Comments

• Sojourner Shipmate

  6:48AM

  With due respect this not primarily a debate about the merits ( or not) of capital punishment but an opportunity to vent about “ cruel and unusual” punishment in particular when the executioners stuff up the proceedings.
  
  Just by the by the last execution in Oz was close to 60 years ago and went ahead at the express order of the then premier of the state of Victoria despite huge public objection and appeals for clemency.
  
  It appears that for the vast majority of posters that there is no debate.
• Stercus Tauri Shipmate

  11:59AM

  I began the thread in Hell because it seemed to me that everyone involved in the history of the attempted judicial killing must have experienced, or in some cases, created, a sense of hell that resonated with anyone who read about it.
• Dafyd Hell Host

  1:29PM

  Hell is capacious. Unless a thread is egregiously fluffy, or needs to be in Epiphanies, we let it stay. If you want to discuss something outwith Hell one start a new thread.
• Bishops Finger Shipmate

  3:23PM

  What @Sojourner said.
  
  Hell at least gives people the chance to use expletives - and this ghastly story deserves them.
• ChastMastr Shipmate

  4:48PM

  Dafyd wrote: »

  Hell is capacious. Unless a thread is egregiously fluffy, or needs to be in Epiphanies, we let it stay. If you want to discuss something outwith Hell one start a new thread.

  
  Wait, why would a Hell thread need to go to Epiphanies? I mean, it’s Hell.
• ChastMastr Shipmate

  4:50PM

  @Sojourner said
  

  It appears that for the vast majority of posters that there is no debate.

  
  I would assume that anyone who wanted to debate a position other than “execution for capital crimes is always morally wrong” would see that the thread is in Hell and that, if they were to express that position, they could be instantly personally attacked for holding it or saying so.
• Nick Tamen Shipmate

  5:13PM

  ChastMastr wrote: »

  Dafyd wrote: »

  Hell is capacious. Unless a thread is egregiously fluffy, or needs to be in Epiphanies, we let it stay. If you want to discuss something outwith Hell one start a new thread.

  Wait, why would a Hell thread need to go to Epiphanies? I mean, it’s Hell.

  It’s not that a Hell thread as such would need to go in Epiphanies. It’s that a thread about “issues where people are personally invested, where academic detachment just isn’t possible, and where issues and identity significantly overlap” should be in Epiphanies, not Hell.
  
  

  ChastMastr wrote: »

  I would assume that anyone who wanted to debate a position other than “execution for capital crimes is always morally wrong” would see that the thread is in Hell and that, if they were to express that position, they could be instantly personally attacked for holding it or saying so.

  And I would assume that anyone wanting to debate any position on capital punishment would start an appropriate thread for that purpose in Purgatory, knowing that serious debate doesn’t belong in Hell and knowing that the thread in Hell was brought for the purpose of ranting, not debate.
  
  
  
• NicoleMR Shipmate

  5:26PM

  Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much debate on that thread, it seems a pretty classic hell thread, people in agreement about the awfulness of a situation.
  
• ChastMastr Shipmate

  7:22PM

  Ah, well. I’ve made my thoughts about Epiphanies clear on other Styx threads. It is what it is. I don’t have a desperate desire to start a Purgatory thread on the morality and/or lack thereof and/or a mixture of the two of capital punishment myself…