was basically a glorified parlour game.
  
  Not sure if I've ever taken it myself, but possibly. I do remember taking something called the Watson Diagnostic Test in junior high, mid-1980s. Maybe that was more related to academic abilities than personality, but I really can't remember.
• stetson Shipmate

  October 2

  Hmm. "Watson Diagnostic Test" as the name of a psychological test doesn't even seem to warrant a wiki page. I'm wondering if it was an inconsequential fad that's now been totally forgotten , or maybe I'm misremembering the name.
• Arethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host

  October 2

  stetson wrote: »

  I did an Economist article about Myers-Briggs for an ESL free-talking class a few years back. IIRC, the article made it out to be that the mother-daughter team who invented it were of rather unimpressive credentials, and that the test was basically a glorified parlour game.

  
  I was going to say "astrology for middle managers" but... yeah.
• Spike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus

  October 2

  I remember Myers-Briggs tests from about 25 years ago. I didn’t realise it was still a thing
• Dafyd Hell Host

  October 2

  I gather the astrology for middle managers use is rather opposed to it's original intention; the original intention being to say other people aren't doing things wrong, just differently. Whereas the astrology for middle managers use does assume that there is a right way to do any particular job and you need to get people who will do it right. In other words it's taken a picture that was supposed to encourage diversity and turned it into a tool to create uniformity.
  
  I don't think it mattered quite as much for the original intention that there wasn't much scientific basis to it (it has some overlap with the Big Five model for which there is I believe some scientific basis).
• Pomona Shipmate

  October 2

  Jungian pseudoscience. Pass.
• Puzzler Shipmate

  October 2

  We did this in my school( workplace) over 20 years ago. I have the chance to do it again this month. I’ll be interested to see if I get the same results.
• Spike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus

  October 2

  Puzzler wrote: »

  We did this in my school( workplace) over 20 years ago. I have the chance to do it again this month. I’ll be interested to see if I get the same results.

  
  I’ve done it twice in the same week and got different results
• Nick Tamen Shipmate

  October 2

  Back when we got married, it was standard to do Myers-Briggs as part of pre-marital counseling, and I think it’s fine if kept in perspective—as @Dafyd says, simply understanding that there are different ways of doing and approaching things, with no one way being the “right” way, and perhaps giving some understanding in to how a partner or the like might approach things differently. I’d say Ms. Tamen and I found it useful in that way.
  
  But it’s meant to be information to be used to the extent it’s useful, not a diagnosis.
  
  
  
• MaxNRH Shipmate Posts: 9

  October 2

  Some even combined it with the Enneagram ….I take it both just as a guideline, nothing Concrete.
• stetson Shipmate

  October 2 edited October 2

  Does this really need to be in Epiphanies? Even for people who have endured hardship due to mental health issues, I would doubt that in most cases Myers-Briggs played any significant role one way or another in their struggles.
• The_Riv Shipmate

  October 2

  I was part of a parish-wide Meyers-Briggs assessment 20-25 years ago. Like @Nick Tamen shared, it was an attempt to give insights into some of the whys and wherefores re: one's fellow parishioners. It was fun, I remember, but one detail at the end struck me a bit weird, which was when one of the presenters declared that analysis of Jesus in the Gospels rendered him a perfect balance between each of the four regions: I-E, N-S, T-F, P-J.
  
  Okay, I guess.
• Graven Image Shipmate

  October 2

  INFJ the two times I took it, 20 years apart. I felt it was close to who I am, but I knew that without the test.
• Cathscats Shipmate

  October 2

  When I was in a US seminary 30+ years ago we all had to take it. It’s cultural biases were shown up by all of us overseas students, from various parts of the globe, getting the same profile. But I had to do it more than once when in the States - at that time it seemed to be used for all kinds of things.
• Louise Epiphanies Host

  October 2

  We've already asked for it to be moved but we're waiting for an admin decision as to what board it should go on and then for an admin to move it - thanks.
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• stetson Shipmate

  12:31AM edited 12:34AM

  The_Riv wrote: »

  ...one detail at the end struck me a bit weird, which was when one of the presenters declared that analysis of Jesus in the Gospels rendered him a perfect balance between each of the four regions: I-E, N-S, T-F, P-J.
  
  Okay, I guess.

  
  It is an article of folk and quasi-civic nationalism in the Republic of Korea(not sure about the DPRK, but I'd wager so) that in supposed contrast to other places, Korea "has four seasons". I've never been clear about how seasons are precisely defined for chestnutting purposes there, but my assumption is that the overall claim is a mysticization of Korea's actual climate indeed being a little more balanced than, say, Siberia on one side and Okinawa on the other.
• MaxNRH Shipmate Posts: 9

  2:14AM

  Graven Image wrote: »

  INFJ the two times I took it, 20 years apart. I felt it was close to who I am, but I knew that without the test.

  
  Generally, infj are generally known to be counselors type, “ old soul”, able to soak in other feelings..
• stetson Shipmate

  4:11AM

  ...one detail at the end struck me a bit weird, which was when one of the presenters declared that analysis of Jesus in the Gospels rendered him a perfect balance between each of the four regions: I-E, N-S, T-F, P-J.

  
  

  It is an article of folk and quasi-civic nationalism in the Republic of Korea(not sure about the DPRK, but I'd wager so) that in supposed contrast to other places, Korea "has four seasons". I've never been clear about how seasons are precisely defined for chestnutting purposes there, but my assumption is that the overall claim is a mysticization of Korea's actual climate indeed being a little more balanced than, say, Siberia on one side and Okinawa on the other.

  
  Not sure if I was thinking about precisely this at the time I made that post, but it now occurs to me that a jungian would see significance in the specific number four as the overarching division/unity thingambob in both Jesus and Korea.
  
  Though I was taught in high-school that Jung saw 3 as the especially important number, which would line up better with Jesus in relation to the Trinity.
• KarlLB Shipmate

  6:53AM

  I would channel Ken of blessed memory but he was a good Evangelical so wouldn't approve of my doing so.
  
  MBTI always reminds me of those teenage magazine quizzes - "Do you enjoy parties and dancing to loud music? If Yes, then you're the sort of person who likes parties and dancing to loud music!"
• pease Tech Admin

  7:53AM

  One aspect of MBTI that is relevant to Epiphanies is that it was developed by two women to help women entering the workplace during the Second World War (wikipedia):
  

  Briggs and Myers began creating their indicator during World War II (1939–1945) in the belief that a knowledge of personality preferences would help women entering the industrial workforce for the first time to identify the sorts of war-time jobs that would be the "most comfortable and effective" for them. The Briggs Myers Type Indicator Handbook, published in 1944, was re-published as "Myers–Briggs Type Indicator" in 1956.